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BabyFur Denny posted:But the Google password manager does all that? It's literally part of Chrome, so it fails on the first item on my list... Maybe it's improved since I last used it but how do I manually generate a password to use in an app? First thing I'm trying and either it can't do that or I can't find it. Where are the rest of the features you said exist? I'm trying this on android and so far I've seen the security breach one which is nice, but most the other seem to be missing still. Look if you want to use Google's solution then go for it. It seems 'fine' but there is a reason that companies like mine ban browser password managers from use and require password managers like bitwarden/1Password. Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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Dec 24, 2022 09:30
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Great, that stupid adblock browser that started showing ads is uninstalled and chrome is disabled. Now I got firefox android with ublock extension and it's looking like a real slick setup. I use this for all mobile youtube watching since youtube is literally unbearable without it. And I will never ever pay youtube for anything.
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MrNemo posted:As a UK recessional diver, thank you for showing me what some of my compatriots think of us I get strong autistic fixation to the point of getting carried away and losing track of your original motivation vibes from it. (from being autistic and knowing intimately how that goes)
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Mega Comrade posted:It's literally part of Chrome, so it fails on the first item on my list... It's not just part of chrome. I don't know what exactly you're doing wrong but it has no problems generating, storing and auto filling app passwords for me. The password manager also requires additional authentication to retrieve your password store. It works just fine and tbh I trust google way more to keep my things secure than LastPass/1password and co.
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Dec 24, 2022 10:23
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I was able to sign into my google account on firefox and access my passwords from there. I don't trust any password managed to be honest, but google made it so easy and I am lazy.
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Dec 24, 2022 10:38
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BabyFur Denny posted:It's not just part of Chrome? quote:I don't know what exactly you're doing wrong but it has no problems generating, storing and auto filling app passwords for me. Dunno either. quote:The password manager also requires additional authentication to retrieve your password store. I see it's added on device encryption which is good. But why is this optional and off by default? quote:It works just fine and tbh I trust google way more to keep my things secure than LastPass/1password and co. For you maybe. I sometimes need to create a password with strict rules. Maybe this feature is in the desktop chrome version but it's not in the android one. I have tons of secure notes, where is that? It's barebones and behind every other manager on the market. As for trusting Google more than the other companies, why? Cos Google pinky promises it's secure? Are they using Aes-128? 256? Maybe they are using xchacha20!? Who knows cos it doesn't say, and they don't give me an option to choose either.
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BabyFur Denny posted:It's not just part of chrome. Ok then what is the link to the exe or dmg or whatever file of google password manager so that I can download it and check it out? Oh it doesn’t exist. Because it’s literally just part of Chrome, and not everybody wants to install Chrome or a browser when all they need is a password manager. Why is this so hard or unbelievable?
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His Divine Shadow posted:Great, that stupid adblock browser that started showing ads is uninstalled and chrome is disabled. Now I got firefox android with ublock extension and it's looking like a real slick setup. I use this for all mobile youtube watching since youtube is literally unbearable without it. And I will never ever pay youtube for anything. NewPipe is pretty great if you're on Android.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I have them all written in a little book I keep in a drawer. If someone is physically rooting through my stuff I'm hosed anyway. I have a specialty business card printer I use for all my logins. Then I put them all in a rolodex like it's the 60s. Security so old fashioned that Firefox's spellcheck doesn't even recognise it as a word. But yeah, if anyone is at the point where they're rummaging through my rolodex, then all my poo poo's compromised anyway.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:as much as 'mostly harmless' isn't my cup of tea, it's absolutely wild that douglas adams called the poo poo show around trying to securely authenticating your identity, and how it will inevitably lead to all your biometrics and passwords eventually being combined into an easy to use single point of failure like 30 years ago  1995, but close enough.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Ok then what is the link to the exe or dmg or whatever file of google password manager so that I can download it and check it out? Nobody forces you to use it if it's not suitable for your use case. The question was whether one needs to use a third party password manager when one can go all in on Google and the answer is no. Google password manager does a perfectly fine job.
