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Kesper North posted:Wow, this really puts the Dauntless design in a lot more context for me. I though it looked weird and almost un-Starfleet like, but now I really see how it's very much a streamlined Voyager. I'm still not a fan of how they just chopped off a solid quarter of the original Dauntless. It ruins the side and rear profile of the ship. 
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Kesper North posted:Wow, this really puts the Dauntless design in a lot more context for me. I though it looked weird and almost un-Starfleet like, but now I really see how it's very much a streamlined Voyager. Well it is un-starfleet-like, it's a starfleet recreation of an alien ship. nine-gear crow posted:I'm still not a fan of how they just chopped off a solid quarter of the original Dauntless. It ruins the side and rear profile of the ship. Yeah it looks wierder now but on the other hand it does look more starfleet-like, so it helps drive home that this is the Starfleet adaption of the original.
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MikeJF posted:Well it is un-starfleet-like, it's a starfleet recreation of an alien ship. Oh I know that, I just found it a particularly unconvincing fake. Like, uncanny valley levels of not-right. It fooled the crew of Voyager for a little longer.
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I think 'uncanny valley starfleet ship' was exactly what they were going for. The crew of Voyager were eager to accept it because of what it offered and also they could explain the difference away with 'slipstream tech made us do this' but it was meant to look visibly off. But yeah the new one's silhouette is much more starfleet. I do wish they'd pushed the nacelles up rather than down though. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Dec 23, 2022 05:23
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Still doesn't explain why they kept that horrible bridge for the Starfleet copy though.
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Kesper North posted:Still doesn't explain why they kept that horrible bridge for the Starfleet copy though. Slipstream doesn't work unless the bridge is shaped like that and they don't know why. (At least they installed a viewscreen on this one. The original didn't have one.)
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I don't mind the Dauntless bridge, though all those light panels might make more sense if they were part of a holographic panorama viewscreen system instead, maybe like what the Minbari use on Babylon 5
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Delsaber posted:I don't mind the Dauntless bridge, though all those light panels might make more sense if they were part of a holographic panorama viewscreen system instead, maybe like what the Minbari use on Babylon 5 This. I still don't understand why they didn't do this.
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The white light panels are there so they can throw blue gels on them and use the same walls as Dauntless's engineering without it being too obvious.
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Re: Prodigy, it is a little glaring in retrospect that they didn't go 'oh hey also could you relay to starfleet what's happening and maybe tell other starfleet ships not to come' to one of the other ships they hailed.
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Pyroi posted:Clearly time poo poo is going on, and each one of the ships is the same ship at a different moment in its personal timeline. The Enterprise was famous for its high quality well tuned nacelles and it turned out to be easier to just replicate those than fix damage
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Dec 23, 2022 06:00
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The nacelles did seems to have been pulled off and reattached differently every time we saw the ship.
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6ft model wonky nacelle supremacy
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She's a 10 but her nacelle's a little wonky
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Delsaber posted:She's a 10 but her nacelle's a little wonky Okay, but how does the ship look?
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Just watched "Trouble with Tribbles" for the first time in awhile. I forgot about the "Klingon who who has been body modifed not look not like Klingon." I deeply, *deeply* hope that this is not where the Discovery writers got the idea of the Klingon spy part. Mostly out of great irritation that such a good episode spawned such a bad plot point.
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MikeJF posted:Re: Prodigy, it is a little glaring in retrospect that they didn't go 'oh hey also could you relay to starfleet what's happening and maybe tell other starfleet ships not to come' to one of the other ships they hailed. Maybe she did that in a part of the speech we didn't see, but figure the "call for backup" stuff was already in motion. Honestly, given that the Starfleet ships are currently unshielded, just have the Klingons or other armed ships shoot the weapons that are firing. Though again, figure the construct has a nasty potential fallback strategy of "have the Starfleet ships crash into each other."
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Watched 'Supernova'; was amused by how the kids' show has no qualms about showing an on-screen death, but on the other hand the compromised Starfleet ships blast away at each other for several solid minutes with only superficial damage (despite all having their shields down) until right at the end, when we see a couple of them lose nacelles or whatever. The Evil AI must have accidentally set the phasers to Tickle Mode.
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The ships slowly shredding each other with big bursts of flames (seemingly blowing out whole decks?) to show it's serious reminded me a little bit of Deep Space Nine. All of a sudden in "Way of the Warrior" and "Call to Arms" beam weapons hitting the station's shields resulted in big rear end fireballs where they hit. It looked cool as hell, but it was a little bit odd how that started happening for seemingly no reason. I don't know, maybe it was excess energy from the morphing grid or something.
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Prodigy is a little frustrating. On the one hand, it's a genuinely good show. On the other hand, I feel like it's hovering juuuuust outside the range of being a great show, and I don't think it would take much to push it there. But then, it's also a kid's show, and I am a methuselah, so I can't tell if the little details I think would make it go from good -> great would also push it out of its intended age demographic. Relatedly, I really loved them dropping the soundtrack and going for stark silence when the first phaser shots went off.
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Payndz posted:Watched 'Supernova'; was amused by how the kids' show has no qualms about showing an on-screen death, but on the other hand the compromised Starfleet ships blast away at each other for several solid minutes with only superficial damage (despite all having their shields down) until right at the end, when we see a couple of them lose nacelles or whatever. The Evil AI must have accidentally set the phasers to Tickle Mode. Presumably that's to let them have a big fleet for the threat while not actually completely decimating starfleet. If you want it explained, note that the evil ai seems to have to command every single phaser fire itself, and seems to be a bit rate-limited. And also it's happening without the help of the crew (and probably in many cases active hinderance) so things aren't working at 100%. Maybe starfleet rolled out Defiant's armour layer fleetwide.
