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Fyadophobic posted:I have been trying hard to get into K6BD, it feels like something I should be into, the art is amazing and the worldbuilding is cool, etc. etc. Thinking about what isn't clicking for me, now I realize a big part is the pacing. For a comic that has such an insane amount of sheer stuff happing on each page and every panel, I still feel like very little has actually happened I have very little emotional investment in any of the characters so far. Sometimes it feels like there is so much detail and so much stuff happening that it interferes with the story's conveyance/readability, and the important parts of the signal get lost in the noise. K6BD doesn't really pick up until a few dozen pages from where we are in the story. The Mottom arc is 1. Really good and 2. character driven.
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Yea stick with it. There are plenty of those moments you are asking for.
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Kit Walker posted:Kill Six Billion Demons the baddies throwing a tea party reminds me of robert jordan's wheel of time's forsakens
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Tree Bucket posted:We have a lot of black and white art in this thread atm! Which means- Oh poo poo, something I've been posting has been featured in a Tree Bucket mash up! I've made it, I've hit the big time \o/ That's a pretty good Alex, by the way. Emzedoh posted:And then it got worse.   There it is, an rationale of sorts for the game of thrones nonsense. Anyway, back to the conquering.   
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Any word if K6BD is releasing a complete book set when it's all done?
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Any word if K6BD is releasing a complete book set when it's all done? no, but my guess is that there will be a patreon
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Kids these days with your patreons and gofindmes! How about you go find me a publication date!
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When k6bd was first coming out and largely unproven, what made people go "No, no stick with it, I bet it'll get better." What's the signifier for potential? I'm asking from a technical stand point to learn / discuss, not a "Pffft what even is there" standpoint to be clear. I'm not super clicking with it, but it's pretty, and I wonder how much people are willing to put up with are directly related to the art, or if there are signifiers of quality that tickle the brain and makes someone go "I bet this is going to get good 3 years from now..." e: I hope I asked thsi in a way that didn't make me sound like a poo poo head.
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Its when they started kissing and doing the fusion dance. Or the next chapter which has an amazing battle ahead. 
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Emzedoh posted:
Shenanigans! Alexander and his men would have known Kandahar as Alexandria, since they founded it. It would be centuries before the name evolved into Kandahar in the local dialect.
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Boba Pearl posted:When k6bd was first coming out and largely unproven, what made people go "No, no stick with it, I bet it'll get better." What's the signifier for potential? I'm asking from a technical stand point to learn / discuss, not a "Pffft what even is there" standpoint to be clear. I'm not super clicking with it, but it's pretty, and I wonder how much people are willing to put up with are directly related to the art, or if there are signifiers of quality that tickle the brain and makes someone go "I bet this is going to get good 3 years from now..." also i just like ultra violence and bad rear end fight scenes in comics. i'm the fool who takes the wrong lessons from the great outdoor fight
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Boba Pearl posted:When k6bd was first coming out and largely unproven, what made people go "No, no stick with it, I bet it'll get better." What's the signifier for potential? I'm asking from a technical stand point to learn / discuss, not a "Pffft what even is there" standpoint to be clear. I'm not super clicking with it, but it's pretty, and I wonder how much people are willing to put up with are directly related to the art, or if there are signifiers of quality that tickle the brain and makes someone go "I bet this is going to get good 3 years from now..." For me it was mostly the art. The page with Allison getting the key embedded in her forehead, the page when her skeleton appears upside down in throne. I'm also a sucker for stories that use fantasy as a lens for sexuality and gender. So the comic starting with sex, and Preem Vash taunting white chain, Allison calling white chain "lady" which they assumed was an insult, it all teased that something great might be coming. I also like stories that conflate violence and eroticism and there's a bit of that in the alt texts, descriptions of what the conquering king must be like, meti's writings etc
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Boba Pearl posted:When k6bd was first coming out and largely unproven, what made people go "No, no stick with it, I bet it'll get better." What's the signifier for potential? I'm asking from a technical stand point to learn / discuss, not a "Pffft what even is there" standpoint to be clear. I'm not super clicking with it, but it's pretty, and I wonder how much people are willing to put up with are directly related to the art, or if there are signifiers of quality that tickle the brain and makes someone go "I bet this is going to get good 3 years from now..." The drinking contest. And the reaction to her winning it.
