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Nyaa posted:I hope Floo get a hit after this. It already did via losing its crutch statue.
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The only way to hit Floo would be to hit an actual floo card, i dont think its neccesary but theyd prob hit the cards that let you normal summon on opponents turn if they felt it neccesary
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Dec 22, 2022 21:19
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Bo1 for ranked was a mistake
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Dec 22, 2022 21:26
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Floo doesn't need a(nother) hit in the first place. Without statue it's literally just empen/raiza/apex and if your deck can't play through empen and 1 disruption more often than not, it sucks.
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Dec 22, 2022 22:40
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Syenite posted:Floo doesn't need a(nother) hit in the first place. Without statue it's literally just empen/raiza/apex and if your deck can't play through empen and 1 disruption more often than not, it sucks. But its 4 of the top 10!!! This is the end of the world and actually we need to bad all of them now
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Dec 22, 2022 22:44
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Bo1 for ranked was a mistake I can only imagine the backlash from the mobile player base if ranked was Bo3. VICTORY *Opponent's phone melted/battery drained*
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Dec 22, 2022 22:46
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While that is true, on the other hand I can feel my soul literally wilting based on the idea I would need to play against some of the decks dedicated solely to stall/annoy the opponent into quitting multiple times for every win.
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Dec 22, 2022 22:59
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I kind of like Floo where it is right now. Besides Stormwinds, the Prosperity hit actually matters. Prosperity at 1 hurts consistency, but it also encourages using Extrav. Extrav conflicts with Shifter and you will inevitably have dead cards in hand. It's the argument for why the ratios in the top Floo lists are so questionable. And I think that's actually really interesting that you have to consider the value of making sure your floodgate is alive as often as possible versus running the risk of drawing into dead cards. It's a real trade-off that you won't see in actual floodgate decks. Banning Dreaming Town kills the deck. I don't really agree with any ban that makes an entire deck useless, and while the Raiza loop is devastating it's just not amongst the most toxic cards this format. Floo is the only deck I've played with 7 pots and 9 searchers and it can still brick. It's incredibly fragile; most Floo hands cannot play through 2 handtraps (even 1 is really good on Eglen). If you run S/T removal, you can bait the Town and then just deal with 1 negate in Apex Avian. It's incredibly vulnerable to Floodgates. If you're losing to Floo a lot, change up. Play Droll or some removal. I played 3 Lightning Storm, HFD and Dark Simorgh in Floo because I do not want to lose to floodgates. And I hope MD never moves away from Bo1. I'd really rather not play against some of these Runnick decks more than once (or at all!).
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Dec 22, 2022 23:05
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TaurusOxford posted:I can only imagine the backlash from the mobile player base if ranked was Bo3. I've had so many matches where the opponent basically roped every turn because their lovely phone connection so yeah thai would still only be a benefit Also bo3 means you'll see floodgates decks less because people can just sideboard into more removal/stun disruption game 2 an 3. Which means you're just going to see the Stun decks less often because they're win rate goes down because they just lose whole matches. Even Before tear floo Was one deck in a top 16 here or there because you just lose to cards people run in their side decks anyway because they're just generally good. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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Dec 22, 2022 23:31
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Does Diamond get better match end rewards than lower ranks? Asking because I just had a win in D4 where I got 50 gems, which I’m not sure I’ve ever seen before.
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Dec 23, 2022 00:34
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Regalingualius posted:Does Diamond get better match end rewards than lower ranks? Asking because I just had a win in D4 where I got 50 gems, which I’m not sure I’ve ever seen before. Nothing to do with tiers AFAIK. I've seen 50 gem rewards in silver/gold tiers. There's a 100 gem per day cap on duel rewards anyway, with a soft cap at 80 I believe.
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Dec 23, 2022 00:58
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Yeah I think Floo is fine. The endboard of Empen + Dreaming Town gy effect + Raiza or Apex is only OK, the strength of the deck lies in its basically infinite ability to recur its cards.
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Dec 23, 2022 01:17
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So Floo is Sky Strikers, just with Stormwinds instead of Mystic Mine? A pretty solid control deck that got tons of hate for having a painful grind game and access to an incredibly unfair one-sided floodgate?
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Dec 23, 2022 01:26
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Based on the results of the top 10 and the top 100, Konami might implement more parts of OCG banlist: Grass to 2, Map to 1, Branded Fusion to 1 or 2, etc. Nonetheless, Konami has the analytics; I would hope they know what to hit or buff.
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Dec 23, 2022 01:26
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Tbh id like green to just get banned bc its not like it adds anything to any format other then...more cards to craft...oh no it will never go away
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girl dick energy posted:So Floo is Sky Strikers, just with Stormwinds instead of Mystic Mine? A pretty solid control deck that got tons of hate for having a painful grind game and access to an incredibly unfair one-sided floodgate? It's Sky Strikers with better recursion but worse control.
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Dec 23, 2022 03:36
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Please don't hit grass again, 60 card zombie decks are too much fun. Heh, grass goes brrrrrrr.
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Dec 23, 2022 05:59
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Saw something on Reddit about how they're going to be reprinting 5 or 6 of the earliest US sets early next year as an anniversary thing, could be fun acquiring a bunch of early cards, not sure if there's a retro format for that specific period like there are for slightly later ones like GOAT though
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Dec 23, 2022 07:35
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The big picks from those packs are all banned fwiw, really broken spells. Unless they're thinking of putting some old staples to 1, but no one wants delinquent duo or forceful sentry back.
