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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Ethnic pride makes perfect sense. Very proud of this characteristic I had zero choice or control of. And you know what? It's definitely worth fighting about.
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Dec 23, 2022 18:58
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We should unironically aspire to be the most rootless of cosmopolitans. Interesting what that became a byword for though in regards to opposition to nationalism
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Dec 23, 2022 19:00
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How to do even do racial science after we have good ancient DNA sequencing in the last 20 years, it's crazy. All human walked out of Africa.
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Dec 23, 2022 19:01
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because random haplogroups are too nerdy for your salt of the earth racist who grew up in a community/society that oftentimes pushes a better mythical story.
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Dec 23, 2022 19:03
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Also the tiny bit of indomania that europeans had before british rule settled in for the long haul did give us really cool linguistic studies.
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Dec 23, 2022 19:05
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stephenthinkpad posted:This halo thing is actually my favorite This is just sad now since the big telescope has been abandoned
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Dec 23, 2022 19:05
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Atrocious Joe posted:This is just sad now since the big telescope has been abandoned It's collapsed isn't it.
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Dec 23, 2022 19:09
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Atrocious Joe posted:This is just sad now since the big telescope has been abandoned That was my first thought. They had trouble getting funding just to move the scrap, zero chance it is ever being rebuilt
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Dec 23, 2022 19:17
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Someone else posted about it in real time but it really was one of those moments where you could see that everything that doesn't directly enrich a few people has been left to rot and decay, our society just doesn't function to build these kinds of things anymore. We've basically abandoned civilizational aspirations.
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Dec 23, 2022 19:19
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Tankbuster posted:Also the tiny bit of indomania that europeans had before british rule settled in for the long haul did give us really cool linguistic studies. yeah it's wild that they were able to reconstruct proto indo european accurately enough to know, in the 19th century, where PIE speakers originated. this was confirmed with genetic testing in the 21st century.
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Dec 23, 2022 19:23
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:the blonde haired, blue eyed, sword wielding valkyrie does not have any nazi symbols this is equivalent to saying nazis and goths are related because they both like black, leathers, and get publicly humiliated by women
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Dec 23, 2022 19:33
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ISN"T THE RING SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE OTHER HAND FOR THIS MEME TO WORK?? ISN"T THE RING SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE OTHER HAND FOR THIS MEME TO WORK?? ISN"T THE RING SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE OTHER HAND FOR THIS MEME TO WORK??
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Dec 23, 2022 19:38
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In this specific instance, the partition of Poland meant that Germany and Austria-Hungary came to posses territory containing many Slavic-language speaking peasants, and the Russian Empire others. Being divided by imperial powers made people sad, imagining they were the master race made them happy. Then a bunch of stuff happened over a period of 200 years where some of these groups like the Kashubians emigrated as a stateless people, some like the Slovaks got autonomy, then independence, and others were still divided across borders. Somehow this led to the Holocaust. I would guess that the various imperial powers that partitioned Poland found some of these ideas useful for pumping the brakes on Pan-Slavism, and Austria-Hungary and Germany specifically wanted the Slavs in their borders not to identify with the more-or-less identical peasants in the Russian Empire. Because state religion was very much still a thing, there were religious differences across borders, and because state literacy programs insisted the peasants adopt certain scripts and alphabets, linguistic. I suppose gradually this made their languages seems more distant, hence the "bread" thing, but that's not my area. Maybe related, it used to outrage British officials in Canada that people along the American border said "Zee" instead of "Zed" so a big project of building early Canadian nationalism, when within living memory these were more or less identical groups of people separated by a border and split based on allegiance to the Crown, was to create linguistic differences. It's almost identical to the position the Galicians were in after the Polish revolt, where they identified as "Imperial" above all else, just like the first English Canadian identity was "Loyalist". To reinforce that when the conflict passed from living memory - and hence loyalty to the Crown might not be guaranteed - a lot of effort went into making Canadian English more distinct, cultivating a Canadian accent and vocabulary, teaching a mythological Canadian past. If a rival power wanted to stir up English Canadian animosity towards America, which is what the British did for the 19th century and first quarter of the 20th, it seems to me they would do pretty much all the same things that we've seen happen with Ukrainian Nationalism, national mythology etc. Promote Anglicanism, suppress other churches, promote the "least American" dialects of English, bring back the old ideas of an Anglo-Saxon race compared to mongrel Yankees, remind people of American atrocities in the Revolutionary War and War of 1812. It's come up ITT that the Ukrainian border was extremely porous before 2014. In Western Canada in the mid 1800s, half of Canadians were American born and a quarter of Canadian born men emigrated to America. To make the 48th a "hard border", there was a massive effort to create this artificial linguistic and "racial" distinction with the US. It's a big reason for why the RCMP became a national symbol of Canada. Their first expeditions were to chase out Americans who were living in the western territories and to create a border to keep them out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r00yaFwZ5bc Obviously, it's way more intense with Ukraine, but you can see how these things happen. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 19:43 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Dec 23, 2022 19:39
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:You can't get divine aid if you don't apply for it. Equal opportunity for access to divine aid!
