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Organ Fiend posted:Once again, I submit that Canada's flag needs a slight modification. canada had the ice nazi uniforms during the sochi olympics lol 
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Ukraine could attempt to use the news of immunity for Polish militants to imply that it was them who sabotaged Minsk accord ceasefire and pullback plans, and express renewed interest in sticking to the federalization plan (or whatever it is that the Ukrainian people find agreeable). Not that I believe the Ukrainian government has the interests of the Ukrainian people at heart.
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that guy has really interesting opinions on immigrants and refugees https://globalnews.ca/news/4903246/immigration-refugee-board-dr-no-rehired-asylum-claims/ http://www.infoukes.com/newpathway/Page839.htm
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Dec 24, 2022 04:29
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yellowcar posted:that guy has really interesting opinions on immigrants and refugees This makes me want to scream as the Ukrainian community literally conspired to sneak war criminals into Canada: "Shortly after the termination of hostilities in Europe, General Pawlo Shandruk, the former leader of a Nazi- sponsored Ukrainian 'national liberation committee,' contacted Arch- bishop Iwan Buchko, a high-ranking prelate in Rome who specialized in Ukrainian affairs. Describing the former SS soldiers as good Catholics and fervent anti-communists, Shandruk implored Buchko to intervene on their behalf. The archbishop agreed to try. During a special audience with Pope Pius XII, Buchko pleaded the division's case. The pontiff was very sympathetic and promised to contact the appropriate British authorities. As a result of the Vatican's efforts, London agreed to change the Ukrainians' POW status to that of surrendered enemy personnel, a seemingly minor distinction, but one that freed the British from their repatriation obligations under the Yalta agreement." "Analysis of correspondence between the Home Office and the government of Canada, and of letters from the voluntary organizations in Canada and the United Kingdom that were lobbying for the ‘Galicia’s’ civilianization, explains the nature of the negotiations that led to the ex-enemy personnel being given the status of civilians and allowed to live and work in the West. The ‘Galicia’ men were being cast by the Central Co-ordinating Committee of Ukrainian Organizations simply as soldiers who ‘fought against Soviet Russia on the German Eastern Front’; and the narrative featuring the ‘Galicia’ as a Wehrmacht Division was being used by officials both in Canada and the UK." "The positive narrative portraying the former ‘Galicians’ as an anti-Soviet Wehrmacht unit was successful in at least securing negotiations with the Canadian government about the potential settlement of the Division members in Canada. This was the case only, however, until the Canadian authority representatives started to pay closer attention to the group in question, and realized that the Division had had no connection to the Wehrmacht, but was, in fact, part of the Waffen SS. Canadian immigration law of the time did not permit accepting former combatants who had served in the German Armed Forces voluntarily. The Memorandum for the Cabinet Committee on Immigration Policy stated that ‘[u]nder existing procedure aliens of Allied or Neutral nationality who served with the Enemy Forces during the war are not admitted to Canada unless they can establish that such service was compulsory. The group of Ukrainians served voluntarily.’ The policy thus stated clearly that Ukrainian men who served in the ‘Galicia’ were not to be permitted to enter Canada." "Despite the vigorous criticism from different organizations of the pos- sibility of allowing the ‘Galicians’ to enter Canada, and the refusals of the Canadian government to allow the Division men to migrate to Canada, the lobbying efforts continued on both official and personal levels. The Canadian government was ‘under considerable pressure to admit a number of these aliens from the United Kingdom’. The High Commissioner for Canada in the UK wrote to the Secretary of State for External Affairs in August 1950, quoting a letter from the Foreign Office which was written in defence of the ‘Galicia’ men. This letter repeats the rhetoric of the Division being well-behaved and suitable for integration into the Western society....Thus, even in 1950 and even at the level of the Foreign Office and the High Commissioner, there was misinformation produced and reproduced as to the nature of the Waffen SS ‘Galicia’. This misleading information was used to pressurize the Canadian government into allowing the ‘Galicia’ men into Canada." "Taking a page out of CCCRR's book, CURB adopted the strategy of trying to portray the Ukrainians' wartime service in the best possible light. A key element in that strategy was to minimize the division's SS affiliation. In his early dealings with the immigration bureaucrats, Pan- chuk referred to the division by its last and non-SS designation (1st Division of the Ukrainian National Army) and alleged that the use of SS terminology in its case was little more than Soviet propaganda. He also glossed over the voluntary nature of its recruitment, focusing instead on those Ukrainians who had joined as an