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pentyne posted:This article sounds like there was some higher level corporate bickering between Warner and Paramount that ended up creating the situation as it did, and likely they split ways and the DS9 showrunners were sort of guided by execs into making a space station based show, no idea when the serialization of the story, a core part of B5, was planned to start. This is factually incorrect. Time Warner and Chris-Craft formed PTEN in 1993. Viacom didn't start making movements to start UPN until after it acquired Paramount in 1994.
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Babylon 5 is off HBOMax 1/25. Finish up your rewatch I guess. I also would assume that this isn't really a vote of confidence in the reboot.
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Clouseau posted:Babylon 5 is off HBOMax 1/25. Finish up your rewatch I guess. Any idea where it's heading? Or is it going back beyond the Streaming Rim?
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No idea. FWIW, JMS had this to say on it: https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1605386153460260864 Which, people in the thread explain why HBOMax has to pay to license a show which I assumed they owned by owning WB but TV licensing is a huge mess so who knows. Anyway, a bunch of us bored pandemic podcasters (like the one quoted above) are probably all gonna see a hit to our downloads oops.
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It's funny timing, I just signed up for a trial period with HBOMax, and watched one additional episode into the rewatch that got blocked by the non-remastered episodes leaving Amazon Prime years back. I'll try and finish this by then, as rough as the 5th season is (and as annoying as the commercials are, there was no deal on the commercial-free subscription).
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It's still on Amazon Prime and I don't see any news that it's going away from there, but I am seeing discussion that they never fixed the issue where a couple episodes have scenes missing.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It's still on Amazon Prime and I don't see any news that it's going away from there, but I am seeing discussion that they never fixed the issue where a couple episodes have scenes missing. Are you outside the US? Here it's not on Amazon Prime. I mean, it's there in the sense that you can use your HBO Max subscription through there, much like you can do with AMC, Shudder, etc.
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Looks like it's still there. https://www.amazon.com/Babylon-5-Season-1/dp/B000I5SYHS  + 
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Sorry, when I said "on Amazon Prime" I meant "included in the Amazon Prime subscription".
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Five seasons of B5 isn't the worst thing you could spend $150 on, but a lot of people just don't have that. If you have a successful podcast, I'd say it's worth it.
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mllaneza posted:Five seasons of B5 isn't the worst thing you could spend $150 on, but a lot of people just don't have that. If you have a successful podcast, I'd say it's worth it. I think the issue is less “podcasters will need to spend 150 bucks.” (Hell, that’s probably cheaper than maintaining the streaming subs, and the financially correct way to go if they’re not really racing through the show) and more that audiences tend to watch along with the podcast and if the audience can’t do that, it may hurt demand to listen to said podcast.
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Clouseau posted:Which, people in the thread explain why HBOMax has to pay to license a show which I assumed they owned by owning WB but TV licensing is a huge mess so who knows.
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Chevy Slyme posted:I think the issue is less “podcasters will need to spend 150 bucks.” (Hell, that’s probably cheaper than maintaining the streaming subs, and the financially correct way to go if they’re not really racing through the show) and more that audiences tend to watch along with the podcast and if the audience can’t do that, it may hurt demand to listen to said podcast. Yup. I already have the show (though the DVDs not the cleaned up versions) but there's been a large crop of watch along podcasts that all popped up with it going on HBOMax and we all will probably see a decrease in listeners (at least in the US, which accounts for a little over half for us). That said this is just a fun side project for us and we're not running ads so it's not really like it will hurt us drastically.
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Put the remasters on blu-ray WB
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Payndz posted:IIRC, the various Star Treks (a franchise owned by Paramount) had to pay to rent studio space at Paramount (also owned by, er, Paramount) because they're in different divisions of the same corporation and that's how their accounting works. I guess there's some clever way they can shuffle any losses to where they're most needed for tax or profit-participation-denial purposes, and the same applies to all the media corporations. Like with JMS's example of "a WB movie set burns down in Namibia and the cost of it is transferred to B5." It makes sense for things that are finite and probably wanted by multiple productions, but then you get stuff like John Birt making BBC programmes have to pay to use the BBC Pronunciation Unit (which was hardly overstretched) and so it withered despite being very popular and highly regarded as smaller budgeted programmes couldn't justify, eg, spending money to get the pronunciation of a polish name said once correct.
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Winifred Madgers posted:Put the remasters on blu-ray WB This would be my ideal, yes. Assuming they are less prone to disc rot than the DVD release.
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I've been rewatching them from when I taped them on my dvr a couple of years ago.  Doesn't have season one and a few episodes of season 2 are missing.