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BabyFur Denny posted:Nobody forces you to use it if it's not suitable for your use case. The question was whether one needs to use a third party password manager when one can go all in on Google and the answer is no. Google password manager does a perfectly fine job. I get all my security tips from "BabyFur Denny" on the Internet Mom, he's never wrong.
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Hmm yeah better listen to that other guy on the internet, the one who just made a bunch of wrong claims about Google password
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I made some which were out of date as I hadn't used the tool in a while. But others are still valid and you either ignored them or just argued they aren't important. the original question was NomNomNom posted:And how are these better than using the password manager built into Chrome.. and they have a lot of features the chrome solution just does not have. If you don't need those features. Good for you. Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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Chrome credentials are stored locally and are encrypted using your windows password, so if someone gets access to your computer they have complete access to your passwords you stored in Chrome. There's even helpful tools that will do it all for you, you just run the app on a computer with your Chrome passwords and it pops up a window with all your passwords. My 1password on the other hand has a unique password not used anywhere else and two factor authentication.
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Jose Valasquez posted:Chrome credentials are stored locally and are encrypted using your windows password, so if someone gets access to your computer they have complete access to your passwords you stored in Chrome. There's even helpful tools that will do it all for you, you just run the app on a computer with your Chrome passwords and it pops up a window with all your passwords. To be fair if someone has physical access to your device like that then they most likely can just open up your browser to gmail.com and gain access to everything you own that way so I'm not sure it matters. (I mean it matters of course but I'm just saying even if chrome's passwords were encrypted just having physical access implies access to your email accounts which is the master key into everything else you own.) One very real and not tech related reason to not use Google for password management is that there are far too many stories of people getting locked out of their Google accounts because ~the algorithm~ deemed it so, and there being absolutely NOTHING you can do to regain control of your account outside of knowing someone at Google to go to bat for you to get it back. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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well I hope after all this bickering over password managers that you also use a separate service for two factor auth. and that you have it enabled everywhere
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Highbrow Slick posted:Who is Opera for? I always thought it was a legacy iOS browser or something It was the best desktop browser for a while, then other browsers copied most of its innovative features like tabs* (except for the integrated email client, which was also really good but was cancelled). I contend it's still the best Android browser. Anyway, I'm going to yell at a cloud now and whine about how after watching Glass Onion (it's great, go see it), it took me a good five minutes to find a goddamn screenshot of the napkin. This is the only one I got, and I had to remember three specific words on it before GIS showed me anything with a napkin. Duckduckgo was even worse and returned nothing related to the movie. It's not even really a spoiler! * yes, some obscure rear end browser from 1995 supposedly had them first, Microsoft bought them out and didn't bother to add tabs to IE until way later. Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Dec 25, 2022 |
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eXXon posted:* yes, some obscure rear end browser from 1995 supposedly had them first, Microsoft bought them out and didn't bother to add tabs to IE until way later.
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TACD posted:haha, did Microsoft even figure out how to add tabs to the file browser yet? Oh how I want this
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TACD posted:haha, did Microsoft even figure out how to add tabs to the file browser yet? Yes
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eXXon posted:It was the best desktop browser for a while, then other browsers copied most of its innovative features like tabs* (except for the integrated email client, which was also really good but was cancelled). I contend it's still the best Android browser. In fairness, it got released in an easily screenshot-able format about 48 hours ago. I'm not sure how widespread that'd all be quite yet. E: "glass Onion napkin" bore fruit with result 6 on my GIS search. Not saying that searching has cratered in the past few years, but I think we still need at least a little time to index the good stuff over clickbait AI articles that are a few months old.
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But they're kinda hosed up and missing functionally that browser tabs had from the beginning. It's progress, obviously, but it's kind of astonishing that they didn't just copy all the behavior of tabs in Edge.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:But they're kinda hosed up and missing functionally that browser tabs had from the beginning. It's progress, obviously, but it's kind of astonishing that they didn't just copy all the behavior of tabs in Edge. Probably the Edge team and the file browser team are mortal enemies or something.