alternative to forced labour." "If the immigration bureaucrats thought the matter was closed, they were mistaken. CURB and the Ukrainian-Canadian lobby continued their campaign to get all or at least part of the 14th SS admitted. Aware that Ottawa's main objection to the division was the apparently voluntary character of its recruitment, those lobbying on its behalf changed their tactics. Henceforth, no effort would be spared in advancing the claim that the rank and file of the 14th SS had been 'forcibly conscripted.' The change in tactics evoked no sympathy in Ottawa. Indeed, the immigration bureaucrats began to betray a cer- tain weariness and annoyance with the lobbying on behalf of the Ukrainian ex-soldiers." "The civilianization of the 14th SS seemed to galvanize the Ukrainian-Canadian lobby. In stories run in community newspapers in Winnipeg and Edmonton, UCC heralded the British government's action. More importantly, the organization announced that Ottawa was prepared to issue visas to members of the division who were able to produce evidence attesting to their civilian status. This was not the case, of course. Notwithstanding the civilianization of the Ukrainians, there had been no change in policy on the Canadian side. The response of the immigration bureaucrats to the erroneous reports was swift and angry. Denouncing UCC for its apparent attempt to embarrass the government, the superintendent of immigration in western Canada advised that, at a minimum, some sort of retraction be issued. Unwilling to alienate its Ukrainian-Canadian constituency, the government did not publicly rebuke UCC." "The new civilian status of the Ukrainians did not lead to a lifting of the ban, but it may have been of some assistance in helping individual members of the 14th SS gain admission to Canada. At least a few of the Ukrainian veterans had been able to obtain IRO sponsorship by claiming that they had been civilians during the war. Their success convinced Panchuk that the same tactic might be used to slip some of the men through Canadian immigration screening. 'If applications are made now without any mention of the fact that they were previously confined as PWs,' he advised a representative of the Ukrainian- Canadian lobby, 'no questions are asked.'There is no way of determining how many former members of the 14th SS evaded detection in this manner. But the number may have been significant"
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Dec 24, 2022 05:02
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drat they goin' 40k
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Ardennes posted:It is also why I am skeptical they can't touch the printing presses since something has got to give. Mass austerity, industrial collapse, cutting taxes/revenue is going to only leave a larger and larger fiscal hole, and unless the West actually pony's up the dough in a big way (more than they have been that includes with the latest US bill) the numbers don't match up. Neoliberal total war is a contradiction. To fight off Russia, Ukraine has to orient its entire society towards supporting the army, which obviously requires enormous state intervention in the economy. But ideologically the end goal is to decommunize and become a shambling lobotomized EU country with a government too weak to actually do anything. Maybe they'll make some concessions to reality when things become critical (even in wartime these reforms will be enormously unpopular, and regardless they undermine their ability to resist), but I'm not convinced.
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Dec 24, 2022 05:23
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Frosted Flake posted:This makes me want to scream as the Ukrainian community literally conspired to sneak war criminals into Canada: now, now the canadian government really really wanted those the war criminals anyway (to crush domestic left wing ukrainian-canadian orgs) so many things were overlooked/white-washed
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Dec 24, 2022 05:34
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Ukraine could attempt to use the news of immunity for Polish militants to imply that it was them who sabotaged Minsk accord ceasefire and pullback plans, and express renewed interest in sticking to the federalization plan (or whatever it is that the Ukrainian people find agreeable). Not that I believe the Ukrainian government has the interests of the Ukrainian people at heart. the country's been invaded. the minsk accords are clearly off the table. integrating the so-called peoples' republic militias into the national army is obviously impossible at this point. that was a plausible way to go in 2015, but we're far past that now. if they cannot achieve victory by sheer force of arms - which imo is not likely - they will have to figure out some way to justify a ceasefire of some kind short of their stated war aims, however, and blaming the poles might be useful for that. poland is no natural ally of ukraine, and if they can keep up the goodwill from the US and not make the americans choose between them despite internal animosity, it's a good strategy. the issue, as ever, is that ukraine is now totally dependent on the US and its attendant institutions to not fall apart as a state. they have very limited ability to do anything else than what the americans indicate that they want them to do - and that is keep fighting.
