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BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

I try to avoid Samsung because they're evil.

Last time I mentioned it (though, in the gpu thread so my bad) just in passing I got hit with a wave of "umm, but all companies are bad braindance!" Like people were taking personal offense to me trying to avoid that brand when I can. Which true, but gently caress man just let me avoid a brand that I have a strong personal aversion to. I know I won't be avoiding every tech they make but I do what I can.

I don't even know who makes good tvs now though I got on the projector train and there's no going back. Feels like nearly all the disadvantages of a projector are just things that were relevant 5 years ago but are totally not an issue anymore.

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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


Reality and history has an anti-American bias

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

BrainDance posted:

Last time I mentioned it (though, in the gpu thread so my bad) just in passing I got hit with a wave of "umm, but all companies are bad braindance!" Like people were taking personal offense to me trying to avoid that brand when I can. Which true, but gently caress man just let me avoid a brand that I have a strong personal aversion to. I know I won't be avoiding every tech they make but I do what I can.

No you're right. The point of "no ethical consumption under capitalism" is that any rejection of a particular capitalist is valid even if it means shifting over to a different capitalist anyway

It's not supposed to mean "they're all unethical, it doesn't matter"

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

BrainDance posted:

I try to avoid Samsung because they're evil.

Last time I mentioned it (though, in the gpu thread so my bad) just in passing I got hit with a wave of "umm, but all companies are bad braindance!" Like people were taking personal offense to me trying to avoid that brand when I can. Which true, but gently caress man just let me avoid a brand that I have a strong personal aversion to. I know I won't be avoiding every tech they make but I do what I can.

I don't even know who makes good tvs now though I got on the projector train and there's no going back. Feels like nearly all the disadvantages of a projector are just things that were relevant 5 years ago but are totally not an issue anymore.

its still way more annoying to connect up a speaker system to a projector because you want your speakers in the front but the projector is in the back. thats the big issue imo

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

all of the tvs in china are tcl wall mounts as far as i can tell by which i mean theres this weird metal apparatus on the walls youre supposed to physically hoist them on that needs to be tough because the tvs are heavy and adding any peripherals quickly turns the whole thing into a giant mess of cords

china in general seems to be really good at recycling their antique electronics because i havent seen any here except one time at an old time curio style candy shop at a hutong where they were clearly there as a bit they also had what i think was a hacked famicom mini playing a game in chinese most of the retro games here are off of these pandora boxes where you pay about a quarter per credit via qr code of course

discovered to my irritation that chinese tvs appear to have leapfrogged the component hd era entirely and only output in av and hdmi so here i am with my pandora style antique playing final fantasy adventure since it can only output in black and white

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/top.../story/?just_in

Remember Natalie Jaresko?

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Some Guy TT posted:

china in general seems to be really good at recycling their antique electronics because i havent seen any here except one time at an old time curio style candy shop at a hutong where they were clearly there as a bit they also had what i think was a hacked famicom mini playing a game in chinese most of the retro games here are off of these pandora boxes where you pay about a quarter per credit via qr code of course

I know a lot about these, and they're really cool. They're (mostly, in China) not hacked famicom minis or even emulators/fpgas at all. There are a bunch of different NES cpu clones that are still made in China. Like if you cracked open a 小霸王 it's not a fpga in there but roughly just an NES. The cpu clones are sometimes not very compatible, sometimes very close, the biggest most obvious difference usually being that they have terrible audio.

And then they don't have a list of roms in them either, but a little bit of flash memory soldered in there and on that flash memory is one big multigame rom.

I've ripped a few open, some of them are really hard to rip the rom from (not that they usually have much worth preserving but, for the sake of preservation everything must be dumped and some of them are technically unique.)

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

really want to get down to the hangzhou electronics market before i leave to see if i can find some of their weird old junk if they dont have any stalls with stuff like that i dont have a clue where else to even look for it

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

the plot of taiwan's greatest film partly involves the dad trying to rip off japanese videogames

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 5 minutes!

Antonymous posted:

the plot of taiwan's greatest film partly involves the dad trying to rip off japanese videogames
What's it called?

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

fart simpson posted:

its still way more annoying to connect up a speaker system to a projector because you want your speakers in the front but the projector is in the back. thats the big issue imo

That is true yeah. And even if you got space for them you gotta be careful they end up somewhere they won't get whacked by anything. I did a whole specific room for this, turned an extra room into a theater. And it took a lot to get everything good but still sometimes one of cables gets touched and it will make the projector get a little angled. And the smallest difference matters so much it's a pain to redo.

But if I didn't have a room specifically for this it would be even more annoying, lot of cables going from the receiver to the speakers. Probably gonna eventually put an area rug down to cover the wires.

The thing though that I always hear from people (who play games) is they won't do it cuz of input latency. But you go look at the newer projectors from BenQ, less latency than most tvs.

