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lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

mawarannahr posted:

glad to hear revolutions is bad and that I saved myself from listening to a single episode

Frosted Flake posted:



If the body don't putrefy, you must Beatify.

lol

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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Charles was the last Hapsburg emperor, beatifying him sort of feels like a familial participation trophy. Anyway I'm sure Carrol has some very normal takes on St. Oscar Romero

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?
Christians are such cornball assholes, here's some excerpts of Carroll's Rise and Fall of the Communist Revolution from a 1996 First Things article by one Richard John Neuhaus: https://www.firstthings.com/article/1996/11/the-taming-of-the-church

quote:

The defeat of the Communist Revolution was, above all, an act of God and an answer to prayer—the millionfold prayers of its victims rising to Heaven when almost no one but God would listen to them. When Lenin and his Communists took over Russia in 1917, many of the intellectuals of the West applauded, and most refused to listen to the evidence of the enormous evil of Communist rule, or blackened the reputation of those bold enough to tell the truth about it. When Stalin and his Communists took over Eastern Europe after World War II, and Mao and his Communists took over China, a significant proportion of intellectuals (especially in Europe) still defended Stalin, and most intellectuals throughout the West defended Mao. The United States developed a policy of containment of communism only over the vehement objections of intellectuals, who were able to gain enough support to prevent the adoption of a policy of liberation. The hundreds of millions conquered or victimized by communism were thus abandoned to an eternity of slavery. Only to God could they now cry; and to God they did cry. God heard them—and raised up as rescuers humble men who still believed in Him: Pope John Paul II, Lech Walesa, Father Gleb Yakunin and his like, and the holy warriors of Afghanistan.

quote:

After these, Mikhail Gorbachev—though clearly not a man of God—must be given his due. By breaking the political chains of the Communist system he made its ultimate destruction possible. We are still not sure why he did it. We may never know. But the Christian may well believe that, through the mystery of grace and the power of the omnipotent, God also had a hand in this, as part of His answer to the prayers.

quote:

Warren Carroll has no doubt about communism being an ersatz religion, and he ends his massive work with this passage from Whittaker Chambers’ classic memoir, Witness:

“(Communism) is not new. It is, in fact, man’s second oldest faith. Its promise was whispered in the first days of the Creation under the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil: ‘Ye shall be as gods.’ It is the great alternative faith of mankind. Like all great faiths, its force derives from a simple vision. Other ages have had great visions. They have always been different versions of the same vision: the vision of God and man’s relationship to God. The Communist vision is the vision of man without God. It is the vision of man’s mind displacing God as the creative intelligence of the world.”

Most intellectuals will be unhappy with Carroll’s unblinking recognition of the evil of communism, but that is their problem. The book is dedicated “to the memory of the martyrs under communism, especially those whose names are known only to God.” Attention must be paid. We owe it to them, and to ourselves.

Looking at his wiki, typical fraud Christian intellectual:

quote:

Carroll has received numerous awards throughout his academic career. Christendom College, the school he founded, awarded him an honorary doctorate in humane letters in 1999, its Pro Deo et Patria Award for Distinguished Service to God and Country in 2007, and its inaugural Queen Isabel Catholic Vision of History Award in 2007. The Society of Catholic Social Scientists, an organization of which he was a board member, named him its inaugural recipient of the Pius XI Award in history in 1995.

I suggest reading the whole, long article for a delightful collection of passive aggressive whining by Neuhaus

Dr. Jerrold Coe has issued a correction as of 20:34 on Dec 26, 2022

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

christendom college

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?
It's great reading poo poo like this:

Neuhaus was criticized for his political engagement as "theoconservatism".[12][13] In contrast, the theologian David Bentley Hart described Neuhaus as "a reflective, intelligent, self-possessed, generous, and principled man, is opinionated (definitely), but not at all spiteful or resentful towards those who disagree with him; words like "absolutist" are vacuous abstractions when applied to him. His magazine publishes articles that argue (sometimes quite forcibly) views contrary to his own, and he seems quite pleased that it should do so.[14]"

on a guys wikipedia when you can do 5 seconds of googling and find him being a nasty little baby bitch about gender equality or not giving homos the death penalty. is there another pundit subset out there with as much unearned smugness paired with self pity as reactionary Christians? Neuhaus was an "unofficial" advisor to George W. Bush by the way and his wiki credits him with all the anti-gay, anti-stem cell, anti-abortion crap the administration rolled out.

lmao Newsweek's obit for him said "Father Richard John Neuhaus's work will be remembered and debated for decades." sorry its all trash and served its purpose in the moment, only to be flushed away so Ben Shapiro or whoever can step up with the latest distraction, only for Shapiro to be forgotten for the next replaceable talking head, etc.

