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Grondoth posted:It's really amazing to me, and I don't know how there's so many of these. There was only a few "Actually, the Empire were the good guys" op-eds. How are people still making them? I hope this answers your question: MonsieurChoc posted:Truly there are few things as bad as british op-ed writers.
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Dec 24, 2022 19:18
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Grondoth posted:It's really amazing to me, and I don't know how there's so many of these. There was only a few "Actually, the Empire were the good guys" op-eds. How are people still making them? a lot of opinions are terrible, and there are a lot of people who can write MonsieurChoc posted:Good vid. Truly there are few things as bad as british op-ed writers. Also this. (Though German op-ed writers come close)
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Dec 24, 2022 19:21
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Cosmonaut Marcus on the LOTR movies that wisely cut out Thom Bombadil, Glorfindel, and all the awful singing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XawG-iLjYes
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Dec 24, 2022 19:48
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Libluini posted:Also this. (Though German op-ed writers come close) The people of this thread are very lucky they don't know about Precht.
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Dec 24, 2022 22:02
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Cosmonaut Marcus on the LOTR movies that wisely cut out Thom Bombadil, Glorfindel, and all the awful singing. Gonna call Hobbits "Crackers with eating disorders" from now on. Thanks, Marcus.
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Dec 24, 2022 22:54
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Grondoth posted:It's really amazing to me, and I don't know how there's so many of these. There was only a few "Actually, the Empire were the good guys" op-eds. How are people still making them? Of minor note in the same vein you can find "Johnny was the hero in Karate Kid" which I believe we get from Barney of How I Met Your Money of all people that got turned into 'true.' And this was well before Cobra Kai.
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Dec 24, 2022 23:13
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Cosmonaut Marcus on the LOTR movies that wisely cut out Thom Bombadil, Glorfindel, and all the awful singing. I also remember some people being pissed that the Scouring of the Shire was cut out as well (other than a brief mention as something that could happen in Fellowship), but like, after the never-ending endings sweepstakes, thank GOD it got cut.
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Dec 24, 2022 23:22
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Grondoth posted:It's really amazing to me, and I don't know how there's so many of these. There was only a few "Actually, the Empire were the good guys" op-eds. How are people still making them? It is because these people are also petty and greedy. As a psychological defence mechanism, however, they use words like "concerned" and "thrifty". A Christmas Carol is as obvious and naked a criticism of their worldview as have ever been written. The message of the novel is so clearly and profoundly good that it cannot be argued against; hence, they must argue that the target of that message was simply misplaced (them).
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Dec 25, 2022 00:33
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Now that I think about it, LOTR, Star Wars, and stupid loving wizard schoolboy all had indulgent and padded prequel trilogies that can be mercifully skipped. I can't draw any further parallels since I only finished the Star Wars one. I never noticed at all in Fellowship that the three petrified trolls show up, since they are never pointed out. I'm sure the 4 hour extended cuts explain every cryptic detail in the background, but I never bothered since these movies can't be improved simply by having more of them.
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Dec 25, 2022 00:36
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The trolls are explicitly pointed out by Sam in thr extended edition.
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Dec 25, 2022 00:51
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I mean, the Lord of the Rings trilogy is the *sequal* to the Hobbit, not the other way around. = P But, yeah, the Hobbit trilogy was a Mistake. There is a good story there, but the pressures to make it a trilogy from the higher ups, the significantly less pre-production time, and poor decisions when it came to adapting it made it Not Good. The Star Wars sequals had a good story, but it's execution was bad. ( The lightsaber battles are top tier tho, fight me. ) The Harry Potter prequals... gently caress, I don't even think the story idea was good. Like, how do you gently caress up Wizard Steve Irwin?
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Dec 25, 2022 00:55
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we have to stop grindelwald from stopping the holocaust
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Dec 25, 2022 01:04
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:we have to stop grindelwald from stopping the holocaust So he can... have his own! I see. Well done, JK.
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Dec 25, 2022 01:08
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Twincityhacker posted:
While this has now become the accepted understanding of the Prequels, the Sequels will never achieve this. There was a clear story trying to be told in 1-3, a story of decaying institutions being blind to the totalitarian takeover that they were aiding, the story of an ancient order unable to handle its internal contradictions, the story of an ambitious young man afraid of loss coming to believe that the only way to do what he wanted to do was by acts of cruelty. It's about the fall of a grand republic to fascism, of a hero to villiany. I'm pretty sure there isn't an actual story told through Disney's attempt at a follow up.
