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Guavanaut posted:I can definitely believe she used to attend racist jazz night with the sex offender party and read the spiked online precursor that got sued into the ground for genocide denial. I've seen bits about this but only ITT. I've missed a lot of SWP history here. Is there a 101? Katte tax Best Xmas advert ever https://metro.co.uk/video/amazing-temptations-christmas-advert-1354589/?ito=vjs-link
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I've seen bits about this but only ITT. I've missed a lot of SWP history here. Is there a 101? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(UK)#Internal_crisis_in_2013%E2%80%932014_over_allegations_of_rape Basically though a Central Committee member used democratic centralism to try cover up their rape of a young Comrade. Unfortunately this sort of thing is far from unknown in Trot circles, because dem centralism really seems to encourage acting like a cult, where any actual left wing aims get subsumed in protecting the party at all costs, even when the party is as totally irrelevant as the SWP
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forkboy84 posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(UK)#Internal_crisis_in_2013%E2%80%932014_over_allegations_of_rape Thanks. Sadly, I don't think the SWP were alone in covering up rape etc, it seems to me that only in the last couple of years have political parties (and other organisations) started to take allegations of sexual misconduct seriously, being far more interested in covering up. I know when I worked in the NHS over 25 years ago now for all the fancy big fat harassment policies, if any genuine harassment ever went on, it was dismissed as 'personality clash' and pushed under the carpet. I note though that these SWP allegations are more recent than that so climate should have changed. There was definitely a hot bed of sexual activity (mostly consensual as far as I know) amongst the left back in the 70s/80s (left wing of labour & militant I was most familiar with though never an actual member of militant) and young women would be somewhat in thrall to local 'leaders' (not necessarily actual 'leaders' as in MPs or whatever but the sort of person who others tend to follow in groups.) and I daresay they took advantage of their leadership to harass or even rape young women. Back then though, women were reluctant to report rape if they had had a drop to drink or were wearing a skirt that was too short lest they be either totally disbelieved or deemed to have shown 'contributory negligence' - certainly court cases came out with judgements like that back then. I definitely got into situations in my 20s after a few too many that I wouldn't have dreamed of reporting but which I probably would have no hesitation in doing so now even if I was a few sheets to the wind. Surprised to see one of the listed prominent members (NOT mentioned as part of the rape allegations) was, I think, in my year at uni (in the East End) though I can't find any reference to where he did his degree certainly got the same name, and he was in the SWSS, but trying to figure out if the photos of the someone old geezer on display on google is the same as the reasonably good looking 19/20 year old from back then! We didn't like him because the SWSS would always come and stick their wretched posters over our Science Fiction & Fantasy Society posters. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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forkboy84 posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(UK)#Internal_crisis_in_2013%E2%80%932014_over_allegations_of_rape I gather noted internet sensation Caleb Maupin and his Youtube Beef Is Praxis Party have also imploded due to being a sex cult. History repeats. Also another fun example of extremely right wing weirdos dressing up as communists.
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Re: woperchild Have you fools not noticed the first three letters together? My Italian friend is sobbing on the floor right now  In  chat, family member A has repeatedly bought family members B and C a Fortnum & Mason hamper for Xmas despite them politely requesting they don't as, despite being very kind, it's a lot of money and C shouldn't be eating a lot of the stuff because of health reasons.I looked up this year's and it's a hundred and loving ten quid for 6 tiny little tins/jars of stupid poo poo like biscuits and "fancy" tea. I think B and C could build a shed out of all the wasteful wicker baskets they've collected at this point. As a stupid experiment I put together (looking up, not buying) the closest equivalents from ALDI and the total came to £13.41 (with several of the items being well over double the weight). Maybe the F&M stuff is incredibly superior (I highly doubt it) but how excellent can a jar of jam get? The difference in price could probably prevent a handful of people dying of cold this winter. The old phrase "more money than sense" springs to mind...
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Only Kindness posted:Never mind her, ghastly as she is, what sort of editor lets that fuckin' poo poo through? Someone must have signed-off on it. Haven't you heard? Katherine Birbalsingh doesn't need an editor. She's a Headteacher, and a maverick.
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franco posted:In Return it or sell it online.
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Rust Martialis posted:Return it or sell it online. Sadly it's very difficult to get refunds on family members, and selling them online might lead to other complications
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Bury your unwanted gifts in your apartment or garden, as a treat for the next tenants.
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Ever since moving to Manchester I've been astonished at how much funding the SWP have. Every other week the city centre is plastered with posters about the latest talk they're giving. I've heard they're funded by some rich Trot but don't know a huge amount about it
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As a friend in the IWW once said, next time you go for a poo poo loudly announce "I'm going toilet in the name of the working class and real anti-racist action" and someone from the SWP will show up, claim they thought of the idea, and give you a paper.
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Power just went out. Thanks, Brexit.
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sebzilla posted:Power just went out. Thanks, Brexit. I've started mumbling "gently caress the tories" to the tune of "rock the casbah" around the house this morning
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Sir Kieth don't like it.
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Guavanaut posted:As a friend in the IWW once said, next time you go for a poo poo loudly announce "I'm going toilet in the name of the working class and real anti-racist action" and someone from the SWP will show up, claim they thought of the idea, and give you a paper. 
