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If you don’t need a bigger fancier car get the one that is $20k cheaper. Like, easy, lol.
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Yeah, I'm starting to realize that. I've been driving a 2010 A4 for the past decade or so. So anything is a big upgrade over that. My wife prefers bigger cars, but we already have a Subaru Forester as our big car and are thinking of going all-in on replacing it with a mini van in a few years anyway.
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priznat posted:So tesla is offering credit on purchases taking delivery in december ($7500 in US, $5k in canada) and I'm shocked that they actually have a ton of inventory of Ys and 3s in the BC, Canada area. I think it's just a Tesla thing. They've been having to slash prices in China, too, while manufacturers like Ford are raising prices on the Lightning and dealerships are still scalping vehicles like the Ioniq 5.
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Isn’t it to get people to buy right now because if they wait until next year the tesla will requalify for some federal tax rebates? If that’s the case not only does it not signify anything for any other automaker it also likely won’t last long for teslas.
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I guess it depends on the reason they are sitting on so many right now. The deal only applies if you buy and get delivered before the end of the month. Did they massively ramp up production? Did people cancel knowing they can get a tax credit starting next year? Did they cancel because of musk? I honestly don’t know. It’s funnier to think that there were repercussions to musk being an alt right weirdo, but this is hell world so probably not.
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There's probably also an impact from companies like Carmax buying up a shitload of Teslas at a premium and then having to mark them way down to get them to move after the market calmed down. I saw in one case the trade-in estimate for a Model 3 had literally halved between earlier in the year and now.
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I'm pretty sure tesla is eligible for the new tax rebate starting January 1. They are assembled in the US, so they meet that part, and the battery regulations aren't in place, so they can ignore that part. The number sold limit that is preventing Tesla from being eligible gets rolled back January 1 and then both Chevy and Tesla become eligible for a $7,500 tax credit. Doesn't that mean everyone should wait until the new year to buy one?
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Hutzpah posted:I'm pretty sure tesla is eligible for the new tax rebate starting January 1. They are assembled in the US, so they meet that part, and the battery regulations aren't in place, so they can ignore that part. The number sold limit that is preventing Tesla from being eligible gets rolled back January 1 and then both Chevy and Tesla become eligible for a $7,500 tax credit. Doesn't that mean everyone should wait until the new year to buy one? Tesla is preemptively giving a $7500 discount if you take delivery right now, so it won’t make a difference if you were to buy a Tesla right now versus the new year. They made it so that there was no reason to wait about 2 weeks ago by offering the $3750 discount(the expected tax credit then)plus 10,000 free supercharger and they are still having too much inventory compared to absolutely no inventory a month ago.
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Are you saying Tesla is eating those $7500 at the moment?
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They've always been very honest that there is a ton of margin built into their price.
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Yes. For anyone that buys one and takes delivery by the end of the month. They were eating $3750 until yesterday when it was upped to $7500.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:This seems awfully authoritative for a dude who is bench racing the cars I mean, I’ve test-driven both. I can’t speak to long term reliability, or what ownership would look like weeks/months/years in, but the cars felt very different to me in person.
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I feel there's a few factors working against Tesla at the moment, matching the pending tax credit fixes one of them, there's still the unknown effect of Musk's public idiocy (sorry for Muskchat), but also they have removed a couple features on the cars recently (radar a few months ago, and more recently the ultrasonics). There's also rumors of some sort of refresh happening in January, so a bit of an Osborne effect happening as well.
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borkencode posted:I feel there's a few factors working against Tesla at the moment, matching the pending tax credit fixes one of them, there's still the unknown effect of Musk's public idiocy (sorry for Muskchat), but also they have removed a couple features on the cars recently (radar a few months ago, and more recently the ultrasonics). There's also rumors of some sort of refresh happening in January, so a bit of an Osborne effect happening as well. whatever the reason, resale on Model 3s has dropped almost $20k in my area
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Huh, there's quite a few 2019/2020 Model 3s I can get for sub 30k and a couple of 2018s sub 25k. That's starting to approach Bolt/Leaf prices.
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Kirios posted:Huh, there's quite a few 2019/2020 Model 3s I can get for sub 30k and a couple of 2018s sub 25k. That seems like about what a standard range plus should go for given they’re ~45k new. Your market seems a lot more rational than where I’m at though, Carmax here wants 45k for a 2019 Standard Range Plus with 18k miles. 59k for a 2020 MYLR.
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I'm about to order a Bolt EV. Is adaptive cruise control worth it? Does it require a subscription or is it a one-time cost? Also, does anyone see a problem ordering from a dealership 40 miles away? They've been more responsive and always have some in stock, unlike the Chevy dealer 10 miles away.