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Dec 23, 2022 19:44
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Hatebag posted:It's funny they went with a viking theme because this map of viking conquest shows that the vikings were basically in control of the ukrainian territory that russia controls right now taking a moment to reflect on a nation of rapists and thieves grew up to become liberals and neonazis maybe thats why ukraine thinks it has a connection to nordic countries?
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Dec 23, 2022 19:44
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Armadillo Tank posted:taking a moment to reflect on a nation of rapists and thieves grew up to become liberals and neonazis Don't make sweeping statements like this about entire countries, please.
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Dec 23, 2022 19:50
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lol, Ukraine isn't a real country, it can't even print its own money anymore. https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-commits-tighten-fiscal-policy-160932728.html quote:Ukraine Commits to Tighten Fiscal Policy to Access IMF Aid
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Dec 23, 2022 20:02
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Majorian posted:Don't make sweeping statements like this about entire countries, please. It took the Nordic countries getting flattened in several wars to become quaint social democracies. It's what Labour intended for the UK in the 50's and 60's as Empire ended, but that project was fought tooth and nail.
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Dec 23, 2022 20:03
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Frosted Flake posted:It took the Nordic countries getting flattened in several wars to become quaint social democracies. It's what Labour intended for the UK in the 50's and 60's as Empire ended, but that project was fought tooth and nail. Yup. Also what the Great Society advocates wanted here in the U.S., but well, we didn't get flattened.
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Dec 23, 2022 20:08
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i really like imf recommendations, because the simultaneous directions of "increase your tax revenues" and "privatize all your state run companies" is right out of a vaudeville routine you really need to strengthen the private sector, ukraine. you can do this by ending state subsidies of small business in the middle of a war to increase the health of the economy.
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Dec 23, 2022 20:10
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you can't really transition into a quaint social democracy without either unbelievable quantities of easily accessible oil or having a friendly imperial hegemon exploit the global south for you
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Dec 23, 2022 20:10
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Shut up! All of you shut up. I forgot the "global south" existed and was having fun thinking about Ukraine slaughtering the orcs and you brought them up again. You always bring them up and it is just such a loving bummer. Can you at least keep that poo poo in its own threads?
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Dec 23, 2022 20:13
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discretionary spending trends look exactly like all those conscripts you keep feeding into russian guns, this is the perfect time to cease all state intervention in an economy without money to spend and without bodies to produce things
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Dec 23, 2022 20:16
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The simple act of other countries existing and sucking comparatively less is whataboutism
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Dec 23, 2022 20:17
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Armadillo Tank posted:taking a moment to reflect on a nation of rapists and thieves grew up to become liberals and neonazis the italians managed to achieve this without the viking connection
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Dec 23, 2022 20:18
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iCe-CuBe. posted:Shut up! All of you shut up. I forgot the "global south" existed and was having fun thinking about Ukraine slaughtering the orcs and you brought them up again. You always bring them up and it is just such a loving bummer. Can you at least keep that poo poo in its own threads? And don't get me started about all of you who keep bringing up the U.S., what has the U.S. got to do with any of this? You're all so America-centric.
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Dec 23, 2022 20:19
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SorePotato posted:the italians managed to achieve this without the viking connection Wow, MASSIVE Norman Kingdom of Sicily erasure here!
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Dec 23, 2022 20:20
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Majorian posted:Wow, MASSIVE Norman Kingdom of Sicily erasure here! wasnt about to touch that. you should know better
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Dec 23, 2022 20:21
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Malleum posted:i really like imf recommendations, because the simultaneous directions of "increase your tax revenues" and "privatize all your state run companies" is right out of a vaudeville routine yea the real answer is that Ukraine is hosed no matter what now but the IMF needs to keep up appearances and provide some helpful tips as if there is a way to salvage a ship that broke in half and sank like 8 months ago.