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Guavanaut posted:Sir Kieth don't like it. But he does like it.
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franco posted:Fortnums stuff I ended up with one of those a few years back from the work Xmas raffle, it's nothing special. Don't even think we found a use for a couple of things in it. Sure hoitey-toitey types think they're purchasing something special.
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Goldskull posted:I ended up with one of those a few years back from the work Xmas raffle, it's nothing special. Don't even think we found a use for a couple of things in it. Sure hoitey-toitey types think they're purchasing something special. My wealthy brother, Tory Boy, sends these hampers (not necessarily Fortnums) to my mum so we crowd round like vultures picking all the things she can't eat. I think they're 'the present of last resort' - he's not great at remembering birthdays etc, and (like many of us) is completely stumped at choosing presents for people especially us oldsters who really do not want anymore STUFF and some people for some reason find the whole idea of handing over portraits of Her Majesty with numbers on which can be exchanged for goods of our choice (or need!) distasteful. Not me, I'm extremely keen on numbered Queen portraits.
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I've been on a prescription for fludrocortisone for a few years and when I first started it was pills that had to be stored in the fridge, but in 2016 they got changed to regular pills that you can put in a cupboard or whatever. When I went to get my prescription today however I got given a bottle of pills that were marked as needing to be stored in the fridge. I don't know if this means there's a shortage of regular ones and some ancient stockpile is being dipped into or they've had to go back to manufacturing the old kind for some other reason, but it's vaguely disconcerting.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:My wealthy brother, Tory Boy, sends these hampers (not necessarily Fortnums) to my mum so we crowd round like vultures picking all the things she can't eat. Makes great dartboards I bet.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:My wealthy brother, Tory Boy, sends these hampers (not necessarily Fortnums) to my mum so we crowd round like vultures picking all the things she can't eat. What about numbered King portraits? 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:My wealthy brother, Tory Boy, sends these hampers (not necessarily Fortnums) to my mum so we crowd round like vultures picking all the things she can't eat. I don't know why but my family members have never had any problems just sending me a cheque. This is good. I might get a couple of small things, like the ever-useful socks (though that's gotten less common since my gran died I still don't think I've ever actually bought socks for myself, despite now being 38), but it's like Raekwon The Chef says at that start of that one Wu-Tang song: Cash Rules Everything Around Me. I'm trying to imagine my uncle buying me video games or music & uhhhh, yeah, the only way I'd get poo poo I actually want is by requesting it, in which case why not just get the money & buy it myself?
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Rarity posted:What about numbered King portraits? I haven't seen any yet but I'm sure they will have the same appeal 
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forkboy84 posted:I don't know why but my family members have never had any problems just sending me a cheque. This is good. I might get a couple of small things, like the ever-useful socks (though that's gotten less common since my gran died I still don't think I've ever actually bought socks for myself, despite now being 38), but it's like Raekwon The Chef says at that start of that one Wu-Tang song: Cash Rules Everything Around Me. I'm trying to imagine my uncle buying me video games or music & uhhhh, yeah, the only way I'd get poo poo I actually want is by requesting it, in which case why not just get the money & buy it myself? I recall as a teen when we lived abroad mum had to come back to the UK for some reason and asked each of us sprogs what we would like and I said Led Zeppelin 3 (which I had just heard down the youth club.). She said she couldn't find it (it had been out about 3 years at that point) and she'd got me a different album. BB King and other giants of soul totally NOT my thing. Unrelated. Have had to switch to phone as my laptop has started typing Spanish letters despite ENG displaying. The only other keyboard language setting I have is Arabic. So that's bizarre.
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Have they even introduced chuck bucks yet I pretty much never handle cash anymore so I haven’t had any opportunity to see History Comes Inside! fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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History Comes Inside! posted:Have they even introduced chuck bucks yet There was a story this week that they've released the designs for it (it's literally just replacing the Queen with Charlie), going to slowly introduce them and let both run
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First they have to tell me where they're from. No, REALLY from. That's the best way to talk the race problem through!
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My communist grandfather, who worked his entire career for the board of trade, mostly in Eastern Europe, used to send us a hamper from Fortnum and masons every Christmas. This was back in the 70's when they were serious about it as well, I can remember my parents trying to work out how you were supposed to eat a whole potted tongue.
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Guavanaut posted:That sounds like how you get a huge abominable tree of waggling tongues. which you can eat the whole year round. my mum got a F&M hamper off someone and she uses the basket it came in as a towel basket in the bathroom.
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Back in the 90s, the first Christmas at my old company everybody got a £100 bonus. Second Christmas, everyone got a hamper, which while I'm sure the idea was "it's more personal", was far less appreciated. Third Christmas and onwards, nobody got anything.
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Rust Martialis posted:Return it or sell it online. I'm not A, B or C! forkboy84 posted:I still don't think I've ever actually bought socks for myself, despite now being 38) Christ, you've made me realise that I haven't either and I'm loving 47. OwlFancier posted:my mum got a F&M hamper off someone and she uses the basket it came in as a towel basket in the bathroom. Genius. Am going to call B & C and suggest this.
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gender recognition reform bill now passed in Scotland 86 to 39, despite the efforts of serious citizens with serious concerns https://twitter.com/conor_matchett/status/1605939494582198279
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