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It doesn't have to even be that petty. Basing on my own megacorp experience, they can be so organizationally distant that you get more efficient interaction with other companies than between the two teams. When I have to do planning for some stuff, I basically double the overall time for each level of separation in the organization to account for risk and volatility. Same manager? That's 2x. Same second level? 4x. Same fourth level? 16x so symbolically ask but assume zero help. Lately this has been subverted as I get higher than that though. It's something like up to the 4th level, everybody still recognizes some of the names and stuff stays political. After that, you are strangers and have to just be professional, which turns out more efficiently than even cases where everybody in the hierarchy were friends.
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Microsoft teams are that petty, though. Even recently. We've had problems with them with campus licensing, where apparently the Office Licensing and Windows Client Licensing were in some sort of internal turf war and we couldn't get them on the same page for a deal. Their dysfunction became a running joke in our meetings during that time. If your internal dysfunction makes university admins crack jokes at your expense, your org is hosed up.
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Antigravitas posted:Microsoft teams are that petty, though. Even recently. We've had problems with them with campus licensing, where apparently the Office Licensing and Windows Client Licensing were in some sort of internal turf war and we couldn't get them on the same page for a deal. Their dysfunction became a running joke in our meetings during that time. Yeah that's some high tier dysfunctionality. I work in signage and universities have so many cooks in the kitchen it can take six months to like, get a single restroom sign approved and installed.
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Yeah, Microsoft's internal dysfunction is legendary. They finally stopped using stack ranking when they realised it was doing nothing but making that even worse but the legacy remains. Executives loving love the idea of social darwinism and then wonder why they end up with an organisation with the famed cooperation, efficiency and loyalty of Decepticons.
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"Clippy is dead! I lead the Office Team now!"
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I guess Twitter has been having some problems today -- I didn't see any problems until a half hour ago, with the web version being unable to load, replies disappearing, etc. Things may start being shaky from here.
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Yeah I was having problems with the web version of Twitter earlier and I've been hearing reports of people getting logged out all day. This may be the end of Twitter if Elon's hand picked coding staff can't course correct. Not that I'm expecting them to be able to, since they're at like a quarter of the staffing that previous Twitter CEOs felt necessary to operate the website.
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It feels like forever ago but on November 11th there were reports about Musk wanting to make Twitter also a banking platform where with its own debit/credit cards you could link your bank account to, market exchange, etc. I LOL'd then at the idea of adding one's bank info to Twitter (let alone MUSK-owned Twitter?  ) but I'm twice as LOL'ing now because drat.We all knew Musk's idiot concepts of efficiency and productivity and the layoffs would all add up to an eventual cascade of small failures that would break Twitter but I really wasn't expecting signs of that to start showing up so soon.
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Neo Rasa posted:It feels like forever ago but on November 11th there were reports about Musk wanting to make Twitter also a banking platform where with its own debit/credit cards you could link your bank account to, market exchange, etc. Funny thing about that idea is that banking comes with a LOT of regulation and scrutiny. Seeing as how they seem to be YOLOing the existing consent decree, I could see that one actually causing direct, personal damage to Musk since the "gently caress around" was clearly acknowledged as being past.
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https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-elon-musk-margin-call-twitter-loan-51672328580 Musk just got his first margin call on the Twitter financing! (probably, if the terms are actually being enforced.) quote:Tesla executives are allowed to borrow up to 25% of the value of their Tesla stock, using their shares as collateral for the loan. The initial loan-to-value ratio for the $12.5 billion facility that was part of Musk’s Twitter financing, however, had an initial loan-to-value ratio of 20%.
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I genuinely hope he's being margin called. I cannot express enough how happy that would make me.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What does "being margin called" mean? I didn't quite manage to make sense of it. I think it means the people who bet that he'd eat poo poo are being told their bets were winning ones
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What does "being margin called" mean? I didn't quite manage to make sense of it. The lender can demand to be paid back in part or force the lendee to put up additional collateral due to the drop in value of the collateral already placed. If the lendee doesn't then the lender may force a sale of the placed collateral to repay their loan.
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