Dr. Jerrold Coe has issued a correction as of 20:46 on Dec 26, 2022

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Frosted Flake posted:

I found much, much hotter takes yesterday and I'm reading it while I wait for a flight back east:

1917: Red Banners, White Mantle

The Lady of Fatima digression aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

In his the first volume on his World History, he describes the Indus Valley civilization as evil communism.

India Understander posted:

The other monolith (Mesopotamia, Egypt being the first two- FF) was the still stranger civilization known as the Harap­ pa, from one of its two chief cities in the Indus River valley in northwestern India. Though probably also stimulated by Mesopotamia's example, since the Sumerians were periodically in contact with the Indus valley by sea, the form of its writing developed so differently from any other that there appears to be little hope of ever translating the few written records of the Harappa civiliza­ tion which have survived. Aside from archeological remains, the only clues to its nature come from its ultimate conquerors, the Aryans whose triumph was recorded in the Vedas. The Vedas tell how invaders from the north overwhelmed a dark-skinned people huddled behind walls, the Dasyus. An Indian historian writes:

“In the Aryan view the Dasyus practised black magic. Such a belief is especially found in the Atharva Veda, in which the Dasyus appear as evil spirits to be scared away from the sacrifice. It is said that an all-powerful amulet enabled the sage Angiras to break through the Dasyus' fortresses. . . . It is believed that the Dasyus are treacherous, not practising the Aryan observances, and hardly human.”

And the British archeologist whose name has been associated with the Harap­ pa civilization for more than a quarter of a century describes as follows a discovery in the excavation of the second city of that civilization, Mohenjo-daro:

“Particularly in the East, where decay is rapid, bodies are not left lying about amongst inhabited houses. The general inference from the thirty or more derelict corpses at Mohenjo-daro is that from the moment of death the place was uninhabited. The absence of skeletons (so far) from the citadel may imply that the raiders occupied and cleared this commanding position for their own momentary use. For the rest, it may be suspected that sporadic fires in the sacked city kept predatory animals away.”

Sacks are as old as cities themselves. Barbarian incursions and devastation mark the fall of every civilization. But in none was the physical destruction so complete and the initial rejection of existing culture so total as that of the Harappa civilization by the Aryans, and it is hard to resist the impression that they felt they were crushing something abominable.

The Harappa civilization is distinguished from all others known by its ex­ traordinary lack of change. For a thousand years (roughly 2500 to 1500 B.C.) it remained almost exactly the same, except for a very gradual decline towards the end. Its two great cities sprang up precisely planned, evidently by some supreme, unquestioned authority; and every smaller city and town ofthis civiliza­tion so far excavated has shown the identically, rigidly regular street pattern. The cities contained neither monuments, nor inscriptions, nor decorations. Blank walls of mud-brick faced the long straight streets and the right-angle corners, hiding the small dark dwelling-places of the people behind them. In Harappa and Mohenjo-daro, gigantic granaries collectively stored the produce of the fields. No panoply of royalty nor clash of arms overawed potentially rebellious thousands. From all appearances Harappa had no kings, and its weapons were curiously weak. There were no swords, and the spearheads would have crumpled at the first hard thrust.

In an evocative essay in his book Lost Cities, Leonard Cottrell asks: "Was this, perhaps ' 1984'-B.C.?"



In each city rose one great temple mound, and only one. In this the Indian historian D. D. Kosambi believes he has found the key to the cause of the utter stagnation of the Harappa civilization: domination by a single all-powerful priesthood which would allow no innovation. The numerous seals used by in­ dividual Harappans which have been preserved depict a horned god who is a recognizable prototype of Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction, whose dark­ skinned consort Kali was the goddess of the cult of the Thug stranglers who preyed for centuries on Indian travellers until finally exposed in the nineteenth century by a heroic British official. The pose of meditation shown on the Harap­pan seals is clearly that of yoga.

A very substantial body of evidence from the history of Indian philosophy may be adduced to confirm the hypothesis that the Aryan destruction of the Harappa civilization, while physically complete, did not exorcise its ghosts, who returned to haunt the conquerors as wandering gurus. In the Vedas there is none of the convoluted mysticism we now associate with Hindu India, but rather what Heinrich Zimmer calls a "roaring, world-affirmative" classical paganismY But with the passage of the centuries the strange doctrines of the unreality of the objective universe, the metaphysical nonentity of the individual, and the endless cycle of reincarnation-doctrines wholly unknown, or confined to a small esoteric minority, elsewhere in the world -gained an ever-tightening grip on the Indian mind, along with their social expression which was caste.
Civilized society in India slowly petrified into an ultimate rigidity which neither time nor change could break.