Some Guy TT posted:

really want to get down to the hangzhou electronics market before i leave to see if i can find some of their weird old junk if they dont have any stalls with stuff like that i dont have a clue where else to even look for it

Yeah that's one of the coolest things about China. For retro console games it's its own thing and I've got some really cool unlicensed stuff, but for actual official console stuff, it's got no Yongsan or Akihabara. But for weird/retro PC stuff its the absolute best.

I'm building a retro computer, trying to be the fastest thing actually compatible with Windows 98. Read some stuff and watched some videos and it's full of people being like "this is the best but good luck finding it." Go on Xianyu and a bunch of people in Shenzhen got it all for almost nothing.

Or sometimes new but weird hardware is for some reason a whole lot cheaper. Common new hardware is more expensive cuz taxes I guess, but I got a usb3 to fiber and back to usb3 converter, same exact product, for about a fifth the price it was in America.

Edit: sorry this is super off topic for the China thread. Just get real pumped about old/weird hardware.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

??? no its not talking about arcane computer stuff in general is offtopic talking about arcane computer stuff specifically in china is extremely ontopic thats why i brought it up

Eminent DNS
May 28, 2007

Antonymous posted:

the plot of taiwan's greatest film partly involves the dad trying to rip off japanese videogames

What film is that?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Fastest hardware to boot up win98 and crash? What hardware is that?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The China second hand PC hardware market was what got me back into gaming with cheap Intel server-grade CPUs that were so plentiful they made off-brand desktop motherboards for them

They've even done stuff like take laptop GPUs and put them into desktop-type PCBs to make more affordable versions

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Eminent DNS posted:

What film is that?

Punkin Spunkin posted:

What's it called?

It's called "A One and a Two" or actually better known by its chinese name 一一 "Yi Yi"

quote:

In Yi Yi, life is a constant act of becoming. Wu's daughter (Kelly Lee) struggles with guilt as she considers taking on a friend's discarded boyfriend as her first. Wu's initially morose younger son (Jonathan Chang) comes into his own when he discovers a camera's ability to reveal the world. Meanwhile, Wu struggles with past and future as he reconnects with the first love (Su-Yun Ko) he abandoned 30 years before, while trying to persuade his business partners to ally with a visionary Japanese video-game creator (Issei Ogata).

I remember they talk about just ripping it off

it has an 8.1 on imdb and won best director at cannes

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

i also wanted to get a motherboard for a busted notebook but i dont have the busted notebook on me is that going to be a problem or is just the model number of the notebook and the chinese word for motherboard enough to get me what i want at a price thats not just the price of a brand new notebook

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

I do not remember video games being part of Yi Yi at all lmao

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Mantis42 posted:

I do not remember video games being part of Yi Yi at all lmao

its hard for me to remember but the dad wants to reconnect with his old lover in japan and that's ostensibly why he's there. and his business partner almost dies somehow who is the guy who says why not just steal it, someone in taiwan has probably already done it. and I like to think the guy he's meeting represents Kojima

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOXTrOuG5sI

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
You probably want to get the mobo on taobao. I have brought replacement screens and screens online. Pretty straight forward. These kind of stuff is hard to source in person in the electronic mall.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

stephenthinkpad posted:

You probably want to get the mobo on taobao. I have brought replacement screens and screens online. Pretty straight forward. These kind of stuff is hard to source in person in the electronic mall.

yeah uh you dont know me well so thats really a much much worse idea to the point id be better off not getting a motherboard at all i just spent half an hour trying to fix outlook repeatedly downloading the same file attachment this is kind of why i prefer to use antiques in the first place im pretty sure the internet is out to get me

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Antonymous posted:

its hard for me to remember but the dad wants to reconnect with his old lover in japan and that's ostensibly why he's there. and his business partner almost dies somehow who is the guy who says why not just steal it, someone in taiwan has probably already done it. and I like to think the guy he's meeting represents Kojima

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOXTrOuG5sI

makes sense. the name of the movie is also a reference to gtav's franklin and his haircut

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I don't remember any plot of Yi Yi except it was good. Is there a ranking on the best movies from this director?

If you speak Chinese, there is a youtube channel that talks about alot of old Taiwanese PC games from the 90s and early 00s when Taiwan made most of the Chinese language games. Most of them are Wuxia RPG obviously.

stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 12:17 on Dec 23, 2022

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

idk about ranking all their work.but I love terrorizers

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

people on twitter and itf extrapolating from unreliable crematoria anecdotes and uncritically posting jennifer zeng videos, it's 2020 all over again

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

R. Guyovich posted:

people on twitter and itf extrapolating from unreliable crematoria anecdotes and uncritically posting jennifer zeng videos, it's 2020 all over again

yeah. there are enough boners to report on in official China state media, the other stuff is noise.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
wow I can't believe 500,000 Chinese people died of the novel coronavirus yesterday

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
my favorite 2020 hysteria was billions of chinese people dead because they stopped buying data. On their Cellphones. Because of a lockdown.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

lol http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202212/09/WS6392fa9ba31057c47eba3a43.html

quote:

Jia Zhongwu, an official from the National Administration of Traditional Chinese Medicine, said at a news conference on Friday that traditional Chinese medicine is an indispensable and irreplaceable part of the "Chinese plan" for the epidemic prevention and control.