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Dec 25, 2022 01:13
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the story of the sequels is about remembering things from the original trilogy but not building off it
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Dec 25, 2022 01:15
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Force Awakens and Last Jedi are about being shaped by our past and heritage, and learning and growing from it. Rise of Skywalker is about making sure people of colour, especially dem ay-juns, should be relegated to the background, lest they get in the way of the precious white people that us non-whites must all worship because they are THE WHITE PEOPLE, and how we should absolutely listen to the hysterical ranting of white supremacists because they clearly all know best when it comes to us uppity minorities. And as a person who is partially yellow, it is also my duty to say "solly solly waito peepuru, solly solly," while bowing and making sure we are in the background never to be seen.
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Dec 25, 2022 01:43
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edogawa rando posted:Rise of Skywalker is about making sure people of colour, especially dem ay-juns, should be relegated to the background, lest they get in the way of the precious white people that us non-whites must all worship because they are THE WHITE PEOPLE, and how we should absolutely listen to the hysterical ranting of white supremacists because they clearly all know best when it comes to us uppity minorities. And as a person who is partially yellow, it is also my duty to say "solly solly waito peepuru, solly solly," while bowing and making sure we are in the background never to be seen. With a garnish of "the only way somebody could ACKTUALLY be special is because they were a nepo baby the same as the director who is also a nepo baby."
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Dec 25, 2022 01:57
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I haven't seen the sequels, can someone explain why so many people try to paper over what The Last Jedi apparently did when the actual black lead of the film publicly vented his frustrations and negative feelings towards what happened in movie 2 and I'm pretty sure that was the one that started shipping the female lead with the incel school shooter??? lol
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Dec 25, 2022 02:13
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God bless that homophobic slug from Star Wars 9. Marvel Comics once announced that the writer of an upcoming spider-man comic would be... JJ Abrams' 20-year-old son. Joy. I bet the mystery box his grandfather left him actually contains a half-empty Jack Daniels and a sack of French porn mags (slightly moist but still legible),
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Dec 25, 2022 02:14
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Rise of Skywalker is interesting to me solely as a case study in absolute studio-led incompetence. Every single part of it was so obviously a terrible idea it could be seen from space and yet ten thousand people were dragged into writing, rewriting, shooting, and producing something even more pandering and soulless than Ready Player One that was only remarkable because it was supposed to be the capstone to the largest franchise in the world. Absolutely wild, hellish stuff. I don’t even care about Star Wars that much but god what I wouldn’t give for a total uncensored step by step tell-all on what the gently caress happened. The production of RoS, that’s the true crime doc I want to see.
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Dec 25, 2022 02:19
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Perfect Potato posted:I haven't seen the sequels, can someone explain why so many people try to paper over what The Last Jedi apparently did when the actual black lead of the film publicly vented his frustrations and negative feelings towards what happened in movie 2 and I'm pretty sure that was the one that started shipping the female lead with the incel school shooter??? lol On the first matter, Boyega is absolutely welcome to frustrations with his character arc. However, the loudest and least legitimate criticism of TLJ is grievance about Luke Skywalker being a flawed character and white men and their legacies not being centered in the power fantasy. As a result, most defenders of the film focus on defending those artistic choices, and Finn's sidelining ends up itself sidelined. As for the "incel shipping" argument, there's two responses. First, it's impossible and unreasonable to judge TLJ on its approach to "Reylo" when it literally does not conclude their story and also does not have a thematic sequel concluding it. People bring their interpretations of that dynamic to the movie and judge the movie based on how it adheres to those interpretations. Secondly, it is not the job of films to model healthy relationships. An entertainingly toxic relationship is a valid creative decision. Syril Karn and Dedra Meero in Andor are profoundly toxic, evil people who are awful for each other, but it's very fun and artistically valid to portray and explore that dynamic to any end the author desires.