(Literally pages about the soulless evil of South Indian religion compared to Aryan Zoroastrianism, and how this leads to Communism and Materialism)



The Oriental civilizations have acquired a vastly exaggerated reputation for anti­
quity in the popular mind. In fact they possess no written texts (except for a few rock inscriptions) dating from before the birth of Christ, and the oldest compositions handed down by word of mouth and by written copies now lost go back no farther than 1 500 B.C. in the case of the Vedas of India. Only in Egypt and in the Indus valley of India did writing exist in all the world outside Mesopotamia in 2000 B.C. So far as we can tell, it was not used for any literary purpose in the Indus valley. As for Egypt, the in­ scriptions and few papyri older than 2000 B . C . include no examples of a connected nar­rative of any length



At about the time the Second Temple was completed in Jerusalem, Darius sent an expedition down from the highlands of Kabul to the Indus River, and thence around Arabia to Egypt. This expedition, which included Skylax of Karyanda, a countryman of Herodotus the historian, brought India into direct contact with the West for the first time since the days of the Sumerian empire of Ur in 2000 B.C. ; while Darius' Persian empire now included most of the Indus valley, once the heartland of the Harappa civilization. Thus Persia and her essentially familiar Western-type culture met the fantastically alien civilization that had been growing up in the Indian subcontinent and at this very moment, 515B.C., hadreachedakindofclimaxinthelivesoftwoextraordinarymen: Siddhartha of the Sakyas, called the Buddha-the "Enlightened One"; and Var­dhamana of Vaisali, called the Mahavira-the "Great Victor"-by the Jains.



(Pages of very unchill descriptions of Buddhists and Jains)



The sinister mien of early Indian civilization has already been sketched; and the Harappa theme intensifies as we move through the almost unknown cen­turies of the Vedic age in India to the age of the Buddha and the Mahavira. The earliest Vedic poems, prayers, and pantheon are almost identical with what we know or surmise of the literature and religion of the earliest Persians, yet no two cultures could be more different than the Persia of Darius and the India of the Buddha. It is evident that in India the largely healthy naturalism of the Vedas was swallowed up by something so extraordinary as to be historically unique, a cast of mind which no other culture has developed or resembled ex­cept where itself influenced by the Indian. Mention has already been made of a central component of that cast of mind: the unquestioning belief in reincarna­tion, which there is good reason to hold to have been derived solely from the Harappa civilization, since it is not found in the Vedas or in the earliest
Upanishads.



(The Buddha is described as Lenin, more or less)



Any such man, confronted with the spectacle of Prince Siddhartha's heroic but fantastic challenge to imagined cosmic horror, would surely have asked in astonishment why he did not first demand some real evidence that reincarna­ tion is true before committing his bones and his blood to working out a way to escape from it.

There are few more mystifying-indeed, more frightening-facts in history than that not only did the Buddha never ask that question, but neither did any other respected thinker or leader or teacher in India before the time of Christ. Is it any wonder that of all the apostles, that one was sent to India who had refused even to believe in the Resurrection of Christ until he could put his fingers into the holes made by the nails in the hands of the Risen Lord, and his hand into the wound in His side made by the Roman lance-thrust while He hung upon the Cross? (lol Doubting Thomas was punished by being sent to India - FF)

Is it any wonder that when the great Jesuit Roberto de Nobili follow­ed in the footsteps of the Apostle Thomas some fifteen centuries later, his In­dian converts hailed him as "Teacher of Reality"?

There’s way more but lol it goes into really weird places. His model of Indian = Communist seems to draw from the Naxalite–Maoist insurgency coming from southern India, but uh uncomfortably seems to also consider it related to their darker skin or something, which is far too much for me to untangle.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Very Normal Academic Writing an Ecclesiastical History posted:

Historians, hobbled by a prejudice against "value judgments" (except for those, like the modern Western economic interpretation of history, of which they are largely or entirely unconscious because of familiarity) are not suppos­ ed to deal with this kind of question. Yet any attempt at serious consideration of Indian history which fails to do so becomes rank absurdity. For the primary characteristic of Indian history, before and outside the Impact of the West, is that it hardly exists; and the reason it hardly exists is that almost no one bothered to write it, because in view of the endless cycle of rebirth and the illusory nature and/or positive evil of all temporal activity of existence, which Indian philosophy taught, there was no point in writing it. No Indian writing of any kind, earlier than about 250 B.C. , survives; nor is there good evidence ofany great lost written works before then. Alexander the Great first gave India the idea of large-scale political organization. But the shocks from him and from later Greek penetrators were like stones falling into a still pond, producing long slow ripples which eventually died away into stillness again. Not until Islam hammers into India with fire and scimitar does she at last begin to open her eyes; not until the British raj is the nightmarish sleep at last cast off.