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Dec 23, 2022 20:21
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Majorian posted:And don't get me started about all of you who keep bringing up the U.S., what has the U.S. got to do with any of this? You're all so America-centric. heavy flashbacks to the d&d latin america thread
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Dec 23, 2022 20:23
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Vomik posted:aren’t biblical angels supposed to be horrifying to behold and can blind you looking at them if you don’t just die? Possibly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxrNA1c8Zpk
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Dec 23, 2022 20:24
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SorePotato posted:wasnt about to touch that. you should know better That's fair, I'm still salty about those Hauteville fuckers stabbing Byzantium in the back over and over again. 
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Dec 23, 2022 20:26
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SorePotato posted:the italians managed to achieve this without the viking connection "During the seven decades between 1848 and 1914, more and more Ukrainian activists in the Russian as well as the Austrian empires felt that Galicia had become a Piedmont from which a future independent state on all-Ukrainian territory would grow." Also, who has the Cassandra meme? : "By the summer of 1991, most Galician Ukrainians considered themselves part of a nationally conscious vanguard that stood in the forefront of the struggle for an independent Ukraine. It is not surprising, therefore, that when independence was confirmed during a national referendum in December 1991, fully 94 percent of the inhabitants in Galicia's three oblasts (L'viv, Ivano-Frankivs'k, Ternopil') voted in favor of Ukrainian sovereignty. Since that time, Galicians, whether national democrats or right-wing integral nationalists (UNA-UNSO), have favored the adoption of a new constitution that would define Ukraine as a centralized and unitary state with only limited local government for existing oblasts and no administrative recognition for historic regions such as Galicia. In the end, the results of the referendum of 1991 and the centralized constitution which was adopted in 1996 reflected the continuation of a tradition by which Galician Ukrainians have viewed themselves—and are still viewed by other Ukrainians—as the most avid supporters of an independent and unitary Ukrainian nation-state."
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Dec 23, 2022 20:29
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CongoJack posted:yea the real answer is that Ukraine is hosed no matter what now but the IMF needs to keep up appearances and provide some helpful tips as if there is a way to salvage a ship that broke in half and sank like 8 months ago. IMF advice to Ukraine is like telling 5 surviving sailors trapped in the forward torpedo room of their otherwise flooded submarine grounded at the bottom of the marianas trench that they just need to jiggle the keys to start the engine up again.
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Dec 23, 2022 20:30
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Frosted Flake posted:"During the seven decades between 1848 and 1914, more and more Ukrainian activists in the Russian as well as the Austrian empires felt that Galicia had become a Piedmont from which a future independent state on all-Ukrainian territory would grow." See the funny thing is that at the rate things are going, there's a good chance they'll end up where they started. Poland.
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Dec 23, 2022 20:33
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It should go without saying but the IMF's advice does not have Ukraine's best interests in mind. Would those policies advantage plundering the Ukrainian state? If so, the advice to Ukraine is "correct". Zelensky's support is contingent on it, so again, he's pursuing this course of action that will destroy his state more as surely as war will. Lostconfused posted:See the funny thing is that at the rate things are going, there's a good chance they'll end up where they started. People talk about the "death drive" of right wing ideology, and this would be a good example. All of the violence and horror unleashed on Poles and Jews as part of this project, and where do they end up? Jewish president, calling themselves "Big Israel", appealing to the Jewish state to give them military aid, wholly dependant on Poland's good graces to receive military aid, Polish mercenaries to do their fighting, and with Poland allegedly eyeing Lwow more and more greedily each day. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 20:39 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Dec 23, 2022 20:36
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https://twitter.com/BretDevereaux/status/1605681082048946187 Why do I get the feeling that this is going to be a massively oversimplified analysis, going off the title alone? 
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Dec 23, 2022 20:36
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Is there an example of an "end state" IMF country? That they run out of public function to privatize? Chili before the riot?
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Dec 23, 2022 20:39
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stephenthinkpad posted:Is there an example of an "end state" IMF country? That they run out of public function to privatize? yeah 80s chile was the gold standard
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stephenthinkpad posted:Is there an example of an "end state" IMF country? That they run out of public function to privatize? Besides Russia in the 90s you mean? e: but yeah Chile would be the answer they'd point to if you asked the IMF.
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