He said the World Health Organization has affirmed the effectiveness and safety of traditional Chinese medicine in the treatment of COVID-19 at an expert assessment meeting.

"TCM treatment is mainly for the asymptomatic and those with mild symptoms. For severe and critical patients, we use both Chinese and Western medicine treatment," he said.

Liu Qingquan, president of the Beijing Hospital of Traditional Chinese Medicine, said at the conference that clinical practice has proved that the effect of the combination of Chinese and Western treatment is remarkable, especially in treating the symptoms of fever, sore throat, cough and fatigue caused by COVID-19.

Studies have shown that traditional Chinese medicine has inhibited the virus from invading and replicating itself, he said.

“TCM is for when we think it doesn’t really matter”

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

mawarannahr posted:

lol http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202212/09/WS6392fa9ba31057c47eba3a43.html

“TCM is for when we think it doesn’t really matter”

lol. yeah for asymptomatic sickness I mostly use an AoE healing spell and it works great but if I get a headache I take a Tylenol too

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Some Guy TT posted:

i also wanted to get a motherboard for a busted notebook but i dont have the busted notebook on me is that going to be a problem or is just the model number of the notebook and the chinese word for motherboard enough to get me what i want at a price thats not just the price of a brand new notebook

my experience of buying a replacement laptop mobo on Alibaba was that you’ll need the motherboard model number at least

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

In Training posted:

idk about ranking all their work.but I love terrorizers

terrorizers is a prototype inñaritu film

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

How many clowns are in that one?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Yurobeat_/status/1605885584777416705

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
some stuff about china's housing market from a dec 12 michael hudson Q&A:

https://michael-hudson.com/2022/12/china-the-change-agent-patreon-qa-3/

quote:

Michael Hudson: The idea of making fortunes by borrowing money to bid up real estate prices for debt-financed land value gains, is not really a way to get rich. Just by inflating the counters of what a house or an office building or a home is worth by going into debt is the Western way to get rich and also, to impoverish the economy. And Xi is not doing that. He didn’t specifically talk about real estate and the financial problems that are occurring there but he made it clear that he’s going to end the whole idea of the government providing credit simply to increase the price of real capital investment, housing, factories, plant and equipment that are – he’s more concerned with economic reality than the financial image of this reality that is inflated by prices. He didn’t quite say it that way but we still have a few days for him to spell out everything.

Karl Fitzgerald: Well, that’s good to hear Michael because I must say I was disheartened when it was announced earlier this year that the talk of implementing a property tax in particular regions was, even that was quashed in China and it really, for me, drove home just how powerful property interests were. But you’re saying that there is still hope that he’s going to pull into line this post-manufacturing economic model of using real estate and population growth and infrastructure expenditure to drive growth?

Michael Hudson: Well, at least, that’s what I’ve been spending all my time in China talking about. The focus of all the lectures that I’ve done in China that you’re now putting up on my website and you put some up on Patreon, are all about that. Right now, Xi has a problem in increasing the taxes that are – if he increases the taxes on housing and real estate on the rents that are now being paid to the banks, the banks will go under. How is he going to manage this? I think that he should let the banks go under because the bankers who made a lot of money will go under but fortunately, ultimately, all this banking money is owed to the government.
(19:56)

And the government can simply write down the debt. So yes, property prices that have been inflated by debt will go down but the building won’t be destroyed. It’s just the price of the building will go down and there are all sorts of ways of compensating for that by reducing the rents to reflect the actual cost of the building. This is the discussion that’s going on throughout China and the problem is especially serious in an area that really, the government has left to the localities in the past. People think of China as being a centralised, centrally-managed economy but that’s not what’s happened at all.

Localities have had an enormous freedom to let a hundred flowers bloom, let each go their own way and the result is that localities have had to finance their domestic city and local spending by selling land to developers. And that is the problem that – that has created the enormous problems that you have today because the developers have then gone to the banks, not the government of China banks, but the banks that are borrowed from are the Bank of China and there has been a whole sort of privatised financialised banking system that’s developed. That’s what they’re finally turning to in the next presidency of Xi. And obviously, everybody in China realises that this has to be done right now and that hasn’t become explicit but that’s the problem that I’m sure they’re all talking about in Beijing this week.

president xi my people plead for housing controls

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
https://twitter.com/JMSDF_21aw/status/1605835537738215430

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Yurobeat_/status/1605885584777416705?t=GkXj_FN1s8GJ2eIbEbSm3Q&s=19

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I don't know wtf am I looking at but

Congratulation.gif

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

close enough

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Truga posted:


close enough

if by close you mean that plane exactly down to the tail number

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