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FYI Paramount+ in Brazil released part 2 alongside part 1 of the Prodigy finale and spoilers are already circulating. I expect it will be on  sites in a few hours.
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MikeJF posted:If you want it explained, note that the evil ai seems to have to command every single phaser fire itself, and seems to be a bit rate-limited. And also it's happening without the help of the crew (and probably in many cases active hinderance) so things aren't working at 100%. As some other person keeps saying - Starfleet really, REALLY needs some physical "off" switches for their systems.
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MikeJF posted:Presumably that's to let them have a big fleet for the threat while not actually completely decimating starfleet. A phaser against an unshielded ship should slice it up like the Shadows did to the Narn fleet in B5, but the only time we've really seen anything like that is when we also saw what happens when a human takes a full-power starship phaser beam to the gut - ironically, in the comedy show!
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Payndz posted:Watched 'Supernova'; was amused by how the kids' show has no qualms about showing an on-screen death, but on the other hand the compromised Starfleet ships blast away at each other for several solid minutes with only superficial damage (despite all having their shields down) until right at the end, when we see a couple of them lose nacelles or whatever. The Evil AI must have accidentally set the phasers to Tickle Mode. Bit of a funny story, re: The Diviner's death https://www.cinemablend.com/intervi...ltimate-episode They had to come up with his body disintegration to energy after he died because when they were blocking out the episode and doing storyboards, the director pointed out to the Hageman bros that the way the episode was written at the time meant that the Diviner's corpse would just be lying there in the background on the bridge for the rest of the episode while everything else was going down because he died so early into it. And while they thought it was funny as poo poo, the realized you can't really do that on kids TV, so it's now a canon thing that the Vau N’Akat turn into energy when they die. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Prodigy has some of the most gut punch cliffhangers lately. I wanna see what happens next! Considering how lukewarm I was on the show in the first part of the season, I'm amazed how invested I am with this now.
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nine-gear crow posted:I'm still not a fan of how they just chopped off a solid quarter of the original Dauntless. It ruins the side and rear profile of the ship. USS Mouse Pointer Mr.Radar posted:FYI Paramount+ in Brazil released part 2 alongside part 1 of the Prodigy finale and spoilers are already circulating. I expect it will be on English audio? Cause if so, I know what I'm going to look around for in a bit.
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nine-gear crow posted:Bit of a funny story, re: The Diviner's death See, I'm the evil gently caress that wanted his corpse to stay around because they're still in the middle of a space battle, so when their ship gets hit or shaken his unsecured body would go flying all over the place hitting people and maybe giving them weird accidental "death hugs."
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Everyone posted:See, I'm the evil gently caress that wanted his corpse to stay around because they're still in the middle of a space battle, so when their ship gets hit or shaken his unsecured body would go flying all over the place hitting people and maybe giving them weird accidental "death hugs." Picard: "Mister Worf! Would you kindly remove the corpse from the bridge?" Sisko: "GET. THAT. CORPSE. Off my bridge!" Janeway: "Harry, beam that corpse into space." [Glugs coffee] Archer: "Hurf durf, water polo." Burnham: [cries] Freeman: "Why the gently caress is there a corpse on my bridge? Beckett!"
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Payndz posted:Archer: "Hurf durf, water polo." T’Pol: Captain, Vulcans have determined that it is unwise to leave a corpse unsecured on the bridge. Archer: I’m sure they have. I’m sure the Vulcans have pages and pages of rules and procedures and step by step instructions about what to do with a corpse on the bridge. But we’re out here to do things our way, not the way the Vulcans want us to. And I bet that gets right under your unemotional, logical skin, doesn’t it? T’Pol: *eyebrow* Porthos pees on the corpse.
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Pike: Well, waste-not want-not. Ensign, we'll be eating my famous chili tonight!
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Star Trek: Weekend at Diviner's Star Trek: Swiss Army Diviner
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LORCA: = oh poo poo, what would these wimpy Federation dweebs do with a body??? = Saru, transport to sickbay for the morgue. PiKE: =thinks about what is the right thing to do.= Saru, transport to sickbay for the mourge. SARU: =thinks an unsecured dead body is a hazard= Burnham, transport to sickbay for the mourge. BURNHAM: =thinks this was a lot of work for a meme= Saru, transport to sickbay for the moruge.
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My Second Re-Reg posted:Prodigy is a little frustrating. On the one hand, it's a genuinely good show. On the other hand, I feel like it's hovering juuuuust outside the range of being a great show, and I don't think it would take much to push it there. I think it's pretty much a "great show," but in terms of its own genre, it's not really Air Bender/Korra yet. nine-gear crow posted:Bit of a funny story, re: The Diviner's death I kind of guessed that's what caused this choice when I was watching it.
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Twincityhacker posted:LORCA: = oh poo poo, what would these wimpy Federation dweebs do with a body??? = Saru, transport to sickbay for the morgue. EMPEROR GEORGIOU: =notices slight visual similarity between Vau N'Akat head tendrils and Kelpien ganglia= Michael, transport this to the kitchen for my private dining room.
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My theory for next episode is that the Diviner's energy transfer will allow Gwynn to control or disarm the Living Weapon. Also high-five and hat's off to the show for putting her in the captain's chair, holy poo poo, I did not see that coming way back when I complained about her not being in command from the start.
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Kesper North posted:My theory for next episode is that the Diviner's energy transfer will allow Gwynn to control or disarm the Living Weapon. Same, she's who I felt should have been captain and was better suited for it than Dal so him actually recognizing that and giving up the chair for her was great.
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In late to the party news, I watched the first episode of Prodigy. Not even as childish as I expected, and from everything I've read here I am eager to see the rest.
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Astroman posted:In late to the party news, I watched the first episode of Prodigy. It's real good. The last few episodes have been  
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