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vyelkin posted:Hell yeah fantastic work as always, only Joost is missing Jojo art is really really hard to copy. That's jazz, baby!! MokBa posted:How are you this good at it every time? As a fellow artist I am genuinely amazed at your ability to copy and synthesize all these styles. And your HAV Alexander is very close to how Beaton actually drew him. I honestly don't know. I just sort of look at thing A, and then thing B, and then I know what to draw. I've managed to sell a few of these, which is basically the same idea:  It must be a matter of brain wiring. I can churn out an art grid in an hour or so, but procedures with numbered steps and quantities make my head feel like it's filled with splintery blocks of wood. So, well, pros and cons... Tree Bucket has a new favorite as of 23:24 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Tree Bucket posted:Jojo art is really really hard to copy. That's cute as hell where can it be bought
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the holy poopacy posted:Shenanigans! Alexander and his men would have known Kandahar as Alexandria, since they founded it. It would be centuries before the name evolved into Kandahar in the local dialect. Wikipedia says there was an Achaemenid outpost there beforehand, but you're right, the comic doesn't make much of a deal of Alex's habit of founding cities wherever he went. As for K6BD, I've been following it in real time since chapter 1 and I got to be honest, I've never had problems with pacing or characterisation or anything. I just really vibed with the setting and the supplementary writing, I guess. The overall style really matched my taste and I've never been afraid of a confusing in media res sort of opening. I really think people are sleeping on the short stories and story fragments, though. They're so cool, Meti's Sword Manual, Aesma's complete bullshit, Prim and the road and especially later on the Tale of Yaun, I'd read a book of these completely separate from the comic itself.
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Boba Pearl posted:When k6bd was first coming out and largely unproven, what made people go "No, no stick with it, I bet it'll get better." What's the signifier for potential? I'm asking from a technical stand point to learn / discuss, not a "Pffft what even is there" standpoint to be clear. I'm not super clicking with it, but it's pretty, and I wonder how much people are willing to put up with are directly related to the art, or if there are signifiers of quality that tickle the brain and makes someone go "I bet this is going to get good 3 years from now..."  For me, it's several things. I'm enthralled by the art because of how much detail the artist likes to use. The roughness has a strong appeal for me, I know it puts some people off but I feel like it works for the setting and tone of the story anyway. It's very imaginative and evocative with how it presents these realms and people to you. It's for sure explaining a lot, but also leaving a lot unsaid and implied, either for the reader to imagine, or to be explored later. Someone said it feels very Dark Souls, and I have to agree. It's def very different from Dark Souls in most of the details, but as for the overall impression the story leaves me with, all the bits and pieces you learn about the world feels similar to when DS was giving me bits and pieces about the world of Lordran. Lots of names and places that wash over me, but still grasping the overall shape of "world-shattering mythical events happening, then a crumbling and re-crumbling of the old orders until we get to today." It's somewhat slowly paced in terms of Things Happening, as Fyadophobic pointed out, and that type of story usually struggles to hold my attention but K6BD works for me because everything about it is so good that I like to take my time with every page anyway. The things people say to each other and how they say them, hinting what the pecking order and hidden or overt conflicts may be, are fun to read, and the art also provides a lot to look at to examine the world by.
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I feel like it was also a bit easier to absorb details when the comic was coming out page by page early on than reading it all at once
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i curse you for introducing the concept of major mitchell penguins to me and the fact i'll never get to see one
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Mx. posted:That's cute as hell where can it be bought I have a very neglected redbubble page. https://www.redbubble.com/i/art-print/The-Avigraph-by-Tree-Bucket/112491414.1G4ZT?asc=u Although posting product links to the thread feels kind of iffy, so I'm happy to delete it if need be World Famous W posted:i curse you for introducing the concept of major mitchell penguins to me and the fact i'll never get to see one Why can't everything be spotted pardalote colours Son of Thunderbeast posted:For me, it's several things. I'm enthralled by the art because of how much detail the artist likes to use. The roughness has a strong appeal for me, I know it puts some people off but I feel like it works for the setting and tone of the story anyway. I agree with all your points, but what do you mean by "roughness"? Interesting word.
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:I feel like it was also a bit easier to absorb details when the comic was coming out page by page early on than reading it all at once This is not a criticism of it being posted or how, but I'm also having trouble re-getting it in Imgur/thread format, to the point where I'm just reading those pages on the site again. And if phone reading, no way Jose.
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K6BD is definitely not phone friendly, and especially not reposted on SA via imgur phone friendly.
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Emzedoh posted:K6BD is definitely not phone friendly, and especially not reposted on SA via imgur phone friendly. Is this an app issue? It's perfectly fine on phone with Chrome browser.
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Tree Bucket posted:I agree with all your points, but what do you mean by "roughness"? Interesting word. I think a good example of what I mean is this pair of panels showing the Queen of Worms and Solomon:  Abaddon uses a lot of little dots and lines to add detail to faces, which works great and feels congruent for realistic faces like Solomon's, and for horrors like Mottom and that bat-gollum thing. But the lady's face is a bit more cartoony and exaggerated in the features and expressions, especially with the eyes, and while it has less detail drawn in, it still has a lot of the wrinkles and folds, which feels a little weird and off-putting. And yeah that's the Queen of Worms, she should be off-putting, but it's the same for Allison. It's that occasional slight incongruence of something about the art that I mean by "roughness," because I feel like it's the kind of thing that the artist could spend however long agonizing over to make it more polished, but also probably not for much gain, because it's part of what gives the art and K6BD its character. Put another way, it's like hearing the finger squeaks in an acoustic guitar recording. It's a product of the creation process, and it can be polished out, but I like it, and leaving it in can also be an artistic choice.
