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Ranter posted:lol the state just blatantly giving finance capital a handout right before our eyes thats right
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Ranter posted:lol the state just blatantly giving finance capital a handout right before our eyes gavin is governor
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So what are the odds of Miller v. Bonta is going overturn the assault weapons ban?
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side_burned posted:So what are the odds of Miller v. Bonta is going overturn the assault weapons ban? If you're asking if it will overturn the ban after it all shakes out with the appeals, En Banc and/or Supreme Court, etc? Hard to say, but likely unless there's some major changes at the Supreme Court level... I think it's a game of time and Supreme Court composition, at least based on the actions of the state and 9th circuit judges. At the very least some of these cases (particularly Young v. Hawaii) shouldn't have been sent back to District court imo; they had enough facts/evidence to write a new opinion while following instructions from Bruen (But hey, I'm not a lawyer). So, it would seem that many of the 9th circuit appeals court would rather delay as much as possible. Send the cases back down to District so that the cases have to go through the whole process again; let the District courts figure it out. The state has been doing much of the same, demanding a year of discovery for doing research in each case (Benitez was having none of this in the cases he's hearing; other judges have been granting it). Then whenever it makes its way back through the appeals and in front of the Supreme Court, in another 3 to 4 years, perhaps the composition is different. Either way this is an issue that the 9th circuit would rather not finalize at this moment. Attempting to set aside my personal feelings about Assault Weapons (as defined), I think the ban likely runs afoul of both Heller and Bruen, at least in part. But also further in-depth discussion of this is generally outside the purview of this thread. But I hope this might answer your question some.
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Yeah I think what I was asking is after the all the appeals and the case inevitably makes its way up to the SCOUTS, with its current composition, if that ban will then be stuck down and I think you summed up something for me by posting that "it's a game of time and Supreme Court composition."
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Dec 19, 2022 06:03
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Earthquake in NorCal.
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detailed oakland mayoral election info is out, featuring not really any surprises: https://twitter.com/hyphy_republic/status/1605261822088556544 homeowners in the hills preferred the landlord candidate, and the tough on crime non-spoiler candidate only did well in his former district and the areas with really high crime but in less boring news, gavbot was definitely a fucker for blocking expansion of RCV: https://twitter.com/seandugar/status/1604213969597538304
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Dec 20, 2022 21:47
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pretty drat big EQ and the news said there might be a bigger one next week? science is amazing... hope all is well
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VSOKUL girl posted:but in less boring news, gavbot was definitely a fucker for blocking expansion of RCV
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Sivart13 posted:I didn't know (or remember) about that, what a fucker. it was a while back, in the before times https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Gavin-Newsom-vetoes-bill-to-allow-ranked-choice-14535193.php quote:More than 17 years after San Francisco approved ranked-choice voting over the objections of then-Supervisor Gavin Newsom, California’s first-year governor got a chance for some payback, vetoing a bill that would have allowed more cities, counties and school districts across the state to switch to the voting system. or, rather, "why would i strike such a blow against the machine politics that successfully landed me here and that i continue to exert influence over, pff"
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quote:and that the promise that ranked-choice voting leads to greater democracy is not necessarily fulfilled.” He's right
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VSOKUL girl posted:it was a while back, in the before times https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Gavin-Newsom-vetoes-bill-to-allow-ranked-choice-14535193.php Should’ve put it on the docket on a governor’s way out.
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just because slapping Gavin newsom upside the head a few times won't lead to greater democratic control doesn't mean i don't want to do that, too
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Larry Parrish posted:just because slapping Gavin newsom upside the head a few times won't lead to greater democratic control doesn't mean i don't want to do that, too This is the sort of bipartisan sentiment we can all get behind. 
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Hey all, who do you think would be the least bad viable option for Governor after Newsom terms out in 2026?
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Bodhidharma posted:Hey all, who do you think would be the least bad viable option for Governor after Newsom terms out in 2026? I guess it depends on how much you're weighting "least bad" versus "viable". Eric Garcetti?
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I heard an exciting young man making waves right now is this guy named "Jerry Brown"
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Muir posted:I guess it depends on how much you're weighting "least bad" versus "viable". Yeah, thanks for wanting to get more clarification. I'm putting more weight into the "least bad" criteria in the question, but I don't think it would be productive to bring up names of people who would have no realistic shot at getting the job. I would personally consider a "viable" candidate as anyone who has elected title giving them enough name recognition to run, or even a non-elected official with enough resources or a movement behind them. For example, the goon who ran for Governor during the recall last year and received less than half percent of the vote was never actually going to win that election.
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Ro Khanna’s been a lot better than I thought he’d be. His statewide recognition is probably low but he’s got resources.
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His Eminence Governor Wiener
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I dunno how you track viable but I'm pretty sure anyone I would be inclined to want to vote for doesn't have a chance in hell of winning.
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been hearing a lot about kevin de leon in the news.... hmmm.. maybe ??? =D
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Smythe posted:been hearing a lot about kevin de leon in the news.... hmmm.. maybe ??? =D
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Smythe posted:been hearing a lot about kevin de leon in the news.... hmmm.. maybe ??? =D honestly he has my vote simply for the chaos energy
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Shahid Buttar.
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Davis the Gray will die and return as White Davis
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Kenning posted:Shahid Buttar. Nah he'd have to actually campaign at the state governor level, that would be work, so not happening.
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Probs Karen Bass. What's Nury Martinez up to lately? 
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I want Governor of California Kamala Harris. She needs an intervention. She needs to come home.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I want Governor of California Kamala Harris. She needs an intervention. She needs to come home. she needs to come and be entombed within the mariana trench
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Larry Parrish posted:honestly he has my vote simply for the chaos energy Sure he's down with racism and all, but the chaos! That's pretty gross. Not only that, you're also wrong on top of everything. De Leon was terrible when he ran against Feinstein.
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DeadlyMuffin posted:Sure he's down with racism and all, but the chaos! you're misunderstanding me. all potential candidates are scumbags i would rather not vote for, so it's funny to think about the funniest possible candidate and not actual candidates that nobody who isn't a property owner or blue shield investor will care about
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DeadlyMuffin posted:Sure he's down with racism and all, but the chaos! They all work in support of white supremacy, OP.
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Ranter posted:They all work in support of white supremacy, OP. Funny enough, white supremacy wasn’t the racism De Leon was down with.
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DeadlyMuffin posted:Funny enough, white supremacy wasn’t the racism De Leon was down with. You reckon?
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Ranter posted:You reckon? I do. I’d call a group of Latino politicians saying racist poo poo about black people or other Latino groups racist, but I wouldn’t call them white supremacist. Maybe it’s a distinction without a difference since it’s hosed up either way. 
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DeadlyMuffin posted:I do. I’d call a group of Latino politicians saying racist poo poo about black people or other Latino groups racist, but I wouldn’t call them white supremacist. I didn't say all of them are white supremacists, I said they all work in support of it. I also didn't say knowingly in support of. De Leon/Latinos fighting against black people is absolutely in aid of white supremacy. You dig?
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Ranter posted:I didn't say all of them are white supremacists, I said they all work in support of it. I also didn't say knowingly in support of. De Leon/Latinos fighting against black people is absolutely in aid of white supremacy. You dig? I said white supremacy wasn’t the racism De Leon was down with. That doesn’t contradict anything you said here…
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