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Dec 24, 2022 05:40
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  lol there's our boy again
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sum posted:Neoliberal total war is a contradiction. To fight off Russia, Ukraine has to orient its entire society towards supporting the army, which obviously requires enormous state intervention in the economy. But ideologically the end goal is to decommunize and become a shambling lobotomized EU country with a government too weak to actually do anything. Maybe they'll make some concessions to reality when things become critical (even in wartime these reforms will be enormously unpopular, and regardless they undermine their ability to resist), but I'm not convinced. I would argue it is a little too late beyond more conscription. The infrastructure damage they have taken isn't going to be easy to repair in the short term and the economic/fiscal damage they have taken is permanent. They can't nationalize anything non-Russian. As far as ordinating society toward the army, I think on the propaganda side they already have the lever pulled to the max. I do think gutting wages and social benefits will eventually have its toll though along with the other issues average Ukrainians are dealing with. We will see how it goes but even if the frontline is stable I don't think things are looking positive. I would argue perhaps the Russians don't really feel need to go in a rushed manner and perhaps indeed it would make more sense to wait until Spring. ----- One admission that has come up in Western social media that has been a long in coming is that "not all tanks (including Soviet ones) are useless" with the arrival of Slovenian T-55s on the frontlines. There has even been a little bit of a recant about Russia modernizing T-62s, and the gist of the argument is that even an old tank is useful with a thermal sight and there I agree. (Admittedly, I think the T-62 is just a much better target for modernization than the T-55 due to having a significantly more powerful 115mm smoothbore gun which makes it much more competitive on the battlefield.) Also, there some recognition finally that ERA is actually pretty useful and it does improve survivability. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 06:44 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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Dec 24, 2022 06:06
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yellowcar posted:that guy has really interesting opinions on immigrants and refugees quote:he said Canada had become a haven for “assorted terrorists, drug peddlers and war criminals.”  edit: Maybe I shouldn't say anything though, this guy could have been the ratline for a bunch of Ukrainians leaving the collapsed soviet union. Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 07:19 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/ettingermentum/status/1606523200912982016 Funniest way the war could end.
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The thread is vindicated in the book on "Putin's Wars" that just came out.Not the Generals' War posted:The irony is that the same Western analysts who were sure Russia was indeed going to invade, were also sure that it would win, and win quickly. The consensus seemed to be that after two weeks, while there might well be continuing resistance by guerrillas, the Ukrainian military would be destroyed and the country essentially in Moscow’s hands. It didn’t quite work out like that. Police Action, Not War posted:It seems clear that the initial strategy was cooked up by Putin and his inner circle, none of whom had any real military experience, and all of whom believed – or did not dare contradict – his fundamental and fatally flawed assumption that the Ukrainians lacked the spirit to fight. He called the invasion a ‘special military operation’ rather than a war not just for reasons of spin but also because this was how he was thinking of it. More like a police action: arrest Zelensky and his ‘neo-Nazi’ government, impose a puppet regime, and spend a week or two putting down any small-scale holdouts and dispersing some protests. Perhaps the western part of the country, across the Dnepr River, would not be willing to accept the new order, but most of Ukraine, in his vision, would quickly fall. Kiev to Donbas posted:At first, the Russians were clearly expecting to make rapid advances on all fronts. From Russian and Belarusian soil, forces moved against Kyiv in the north. From the Donbas ‘people’s republics’ and Russia, columns drove towards Ukraine’s second city, Kharkiv in the north-east, as well as along the coast of the Azov Sea in the south-east. Their goals seemed to be to encircle the Ukrainians of the Joint Forces Operation, who were dug in along the Donbas front, and to connect with the battalions pouring in from Crimea, which were heading both east towards Mariupol and west, aiming to take the major port of Odessa. Meanwhile, naval forces blockaded the Black Sea coast and positioned themselves to support a potential assault on Odessa. It often bogs down into lib and natsec ghoul talking points, but the rough outlines agree with the discussion here and in other places we've seen emerge over the past few months. "Nonetheless, there was a clear sense of greater realism and professionalism on the ground, even if from a pretty low base. The war became increasingly one of artillery, an area in which the Russians continue to have the advantage – at least until enough Western guns and counter-battery systems can be deployed – and of slow, methodical progress rather than over-ambitious gambits". "As of writing, at the