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Charles Bukowski posted:The big picks from those packs are all banned fwiw, really broken spells. Unless they're thinking of putting some old staples to 1, but no one wants delinquent duo or forceful sentry back. Well yeah for regular play, but I could see this resulting in Time Wizard formats besides GOAT or Edison seeing more play due to increased availability of the cards in question, though considering there's a five pack gap between the first four packs being reprinted for this(Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon, Metal Raiders, Spell Ruler, and Pharaoh's Servant) and the fifth(Invasion of Chaos) for some weird reason(when it would have made more sense for the fifth pack for this release to be Labyrinth of Nightmare), I imagine the format that would be settled on would be either the December 2002 List(the first list to have cards from Pharaoh's Servant to be included) or either the April 2003 or May 2003 lists(but disallowing any cards from LoN) and ignoring Invasion of Chaos entirely
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Dec 23, 2022 09:47
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If i wanted to play old formats id boot up Eternal Duelist Soul again
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Empen is mystic mine if mystic mine was a vastly weaker floodgate on a vastly more vulnerable card in a deck that has to play an entire archetype to support it.Flair posted:Nonetheless, Konami has the analytics; I would hope they know what to hit or buff. When halq was legal, Konami decided the actual problem card was [every good tuner] and the only reason halq got eventually hit was because splight was good and new and they don't hit good and new archetypes. Konami does not know what to hit or buff (lol "gossip shadow is the problem card") Syenite fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Oh no, they know exactly what to hit, that's why the banlist is carefully constructed in such a way that the real problem decks are never meaningfully hit. Like you said, they won't hit stuff that's making them money cuz otherwise they don't make money from it anymore.
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Post custom cards  quote:Stardust Spark / Counter Trap quote:Herald of the Unchained Soul Syenite fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Dec 23, 2022 21:34
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Here is the current archetype breakdown of the known decklists that made it to top 100 in Stage 2:
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I'm starting to play again after a couple months of not, focusing on making a Runick deck but with hope that I can turn it into a weird dumb cross that gives people enough novelty value that they don't hate the process. I'm thinking Runick Exodia Control, using some of that weird Exodia support nobody ever uses.
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Dec 24, 2022 03:39
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If you want dumb runik control, Runik Fabled Unicore Turbo is very very funny IMO.
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Ah, Starry Knight is a very frustrating deck to build. Even morseo because this gimmicky build with Z-Arc doesn't exactly work how I want it to.
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Flair posted:Here is the current archetype breakdown of the known decklists that made it to top 100 in Stage 2: More decklists have become known:  Source: https://roadoftheking.com/master-duel-duelist-cup-2022-december/
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I’m just curious, since they come in the same pack: do Runick and Labrynth just not mix very well, aside from the obvious problem with them both running a field spell that’s majorly important to their game plan?
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https://discord.gg/cfJVQ5eZ
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They probably mix about as well as Aliens and Graydles.
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From what I can tell the main thing stopping Runick Labrynth from being an interesting combo deck is that they just don't really have any synergy. They don't really get in the way of each other beyond both wanting the backrow, but they also don't really help each other with their gameplans. You'd probably be better off either making pure Labrynth or pure Runick, because they don't really help each other enough to be worth splitting your odds of drawing one, and stand pretty well on their own. I haven't actually been able to play either of them yet, though, so I'm mostly spitballing from what I've seen.
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Yeah, I’m still a ways away from having anything even remotely resembling a Runick deck despite splurging all of my gems on their packs. And that’s without getting into the floodgates… Just wondering: if they limit/semi-limit something, do you get full points refunded for every copy over the legal amount?
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The packs are often more thematically linked than mechanically effective when combined.
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Lord_Magmar posted:The packs are often more thematically linked than mechanically effective when combined. For secret packs, at least. In terms of the limited-time packs like the Runick/Labrynth one it's usually just that they released near each other in real life. With Labrynth and Runick they came out in the exact same set, Tactical Masters. The Tactical Masters archetypes actually do have a commonality, but it's more abstractly thematic; all three archetypes that originated there are based on different video games. Vaylantz is an SRPG like Fire Emblem, Runick is a first-person western RPG (most strongly pulling from Skyrim), and Labrynth is apparently a very specific reference to Tecmo's Deception series.
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I've been getting some practice in with Fluffals today and man, when that deck bricks, it BRICKS. Not got much gas going first, either. Any tips for consistency, maybe some other link monsters that might help? Here's what I have rn: code:Octo is a bit of an experiment that hasn't exactly worked well, but hasn't totally failed either, unlike the Edge Imp Saw I ran for exactly one solo game. It would probably be my first cut. I never use the Frightfur Sheep for anything other than Whaling into the grave to enable Repair's first effect, it's mostly leftover from when I was using Instant Fusion. Nightmary is literally never my first choice to summon, but my thinking is it might possibly be useful as a wall going first. Dabir fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Dec 27, 2022 |
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Dec 27, 2022 03:45
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Eldlich can be useful to splash in, it synergizes well with Toy Vendor and can be a decent beat stick. Honestly lack of consistency is an issue I've never really solved either.
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 Floos have remained largely untouched, and semi-limiting Pot of Duality is probably more for Runick rather than Floos.
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Every Floo list is on Duality, so it hurts a few decks. Card of Demise to 2 is a slap on the wrist for Runick, but I admit it is a really fun card in Dinomorphia.
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