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ah yes i have read the "china is a failed state if they can't be first in everything technologically" book also the western telecom makers also thought china will never surpass them before the mid 2000s too
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Dec 22, 2022 12:05
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Regarde Aduck posted:That whole misunderstanding of technological process as entirely linear so someone behind can never catchup makes sense if you're giant chauvinists that think the Chinese are just inherently worse at tech research like, even the Whig view of history in the Civilization series understood that a couple of things would happen: 1. as soon as one nation discovered a tech, it would be easier for everyone else to learn it 2. as soon as one nation discovered a tech, they may very well deliberately spread it to all other nations anyway (because of #1), using their first-to-discover advantage to shop around and sell the tech to everyone else for as much other stuff as they can deal for 3. the amount of technical knowhow that's output by a nation can vary from nation-to-nation, and that nations can reorient themselves to produce more or less "Science", such that it's possible to target surges in technical knowhow if one wanted to do so
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Dec 22, 2022 12:14
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Sid Meier's Dialectical Materialism
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Dec 22, 2022 13:33
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ASML have a monopoly on high end machines but not on the mid-tier machine. All those Japanese camera company Nikon Canon used to dominated the sector. It's more economical for China absorb the mid tier technology first. Canon just announced a lithography joined venture in China. I may have mentioned this before, semiconductor sanctions are the only US sanctions China almost never respond. Unlike the Xinjiang and particularly EU human right sanctions, Beijing usually countersanction immediately. My theory is that China is are working with a lot of non China companies on the down low and they don't want to bring any US DoC microscope into this area. It's easier to talk to a Taiwanese/Korean on the down low and get his trade craft at a negotiate price secretly than with an American secretly. Let's put it this way, the actual human beings who have labored in these mega semiconductor factories have their own ambitious royalty.
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Dec 22, 2022 13:35
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unwantedplatypus posted:Sid Meier's Dialectical Materialism drat straight
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Dec 22, 2022 13:48
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gonna take a wild guess and say this person probably thinks antisino paranoia is perfectly sane and sensible despite being motivated by literally nothing
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Dec 22, 2022 14:22
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Some Guy TT posted:gonna take a wild guess and say this person probably thinks antisino paranoia is perfectly sane and sensible despite being motivated by literally nothing quote:It is interesting to note that tiktok is a Chinese owned company and which has already been banned in Europe and in some US states for being used to manipulate public opinion. And at the very least TikTok is being used like any other social media companies to gather information about it's users, interests, opinions, etc. and monitize those for profit. It isn't very different from political persuasion. actually there is no conspiracy to foster hate towards China because there are apparently lots of reasons to legitimately hate China
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Dec 22, 2022 14:31
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Are white people being taught to hate themselves?????
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Dec 22, 2022 15:27
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it's called critical race theory!!!
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Dec 22, 2022 15:33
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:Are white people being taught to hate themselves????? no, but they should
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Dec 22, 2022 15:36
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nobody taught me to hate myself, buddy
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Dec 22, 2022 15:42
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if anyone feels like posting a lot about the non-CPC parties in China (or a link to a decent English language source) I'd be appreciative. someone did a pretty broad survey post a while ago and there was a long twitter thread from like 2019 that got linked before and I think about those a lot. but it's hard to find good English sources about it
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Dec 22, 2022 15:55
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gradenko_2000 posted:like, even the Whig view of history in the Civilization series understood that a couple of things would happen: Yup, checks out. Those are some of the necessary conditions to beat civ 4 on deity difficulty and standard settings reliably unless you've dedicated thousands upon thousands of hours to perfect your play.
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Dec 22, 2022 17:48
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Well that and rapid initial expansion followed by expansion pursued by belligerent means, not surprisingly.
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Dec 22, 2022 17:59
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Lol at these insane people https://twitter.com/L1011D/status/1605390546285236225?s=19
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Dec 22, 2022 18:07
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he’s right. chinese people didn’t even have cars before communism
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Dec 22, 2022 18:09
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fart simpson posted:he’s right. chinese people didn’t even have cars before communism a bad thing follows a communist revolution? no poo poo sherlokov!