beginning of June, even if Putin acknowledges that this ‘special military operation’ is truly a war and orders a partial or full mobilization of his reserves, it seems hard to see him being able to take and hold all of the Donbas, let alone anything more. That move would be politically dangerous, generating an inevitable backlash at home in a population still being told that this is a limited conflict. Furthermore, although in theory there are more than a million Russians on the reserve lists, the military would have serious trouble mustering, training, arming and deploying more than 100,000–150,000 men, and that would take some three months from any decision being made... there is no doubt that this many fresh troops would make a difference on the battlefield. However, they would also take heavy losses, and hence Putin continues, as of writing, to dither." "Yet the Russian military’s current problems with manpower stem from the fact that it is still fielding a peacetime army against a fully mobilized Ukraine. While Kyiv is essentially at full stretch, Moscow still has options as Russia has more than three times the population, and resources still untapped. Although it is difficult to regain momentum lost at the outset, it would be a mistake to write the Russians off too soon"
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you idiot tankies see swastikas everywhere
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Clever troll and grift
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I mean, Zelenskyy decided to fight because he didn't know Ukraine had no resource to fight Russia in a long war and there is no rebuilding after the war machine drag through the industrial area. He still doesn't know. His profession is an actor. He didn't study the other stuff in school. He had no idea the US abandoned Southern Vietnam government and will do it again when the time is right. Kissinger negotiated with China 2 years before US walked away from Vietnam.
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Dec 24, 2022 08:05
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Zelensky really was the absolute perfect guy for this. I guess an oligarch had already identified that, which is how he got there, but drat.
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https://twitter.com/CaesarianHoxha/status/1606432130048851968
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The part about mobilization didn't come off, although arguably in June it would have probably been more chaotic situation. It does seem that certain myths are starting to unravel slowly though. Artillery indeed turned out to be useful, and T-62s are not necessarily rubbish. That the Russians did attempt some form of deep-battle but came in quarter cocked, and Bayraktar was just another medium drone not a super-weapon. In fact, it turned out that numbers, firepower, and industrial warfare very much still matter. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 09:22 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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Dec 24, 2022 08:25
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What myth writer said artillery wasn’t useful?
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Dec 24, 2022 08:42
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Frosted Flake posted:A state that can’t levy taxes or provide its own defence isn’t sovereign anyways, but this got me thinking. joining the west when multipolarity is just around the corner lol.
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Dec 24, 2022 08:47
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Frosted Flake posted:It collapsed because it didn’t realize that levis and bananas represented a system even more red in tooth and claw instead of freedom. https://twitter.com/creation247/status/1606315521183342592 it's so funny that the right-wing position is now "exporting Levi's to the whole world was a bad thing, actually"
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Dec 24, 2022 09:02
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they are all similar dresses? Like whats the difference between the swedish and the italian one?
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Dec 24, 2022 09:03
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at least use the national dress costumes that people haven’t worn since the 1750s for the before picture
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Dec 24, 2022 09:04
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also half of them are movie costumes lol.
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Tankbuster posted:joining the west when multipolarity is just around the corner lol. I was going to ask you if maybe the “Imperial” identity and communal violence against enemies close to home could tie in with Martial Races and the Punjab but I think that’s a stretch.
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Dec 24, 2022 09:08
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given that punjab was a hotbed of indian independence that kept being radicalized in a leftward direction just like bengal and eventually the rest of the raj - lol no. Like the vast majority of punjabis were sunni muslim peasants.
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Dec 24, 2022 09:10
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Tankbuster posted:they are all similar dresses? Like whats the difference between the swedish and the italian one? The difference is that all the women in the top panels are correctly performing femininity for male consumption, but the woman in the bottom panel is not. The message here is not actually about clothing.
