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Farecoal posted:What GPU would be the next step up from a 1660 Super? AMD or Nvidia Do you have a 1660S and are looking to upgrade, or you are buying new (or used) and wanting something that's a bit more powerful than a 1660S? The current-gen "better than 1660S" options are the RTX 3050 and AMD 6600, but nobody should ever buy the RTX 3050. It costs significantly more than a 2060 while performing worse. The best value in that general area right now is an AMD 6600, 6600XT, or these EVGA 3060s for $260: https://www.evga.com/Products/productlist.aspx?type=8&family=GeForce+30+Series+Family
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Twerk from Home posted:Do you have a 1660S and are looking to upgrade, or you are buying new (or used) and wanting something that's a bit more powerful than a 1660S? I have a 1660 Super right now, it was basically the best I could afford back when GPU prices were sky-high. These look good, but I think I would have to upgrade my power supply as well, so I'll hold off for now. Thank you
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Farecoal posted:I have a 1660 Super right now, it was basically the best I could afford back when GPU prices were sky-high. These look good, but I think I would have to upgrade my power supply as well, so I'll hold off for now. Thank you Oh, I assumed you were looking at buying something and did not have any GPU right now because believe it or not, the 1660S is still relevant new (or new old stock, or used). If you're upgrading from a 1660S I'd be looking at an AMD 6700XT or RTX 3060 Ti at least.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I'm assuming your current PC already has an LGA1200 CPU that you'd be carrying over? Wanting to escape from a lovely OEM is understandable, but in this case it sounds like you'd be paying a lot just to get access to a second NVMe drive slot. Surely you can install SATA drives too if you need more storage. And yes, a new GPU would give you much more bang for your buck since this upgrade wouldn't improve performance at all. I already have an adaptor and a spare pcie, but it won't fit with the GPU in there. It's just the tinniest motherboard. But you're right I'd be throwing $80 at it and getting no real benefit other than, "not a lovely OEM setup"
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That isn't that outrageous of an expenditure. Sure it won't net you any FPS gains, but it's OK to do things like that anyway. QoL stuff is cool too.
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Let's say I wanted to get a computer that I could extend out to 256 GB or more RAM, but I'm not interested in building the whole thing up myself, and was looking at a custom prebuilt like this one https://www.centralcomputer.com/b325-amd-hedt-workstation.html. Do I need to stick with ECC RAM or can I swap it out for cheaper RAM? Basically I want lots of RAM, but I'm not doing anything important enough to require ECC. Does it matter to the motherboards in workstations whether the RAM is ECC or not?
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With how big SSDs are nowadays do people still use a dedicated windows boot drive and a separate SSD for games or does everyone just put it all on one for high end gaming rigs?
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A single NVME with separate OS and games/storage partitions works well for me. In addition to bigger drives becoming more affordable, a 1Gbps internet connection made it practical to reduce the amount of local storage.
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What’s the advantage of partitions?
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If you put your user data on a separate partition, you can nuke the OS without losing everything (or having to restore from backup).
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SuperTeeJay posted:A single NVME with separate OS and games/storage partitions works well for me. In addition to bigger drives becoming more affordable, a 1Gbps internet connection made it practical to reduce the amount of local storage.
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GruntyThrst posted:With how big SSDs are nowadays do people still use a dedicated windows boot drive and a separate SSD for games or does everyone just put it all on one for high end gaming rigs? I have two 1TB NVMe drives and a 4TB SATA SSD plus a 2TB HDD that's still alive and kicking. 1TB is big enough that my boot drive has a whole mishmash of random poo poo on there.
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My fast 1tb is my main drive with boot and whatever random stuff that gets installed (programs, saves , etc). I didn't bother to be partition. I have a second slightly slower drive as just bulk use, like steam games and blender files, printer stls, etc Anything really important is on a synced Google drive Roundboy fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Dec 25, 2022 |
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I just bought a 4TB nvme drive a month or so ago that's just "everything".Wibla posted:If you put your user data on a separate partition, you can nuke the OS without losing everything (or having to restore from backup). I have seen many people offer this advice in my life but I have never seen a single person actually do this.
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The issue is that you have to, at the time of partition, decide how big that is drive will be forever. There are various tools that can do this after the fact, but that can be annoying. I resolved myself to keeping important stuff in the cloud, and when the drive starts getting full it's time for windows to be reinstalled anyway
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Speaking of, how hard is it to clone your boot drive? I have a 500gb gen 3 boot NVME drive, and a 1TB bulk storage NVME, but I'm kind of running out of room and storage is dirt cheap now so I'd like to expand at the lowest point first.