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Dec 22, 2022 18:15
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Lol at these insane people Lmao
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Dec 22, 2022 18:17
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5000 years of not running over people with cars RUINED by the communists
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Dec 22, 2022 18:22
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this is Short Round erasure
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Dec 22, 2022 18:30
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fart simpson posted:he’s right. chinese people didn’t even have cars before communism lol
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Dec 22, 2022 20:26
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fart simpson posted:he’s right. chinese people didn’t even have cars before communism 
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Dec 22, 2022 20:32
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China's already got great, world leading brands in a lot of tech. https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-drones Best drones - DJI is chinese and they're half this list. The american company Freefly is their competitor at the professional level but DJI probably sells more units than them at that level too. The thing about Samsung, Sony and TSMC is that they were government sanctioned monopolies that the USA, either government or investors, supported in taking over global markets whereas chinese tech is mostly normal private business and the USA will be at odds with it forever They way american consumers think 'oh sony/toyota/samsung/LG - that's a good brand' ... it's not going to be so easy for a chinese brand to reach that level. Huawei was getting there, DJI, Alibaba and tiktok
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Dec 22, 2022 20:35
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Samsung/LG are trash.
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Dec 22, 2022 20:51
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:Samsung/LG are trash. That supports their point, marketing alone can convince people that garbage is gold
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Dec 22, 2022 20:55
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkGdHPv5BSw
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Dec 22, 2022 20:59
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:Samsung/LG are trash. my new LG oled is nice but WebOS sucks rear end, had to get a Roku
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Dec 22, 2022 21:02
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LG makes good oled TVs now, I think every TV is an ad delivery device but the screen itself is nice korean appliances in the USA are a big mistake tho. my understanding is that neither LG or samsung are easily repaired and if you buy with like bestbuy's insurance thing they just replace the whole unit.
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Dec 22, 2022 21:05
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should kept lucky goldstar
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Dec 22, 2022 21:06
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My loving LG OLED TV is the most expensive dumbass consumer electronic product I have purchased in my life and is also the first, second and third television I've owned in my life to crap out on me. I can't even bother to get the vertical banding on the last replacement fixed Piece of poo poo Kim Jong Un please do the needful
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Dec 22, 2022 21:30
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I have an LG washer and it's been good for about seven years now with no problems. my anecdotal evidence proves that it's good
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Dec 22, 2022 21:36
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Our apartment building has a Maytag dryer with a coin slot that gets jammed. Not sure if this is Samsung's fault specifically but I think it speaks towards the attitude the Chinese government has towards lower class Americans
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Dec 22, 2022 21:44
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:Are white people being taught to hate themselves????? they're called báizuǒ, op
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Dec 22, 2022 21:48
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the house i live in has a samsung fridge where the ice dispenser immediately froze over on day 1 because of a stupid loving design and has literally never worked. i use cube trays now, ussr used a pencil etc i went through two LG phones in a row that boot-looped on updates and will never buy one again. i replaced those with a samsung galaxy 8 that is now five years old and still perfectly fine. land of contrasts
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Dec 22, 2022 22:20
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the chaebols seem to have near zero correlation in how good the products of different subsidiaries are but everyone just lets the top level name influence 80% of their evaluation of the products. oh well
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Dec 22, 2022 22:21
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https://twitter.com/Mango_Press_/status/1605980640192581633
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Dec 23, 2022 00:03
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i say swears online posted:i went through two LG phones in a row that boot-looped on updates and will never buy one again. i replaced those with a samsung galaxy 8 that is now five years old and still perfectly fine. land of contrasts Good news, LG exited the smartphone business last year.
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Dec 23, 2022 01:31
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GoLambo posted:lmfao how could you have not seen this coming? My conspiracy brain says they were just trying to leverage China into getting COVID
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Dec 23, 2022 01:40
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I don't know why we are talking about Samsung now. I got a few Samsung phones and 2 fridges and 4 Monitor/TV. One TV went bust but Samsung is cheap so I kept buying. Panasonic is more reliable. My Panasonic plasma TV lasts forever. That's probably why they are no longer in the TV business.
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Dec 23, 2022 01:41
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ikanreed posted:My conspiracy brain says they were just trying to leverage China into getting COVID Lol at the idea that we could leverage China into doing anything
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Dec 23, 2022 01:49
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