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Payndz posted:IIRC, the various Star Treks (a franchise owned by Paramount) had to pay to rent studio space at Paramount (also owned by, er, Paramount) because they're in different divisions of the same corporation and that's how their accounting works. I guess there's some clever way they can shuffle any losses to where they're most needed for tax or profit-participation-denial purposes, and the same applies to all the media corporations. Like with JMS's example of "a WB movie set burns down in Namibia and the cost of it is transferred to B5." The whole Trek franchise is under Paramount Television for historical reasons - it was originally an NBC show produced by Desilu, who was bought by Gulf and Western. Gulf and Western also bought Paramount Pictures so they renamed Desilu to Paramount Television. Paramount Pictures tried to launch a TV network, using a new Trek show by Paramount Television as its centerpiece (huh, sounds familiar). That fell through and became Paramount Pictures’ TMP, with all the money poured down the drain of the new Trek show by Paramount Television counting against its budget. A few mergers later, the original Paramount Television is CBS Studios and owns Trek, the current Paramount Television is a completely new entity that owns nothing, and they’re both owned by Paramount Global, which used to be Viacom. Got it?
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Luigi Thirty posted:The whole Trek franchise is under Paramount Television for historical reasons - it was originally an NBC show produced by Desilu, who was bought by Gulf and Western. Gulf and Western also bought Paramount Pictures so they renamed Desilu to Paramount Television. Where does UPN fit into this?
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Ganguro King posted:Where does UPN fit into this? Fox’s success meant everyone wanted to start a fifth network. The problem was most independent stations were now Fox affiliates. Paramount bought up a chain of independent stations and found themselves with a lot of successful syndicated shows in the early ‘90s. PTEN was WB Domestic Television and Chris-Craft. It started broadcasting in January ‘93, two nights a week. In September ‘93, Chris-Craft announced they were forming a network with Paramount and pulled their stations out of PTEN. UPN began with Voyager in ‘95 as its flagship show. A week later, WB as a whole announced they were going to form a network with Tribune’s stations at the core. (That killed PTEN.) Both Paramount and WB immediately realized they were hosed and spent a decade trying to get Chris-Craft to gently caress off so they could merge the two networks into the CW. MyTV is all the Fox-owned UPN stations that didn’t get picked up by the CW as affiliates. Basically, Absurd Alhazred posted:THE ARISTOCRATS Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Dec 27, 2022 |
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hi long time listener first time poster new(ish) to b5 and as a professional musician it is my expert opinion that the s3 credits music is the best and its not even close no i will not be taking any questions
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sinnesloeschen posted:hi long time listener first time poster I don't think you're going to find many contrary opinions on that score here.
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I'm almost done with my most recent rewatch which stalled for years on Season 5 when the show left Amazon Prime. Pretty emotional, the last few episodes.
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sinnesloeschen posted:hi long time listener first time poster IT FAILED (boom boom BWARRRRR boom boom BWARRRRR)
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sebmojo posted:IT FAILED
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sebmojo posted:IT FAILED i mean seriously my favorite part is when bill mumy's poo poo comes up in the opening credits; i feel like thats either a real low synth or those crazy bastards in the sinfonia had a fuckin octobass (which owns, u should check then out) also, most tragic character: londo or lennier ooh dark horse pick: MEESTAIRE morden sinnesloeschen fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Dec 30, 2022 |
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sinnesloeschen posted:also, most tragic character: londo or lennier Al Bester
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sinnesloeschen posted:also, most tragic character: londo or lennier Londo, hands down.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Al Bester oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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CainFortea posted:Londo, hands down. idk man for all his moaning about NO CHOICE my man had a lot of agency imo
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sinnesloeschen posted:i mean seriously i mean ctfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9EbGd1AlMg
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Al Bester I can see that. Doomed from the start by being raised to be space racist all the way through, so that he can't even conceive of anything outside of it. Profoundly incapable of true empathy. Morden, for what it's worth, did have some kind of choice. It was a choice between service or death (or a fate worse than death), but he chose, and it seemed like he tried his best to enjoy himself while he did what he did.
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Sleeping in Light always makes me weepy. Especially with how many of the actors are no longer around.
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sinnesloeschen posted:i mean seriously Londo is greek tragedy. Lennier is Shakespearean.
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sinnesloeschen posted:idk man for all his moaning about NO CHOICE my man had a lot of agency imo That's where the tragedy comes from. Tragic characters don't only mean "Good people that bad poo poo happens to", a tragic play or character is one where great events that are terrible happen in/to them. The tragedy isn't what happens to Londo, it's that he makes those choices that causes all those terrible things to happen. He could have stopped. In fact in the early times when Morden got him the eye he suspected a rat. But he chose that path to follow later anyway.
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Chevy Slyme posted:Londo is greek tragedy. oh drat this is perfect CainFortea posted:But he chose that path to follow later anyway. 
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