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Very easy these days. Reflect clone tool makes it's super easy and some manufacturers provide you with a cloning tool of their own too. Only issues is if you have a spare nvme slot or an adapter to make it easy to swap drives like a nvme to USB etc.
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ughhhh posted:Very easy these days. Reflect clone tool makes it's super easy and some manufacturers provide you with a cloning tool of their own too. Only issues is if you have a spare nvme slot or an adapter to make it easy to swap drives like a nvme to USB etc. Somehow my dad has hosed up twice with that process and has needed to like system reset, like he cloned the drive, it didn't work when he put the new drive in, he put the old drive back in and removed the new one and it wouldn't boot to windows. I wasn't there when he was doing it but he is reasonably competent so I'd say to anyone doing this just be careful what you click and read what it's telling you.
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Is it worth paying more for a Gold rated PSU over a Bronze at the same wattage? Does it indicate better quality, or is it just energy efficiency? And thank you to all the thread regulars for answering so many questions over the years
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power crystals posted:I have seen many people offer this advice in my life but I have never seen a single person actually do this. Tell me you don't know anyone running Linux without telling me you don't know anyone running Linux. My current storage setup is: 2TB WD SN770 NVME as Windows boot/game drive 512GB WB SN570 NVME as Linux boot drive (with separate home partition) 2TB WD Blue SATA drive as slower game drive 512GB WD Blue SATA drive as Linux storage 1TB Team SATA drive as Windows storage 1TB Crucial SATA drive as Windows storage
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And you’ve partitioned the windows boot drive/game drive I assume?
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Farecoal posted:Is it worth paying more for a Gold rated PSU over a Bronze at the same wattage? Does it indicate better quality, or is it just energy efficiency? It only refers to energy efficiency. Nicer PSUs often target higher ratings (or maybe higher wattage PSUs are just inherently more efficent, I don't know) so you'll find that the higher end stuff is basically never bronze. You'll find the non-modular PSUs will be almost always bronze and the nicer sleeved modular PSUs will be Gold+. Get whatever PSU meets your needs, is the level of modularity that works for you, and most importantly has a nice long warranty since you should replace any PSU that is out of warranty. I personally quite like the EVGA products which often have 10 year warranties.
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Did I misread or is it true that efficiently ratings are only relevant when you run the PSU at near max power Like a bronze pau is more efficient at 90% max then a good at 50% usage? But less power used is still less power used, you are just putting more in to make it.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Tell me you don't know anyone running Linux without telling me you don't know anyone running Linux. No, I've seen people do the parition thing. I have even seen corporate IT people assign VMs like 5 partitions and refuse to explain how we were supposed to use them. I mean I have never seen anyone casually pave their OS partition and go "yep I'm good" without having to reinstall software or pull documents off the boot drive that wound up there anyway etc. It's always an optimistic idea that never survives contact with reality much like desktop linux  .
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Roundboy posted:Did I misread or is it true that efficiently ratings are only relevant when you run the PSU at near max power No. Searching for PSU efficiency curves seem to show that generally PSUs are most efficient around 50% load. On higher loads the efficiency drops slightly and in light loads the efficiency drops sharply. Seems like you would want to choose a PSU that would run at 20% load while idling, and if your computer idles at low load and it spends more timing idling, then you would want a higher rated PSU.
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Hope it's cool to ask this in this thread but I had my eye on this MSI Aegis SE and it's on sale right now. Normally I would build but local stock for PC parts for a new builds still sucks and my 10 year old build is showing signs of impending doom. Not impressed with only 16GB of RAM but that should be upgradeable. 550 W PSU is kinda meh but should be sufficient for my needs Any blatant issues on this pre-build that I might be overlooking? melon cat fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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https://msi/ The link is only showing me this?
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My recent vidcard history is as follows: 4750 1Gb 1060 3Gb 1030 2Gb Not a good trend ramwise! So I'm not feeling an 8gb card right now having a decade plus of GTA graphics settings screen memory use warning trauma. Which card would you rather be stuck with for, lets say, the next seven years? GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING OC 12G - $489.00 - https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=195323 Or ASUS Dual AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT OC Edition 12GB - $499.99 - https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_558&item_id=221304 I'm leaning towards the AMD, it seems to do better overall in frame rates and I have no interest in coin mining obscure gpu based remnant coins. With physx now being open sourced, and my main use case being to blow old games out of the water framerate wise, I don't see why I shouldnt blow that extra eleven dollars and also not support that kinda off putting leather jacket ceo. shadow puppet of a fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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If you don't care about ray tracing, get the AMD card.