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Kennel posted:Is this an app issue? It's perfectly fine on phone with Chrome browser. I meant phone reading in thread/app yes
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Emzedoh posted:As for K6BD, I've been following it in real time since chapter 1 and I got to be honest, I've never had problems with pacing or characterisation or anything. I just really vibed with the setting and the supplementary writing, I guess. The overall style really matched my taste and I've never been afraid of a confusing in media res sort of opening. This is my own feelings in a nutshell. The art is pretty cool and I was super into the side stories. It all gave me confidence that the story was going towards some cool directions in terms of themes and philosophy. I think I started a bit into book 2, which we’re almost up to, and the next few scenes really hooked me in Also agreed on the side stories being good as hell. There’s one in particular that I keep returning to because it’s so satisfying (building the tower). My next three posts will just be a page each because they’re about Aesma and the masters of the universe and each one is quite long as is. Also very worth reading in case anyone is still sleeping on them And, speaking of pacing, I dunno if changing the pacing from how it is would really improve anything? We’ve established three main characters and what they can do, we’ve been introduced to the wildly alien setting, what exactly led to its current state, and have a pretty good sense of how cutthroat it is. We also know a bit about the nature of the antagonists, their threat level (extremely high), and why things are going to escalate. Allison herself hasn’t done much yet, but that in itself is establishing just how far she’s gonna have to go e: also I am curious about what issue people have with reading it on the phone. I can see everything perfectly fine on my phone on Safari of all things Kit Walker has a new favorite as of 00:02 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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I think it's an app thing, because it's also slightly blurry for me in app and I have to open the image separately and zoom in to read it
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I think also there's a big difference in expectation of you read the comic as it came out, compared to reading because everyone is telling you how awesome it is (and it is). When we read these as freshly minted pages, we weren't wondering what everyone was talking about, we weren't looking for the promised hook, we were enjoying the spectacle as spectacle and then Operant snuck in the really rad poo poo when our guard was down. Like, if you'll forgive the comparison but the amount of hype and evangelism is similar, it's impossible to experience Undertale now the same way that the people who played the demo did.
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Have even more Ranking of Kings Chapter 44              
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Uramachi Sakaba       I hate it when my heavy machinery goes feral
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In a world of lovely gamer comics and slice of life bullshit K6BD is a welcome breath of fresh air. I'm a sucker for any media that implies there is an entire history behind the events we get to see, stuff like lord of the rings, fromsoft games, that kind of thing where even if the characters are why things are occurring it's the history and the backstory that influence how events play out. Stuff that revolves entirely around the main characters and is entirely driven by their actions just feels a little hollow. See also: every drat piece of star wars media ever.
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I love KSBD but I'd say that the PYF thread style isn't how I'd recommend reading it for the first time. When I first read it I felt drawn from one page to the next by the promise of more wild visuals, and before I'd even realised it I was hundreds of pages deep and invested in the world and characters. The drip feed of a few pages a day does really sap the momentum of the comic; even now when new pages get released I prefer to build up a backlog and then binge through them all at once. 80 pages feels a lot longer reading them 6 at a time rather them letting them wash over you all at once and figuring out what's important afterwards.
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 To my mind, the most interesting thing here is that there is a place doctors can send patients when they need to be killed.  This strip is not a one-off.  chew chew chew shiver chew chew
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readingatwork posted:Have even more Ranking of Kings Thank you so much for these, i lovef this story
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Vagabong posted:I love KSBD but I'd say that the PYF thread style isn't how I'd recommend reading it for the first time. When I first read it I felt drawn from one page to the next by the promise of more wild visuals, and before I'd even realised it I was hundreds of pages deep and invested in the world and characters. The drip feed of a few pages a day does really sap the momentum of the comic; even now when new pages get released I prefer to build up a backlog and then binge through them all at once. It works for me because 1 page at a time (weekly iirc) would drive me crazy and I'd give up on it until it was done, and I don't want to binge it because then I'd skim over the art. This way lets me appreciate it a few pages at a time. Which is also true of the other comics are being posted itt tbh, but especially for K6BD for its visually dense art
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And here we have the single best one-off Achewood strip in the entire run, and the start of another knockout classic Achewood plot. 2006 was a REALLY good year for Achewood. I say "The End! No Moral!" daily.
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