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HazCat posted:The difference is that all the women in the top panels are correctly performing femininity for male consumption, but the woman in the bottom panel is not. I don't think the ones at the bottom are feminine at all.
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mlmp08 posted:What myth writer said artillery wasn’t useful? quote:Russia has relied heavily in Ukraine on long-range attacks with unguided weapons, like howitzers and artillery rockets. By comparison, Western military forces have almost entirely converted their arsenals to use guided rockets, missiles and bombs, and they have even developed kits that can turn regular artillery shells into precision weapons. Russia may be limited by sanctions and export controls affecting its ability to restock modern weapons, and much of its precision-guided arsenal may now have been exhausted. The first two sentences are technically not wrong but the implication is one is effective while the other is (and it is a good thing that the West has few non-precision shells on hand) and the third sentence is laughably wrong. We know artillery in the sense of even non-precision HE shells supplied in a regular manner are effective, artillery as a whole is effective. quote:These Cold War-era, unguided Russian weapons have the capacity to shoot well beyond the range of the human eye — many miles past the point where a soldier could see the eventual target. To use these weapons lawfully at long range, Russia would have to use drones or soldiers known as “forward observers” to watch where the weapons hit, and then radio back corrections. There was little evidence that they were doing so until recently. Orcs don't know what drones are and are using "ww2" style tactics This is June 19th 2022 NYT We know they have been using spotter drones since the beginning of the war, and their tactics weren't "from the Second World War." While the West has degraded its use of non-precision artillery in many senses, it hasn't been been replaced by precision weapons and the Russian use of non-precision HE has been clearly effective as well. Also, it is nearly 2023 and we are still waiting for the Russians to run out of precision munitions. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 09:41 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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I mean, ethnic dress disappeared as textile industry and retail became more and more concentrated in both geography and ownership, and needed to lose specific ornamentation and develop broad appeal for mass markets. It’s always capitalism at the root of it but the furthest right wingers get - maybe - is “media”. If they thought about if for even a second they could get on board, you know local textile industries and shops go hand and hand with vibrant regional culture, but they never do.
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Dec 24, 2022 09:16
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drat you need to do so much reading to keep up with this thread I know far too much about western countries importing right wing diasporas now
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Frosted Flake posted:I mean, ethnic dress disappeared as textile industry and retail became more and more concentrated in both geography and ownership, and needed to lose specific ornamentation and develop broad appeal for mass markets. most of africa still rules for fashion because they never got absorbed into the levi's ussr and east asia thing
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I didn’t even get to the part about Vatican involvement, for example the Papal Envoy that swayed the British being a former member of the 14th SS. Or, what seems like overlapping conspiracies in the Vatican, British Government and Canadian Diaspora, who may have not been aware of the others’ existence, so there were parallel ratlines and parallel subversions of the Canadian government. Or that parts of the Canadian government had a secret meeting with the UK, so possibly that’s four conspiracies, and then the official importation. Or the bizarre 1982 ruling that contravened Nuremberg. Or our intelligence linked #GirlBoss Deputy PM getting up to God knows what today, like personally making phone calls without the PM or Cabinet to get Poroshenko out of jail. lol I mean, it’s so over the top in places you’d think it was ODESSA.
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Frosted Flake posted:lol I mean, it’s so over the top in places you’d think it was ODESSA. look the oil fields have provided jobs for highschool-level grads that have never seen wealth before. shame they use it on F250s
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Endman posted:drat you need to do so much reading to keep up with this thread learning about all the different flavours of idiot right wing nationalistic ethnic groups that fight each other like they're a Pokemon element counter chart
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Ardennes posted:I would say the context is "if we needed to we should just bump it to 10% and completely crush the Russians." It is the assumption that not Ukrainian lives are meaningless you are keep on inching the nob higher to get a grander result. The greatest loss from this conflict was decided in the spring when it turned out the sanction regime of the West means absolutely nothing against an industrialized economy of a peer
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Военный Осведомитель posted:
more mtlb waffentrager content ZOKA's Channel posted:
quadcopters evacuating damaged quadcopters from the battlefield
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Sometimes I forget it's the future now but then I see that there are gopnik privates enlisted in the recovery platoon of a drone battalion and I remember
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