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AMD 6750XT hands down. It's in a different category than the 3060, significantly faster unless you have super specific Nvidia needs. Nvidia GPUs other than the 3080 and 4090 are in a bad place value-wise right now.
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Unless you want raytracing, the AMD card is just much better all-round. Like about 50% faster than the 3060. (And something like 7-8 times the raw speed of a 1030).
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spunkshui posted:https://msi/ Apoligies- fixed the link. But here it is again melon cat fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Jan 10, 2024 |
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For further support, I went from a 2060 Super to a 6800XT and near doubled performance in some games. Also if you want to just crank up some older games, even only 4-5 years older it's great. Sometimes I can crank the settings on some games from 2017 and the GPU fans don't even come on.
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melon cat posted:Ah poo poo sorry- fixed the link. But here it is again I don’t know much about your pricing up there but depending on what you play, what resolution, and what settings it might better better the build your own and find room for a 3070 in that budget at the same price. Those things are typically super annoying if you know how to upgrade computers because they intentionally make it impossible.
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I just disassembled and stripped an old HP I found outside (hooray for new things day, put the old things in the garbage immediately!) and OEMs really do make these things awful to wrench on - almost every screw was torx or hex, the HDD cage obstructed most of the board, the motherboard was not only totally proprietary but impossibly cheap (like, "AMD board drilled for Intel stock cooler mounting so they wouldn't have to make new parts" cheap) - but on the plus side, once I'd discarded the chaff I was left with a Ryzen 5 2400G, a Realtek RTL8821CE wifi card, a 1tb WD Blue HDD and a couple right-angle SATA cables, so merry christmas to me 
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melon cat posted:Ah poo poo sorry- fixed the link. But here it is again After looking at some reviews it seems that this line uses standardized components, which is a positive. The price is okay given current parts costs. The case is terrible, though, and has virtually no airflow. The PSU will also limit future upgrade options. If you don't want to build your own, you could probably spec something similar or slightly better and get Canada Computers to build it for you for a similar price. grack fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Dec 27, 2022 |
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Went with the 6750 XT. Thank you all for your feedback. See you in hell, GTA 4 video memory error message screen! Gonna give those goons in Arkham asylum 200 fps worth of beatdowns.
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If you need a fast SSD and missed the black friday deals, Newegg has the SN 850X on sale $170 for 2TB $380 for 4TB https://www.newegg.com/western-digi...-247-_-12262022 e:Amazon too https://www.amazon.com/WD_BLACK-SN850X-Internal-Gaming-Solid/dp/B0B7CMZ3QH Rinkles fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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After deciding that my poo poo garbage 8650u dell laptop was not up to snuff as a dedicated streamlabs machine (eating hdmi from the game rig via a dongle) i did a stupid today. Originally started out looking at budget 5600g builds (i want to run software encoding and will not be gaming on this machine) and got bullied, shamed and baited into buying: 12700k Tuf z690 atx board($50 at microcenter bundled with the chip) 2x32 of the ole ripjaws - got 5600 speed though i'm to understand the chip doesnt need anything more than 4800, figured i'd get the nicer stuff for an extra $20. I may fill it out next month as my Ryzen has 128gb and bigram is just funny Corsair 750w modular Elgato cam link pro (adorama's got 'em for $149 and they'll do 1440p60 which is my game machine's res) USB cards and backplates to bring every port i can out; this'll bring it to 22 USB ports and 4 HDMI inputs. Using a spare wd black 500gb ssd i picked up a bit ago and never ended up using ...and the best part, which i can't stop giggling about  lian li odyssey X since nobody bought them and microcenter is dumping them at $149. it's ridiculous. The backplane-on-top setup really appeals to me as this'll be on the floor and i'll be constantly hooking up random hdmi and usb devices. e: and yep. no gpu. Yet, anyways.
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Now it's running into performance issues with RTX games, especially the Witcher 3 Next Gen version. Apparently those games are very demanding on the CPU (?). According to this list https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/asus-rog-strix-z490-f-gaming/cpu The biggest update would be the i9-11900K, but cheaper CPUs rank much better in the Single-Core Effective Value. So I guess I'm wondering if my CPU might be a bottleneck to the 3070, if an upgrade of the CPU would make sense and if that's the case what CPU would be best for my so setup.
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