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Dec 25, 2022 02:24
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Perfect Potato posted:I haven't seen the sequels, can someone explain why so many people try to paper over what The Last Jedi apparently did when the actual black lead of the film publicly vented his frustrations and negative feelings towards what happened in movie 2 and I'm pretty sure that was the one that started shipping the female lead with the incel school shooter??? lol TLJ honestly gives him the most to do without any fakeouts like TFA but it does so by shuffling him off into a walled-off subplot that's ultimately pretty meaningless narratively. All the movies kinda screw him over, TLJ just cemented pushing him from stuff that matters or succeeding at anything.
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Dec 25, 2022 02:25
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Perfect Potato posted:I haven't seen the sequels, can someone explain why so many people try to paper over what The Last Jedi apparently did when the actual black lead of the film publicly vented his frustrations and negative feelings towards what happened in movie 2 and I'm pretty sure that was the one that started shipping the female lead with the incel school shooter??? lol In TLJ she ends up rejecting him categorically when it becomes clear he hasn't changed. Finn's plotline does receive criticism but the movie gives him a lot of screentime and his stuff is important to the themes the movie wants to convey.
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Dec 25, 2022 02:28
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The sequel series somehow managed to replicate all of the flaws of serial fan fiction and light novels, but with movies costing hundreds of millions of dollars. They're not a story so much as word count obligations with no planning given to a greater narrative. Even the "best" one 8 is only really good as an episode in an ongoing star wars tv show inexplicably shown in theaters rather than on tv. Tragically the show it would hypothetically be a part of doesn't exist.
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Dec 25, 2022 02:28
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Yeah it turns out it was a real dumb idea to make a "trilogy" with literally no planning ahead of time as to what the actual trilogy would be about and just have different directors come in and do whatever they want.
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Dec 25, 2022 02:33
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Perfect Potato posted:I haven't seen the sequels, can someone explain why so many people try to paper over what The Last Jedi apparently did when the actual black lead of the film publicly vented his frustrations and negative feelings towards what happened in movie 2 and I'm pretty sure that was the one that started shipping the female lead with the incel school shooter??? lol ...I did not hear that John Boygera hated his role in The Last Jedi. ( I tend to avoid interviews, so not surprised I did not hear about it. ) Though since the whole plot could have been cut since it accomplished nothing - the most charitable interpretation is that showing "sometimes the heroes fail" and "force users can be anyone because one of the horse stable slaves is shown doing telekinesis."
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Dec 25, 2022 02:42
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TLJ is an absolute mess execution-wise. The ideas are on paper the best of the ST but almost none of it is actually pulled off well. And yeah casino planet loving sucked, on top of it essentially being superfluous to the larger story it just lazily repeats Finn's arc from TFA amd the resolution is that he learns the lesson he already learned in the last movie again. Also lmao at him needing multiple lectures about "war bad and exploitive" when his backstory is literally being a child soldier.
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Dec 25, 2022 02:49
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Finn got hosed over in the force awakens Also I don’t care if boyega hated it. That’s fine. I fuckin love it what’s he gonna do about that
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Dec 25, 2022 03:16
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It's ok to like bad things, he won't stop you.
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Dec 25, 2022 03:17
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I’m not a coward enough to call things I like bad for nonsense social points. To me TLJ is great.
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Dec 25, 2022 03:20
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Ok.
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Dec 25, 2022 03:24
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yep
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Dec 25, 2022 03:52
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Reset the clock
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Dec 25, 2022 04:10
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It's like Whamageddon. You last a few days, you get cocky and you think you're going to go the whole of December without hearing Last Christmas, but then you're caught off guard and you *JUST* don't make it, right as you can see the finish line. It's Whamhalla all over again. Anyway, have a holly jolly Christmas you lot.
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Dec 25, 2022 04:18
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~Last Star Wars derail, I gave you my heart. ~The very next day, you gave it away...
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Dec 25, 2022 04:31
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CelticPredator posted:I’m not a coward enough to call things I like bad for nonsense social points. To me TLJ is great. edogawa rando posted:Star Wars is stupid, but if we’re meant to hate stupid things, then our parents would have abandoned us as children.
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Dec 25, 2022 04:33
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the last jedi is the only mainline star wars movie i've never seen and at this point i've heard so many conflicting things about i'm not sure it actually exists
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Dec 25, 2022 04:38
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Twincityhacker posted:~Last Star Wars derail, I gave you my heart.
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Dec 25, 2022 04:39
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Andor
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Dec 25, 2022 04:39
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gesundheit
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Dec 25, 2022 04:40
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