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Harveygod posted:I'm about to order a Bolt EV. Is adaptive cruise control worth it? Does it require a subscription or is it a one-time cost? I don’t know No. Order the car from the dealership that has stock and gives you good service. 40 miles isn’t that bad, and worst case you can get the car serviced at other Chevy dealerships
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Harveygod posted:I'm about to order a Bolt EV. Is adaptive cruise control worth it? Does it require a subscription or is it a one-time cost? I decided to go for adaptive cruise even though I mostly commute on city streets. I’m glad I did because I did a road trip from San Francisco to LA and back and boy howdy it makes a huge difference on long highway journeys. I went for the 2LT with adaptive cruise and the media package and I couldnt be happier. No subscription on adaptive cruise.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:I decided to go for adaptive cruise even though I mostly commute on city streets. I’m glad I did because I did a road trip from San Francisco to LA and back and boy howdy it makes a huge difference on long highway journeys. I went for the 2LT with adaptive cruise and the media package and I couldnt be happier. No subscription on adaptive cruise. Congrats!! Which color did you pick? Edit: whoops, got posters confused. Harveygod, congrats! Which color are you going to pick? I also agree adaptive cruise is great if you’re going to spend time in traffic regularly. Aino Minako fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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Harveygod posted:I'm about to order a Bolt EV. Is adaptive cruise control worth it? Does it require a subscription or is it a one-time cost? I haven’t used the Bolt adaptive cruise specifically but in general I would say that yes, it’s absolutely worth it, especially since it’s just a $375 package on the Bolt and doesn’t require you to buy a lot of other stuff you may not care about.
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The light blue metallic (I forget the official name of it) Immediate add-ons I got were the Maxpider 3D floor mats front and back.
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Thanks for the responses. I'll get it with the adaptive cruise control from 40-Mile-Away-Motors™.Aino Minako posted:
I'm stuck between "Ggay ghost" or the "bright blue". I kind of like the look of the blue better (reminds me of my old 2002 Focus) but I also feel like it stands out a bit. I kind of like blending in with cars. I don't know, it's weird.
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Harveygod posted:"Ggay ghost" lol
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Definitely go with Gay Ghost Adaptive Cruise Control is always worth it. I will never go without it again.
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Also got these window deflectors- I like opening the window during the rain sometimes. https://www.carid.com/wellvisors/tape-on-smoke-front-and-rear-side-window-deflectors-mpn-3-847ch027.html And because I drive my father around a few times a week along with his dog I got this rear seat cover so the dog doesn't get the seat dirty. It's nice that it doesn't block the rear armrest. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SX2NGYZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Home EVSE I got is the Emproium- I had it hard wired and its a nice user interface on the app. It made it easy to program to charge at off peak hours
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I wasn't fixing it after I posted. I also read it in Scooby-Doo's cowardly voice. Here's what I'm probably looking at: 
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I do really want to like that blue. It’s just not for me after seeing it in person.
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The only downside of adaptive cruise control is once you have it you can never own another car without it again.
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Bandire posted:The only downside of adaptive cruise control is once you have it you can never own another car without it again. Being that this is the first time I've had it (my last car was a 2010 Prius that got totaled) I completely agree with this.
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Harveygod posted:EV Thread Mk 3: I'm stuck between "Ggay ghost" or the "bright blue" Harveygod posted:EV Thread Mk 3: Ggay ghost
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Harveygod posted:I also read it in Scooby-Doo's cowardly voice. This is exactly how I read it.
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ggay ghost?! ruh roh
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Bandire posted:The only downside of adaptive cruise control is once you have it you can never own another car without it again. This is true which is why I ordered a bolt with it a few weeks ago. Still no idea when the order will be filled.
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Clipped a drat deer in my Volt a couple hours ago.  Bumper cover not damaged, fender scuffed up, and just ever so slightly bent under the light a bit.. could likely push it back out and buff it off. Looks like used headlights go for around $250 or so shipped. Likely wont even make a claim, should be able to fix this myself. Edit: With Video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6wSu4_ciuc stevewm fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Dealer allocation is bullcrap I think. Most of the ones I want are the cheap trim level around me, and the place I want to order from is like 10 orders deep with no allocation edit: I found out a state several states away has the exact one I want, I'll ask the dealership if they're willing to do a dealer trade, at least to talk about it and see what that costs. GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I haven’t used the Bolt adaptive cruise specifically but in general I would say that yes, it’s absolutely worth it, especially since it’s just a $375 package on the Bolt and doesn’t require you to buy a lot of other stuff you may not care about. The adaptive cruise on the Bolt is very very good, selectable following distance, nice smooth slowing down and speeding up, much better than the couple 2018-2020 cars I've rented that had it. GATOS Y VATOS posted:I went for the 2LT with adaptive cruise and the media package and I couldnt be happier. No subscription on adaptive cruise. I have the same option package, it's pretty killer, everything I wanted, nothing I didn't. I'll get to drive it more than twice a month some day. 
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Apparently none of the places that I'm looking at have Ev's or are willing to do dealer swaps so I'm going to have to go out of state
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Any good minivan EVs out there?
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sullat posted:Any good minivan EVs out there? The Chrysler Pacifica is available as a plug-in hybrid. The Kia Carnival is rumored to get plug-in hybrid and BEV trims in the next couple years, which would be awesome. There’s also the Model X, which is nice and useful in many ways, but expensive, weird doors, and it comes with the mark of the beast.
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