Is he defending or attacking economics there?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

that's some decent Lovecraft homage tbh

Her Dryer
Oct 15, 2012
The new project that Duncan has lined up sounds insanely boring. A podcast on history books.

I liked Revolutions and I'm thankful for it introducing me to wild rides like the Mexican Revolution, but yeah season 10 had so many red flags (no pun intended) that it's made me retrospectively doubt the veracity of all the other seasons, which is a shame. But it entertained me during commutes and work at least.

Demon_Corsair
Mar 22, 2004

Goodbye stealing souls, hello stealing booty.

Her Dryer posted:

The new project that Duncan has lined up sounds insanely boring. A podcast on history books.

I liked Revolutions and I'm thankful for it introducing me to wild rides like the Mexican Revolution, but yeah season 10 had so many red flags (no pun intended) that it's made me retrospectively doubt the veracity of all the other seasons, which is a shame. But it entertained me during commutes and work at least.

For a brief moment after the Haitian series, I thought he was starting to radicalize a bit, but noooope.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

good chapo ep

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Demon_Corsair posted:

For a brief moment after the Haitian series, I thought he was starting to radicalize a bit, but noooope.

me too, but it really gave me a better understanding of stuff like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD1XDhKr8U

yes, liberals will be outraged about the right things (sometimes)
yes, you may think ‘this is their crack-ping moment’
but as soon as the question “then what is to be done?” comes up, they fall back into reflexive defense of existing structures. sure that famine was bad, but it was just one bad king. sure this war was awful, but you can’t, like, do a revolution about it or anything. you can’t support violent revolutionaries, real change happens through peaceful protest and raising awareness. vote!

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Farm Frenzy posted:

good chapo ep

can't believe what they said about drawfee and dave chapelle

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
I thought Duncan was remarkably measured when talking about Stalin, and was refreshingly not regurgitating Orwellian narratives about Trotsky or other frequent Left Anti-communism talking points.

Duncan's liberalism did express itself in other ways (he liked Makhno a lot), but I didn't find him to be an unreliable narrator. I had more issues with how he handled Haiti despite how the story supposedly transformed his thinking.

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Echo Chamber posted:

I thought Duncan was remarkably measured when talking about Stalin, and was refreshingly not regurgitating Orwellian narratives about Trotsky or other frequent Left Anti-communism talking points.

Duncan's liberalism did express itself in other ways (he liked Makhno a lot), but I didn't find him to be an unreliable narrator. I had more issues with how he handled Haiti despite how the story supposedly transformed his thinking.

no he definitely made a hard right turn at the kornilov affair and never looked back. from then on most of every episode was blaming the bolsheviks for everything. ffs they saved the provisional government during the kornilov affair, and duncan both downplayed the bolshevik’s role and played up the whole thing as a biiig good-intentioned misunderstanding by brave russian patriots. i remember because he took pains to describe how kornilov’s own aide saying they’d get rid of kerensky after the coup was just a joke by the guy, not anything serious. imo he’s absolutely an unreliable narrator from that point onward

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
Driving home from my parents' yesterday and my wife asks me to turn up the latest Tech Won't Save Us episode on the FTX crash. Trying to determine if she is specifically anti-crypto or just likes hearing about famous people crashing and burning in spectacular fashion.

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1607131724038782978?t=grdBDnuvWQe81LeuT1KnbQ&s=19

Godspeed you anyone who stuck with Revolutions all this time. I tapped out just after January 2020

Hello it me. I have a pretty clear memory of rolling into work as an episode of his English Revolution (maybe early in the American one?) series was finishing up, nine years two job and eight hundred miles ago. Liked the show overall but probably going to be slow to pick up his next series as I'm pretty sure I finished binging History of Rome just before he started this series back in 2013. That's too much Mike Duncan for anyone to put themselves through without a break!

He talks in this final episode about his transition from lib to something like a leftist as the series progressed (especially beginning with his French Revolution season) and how he helped, to whatever small extent, bring the Haitian Revolution back into the public eye. Obviously he's going to say whatever he thinks will make him sound the best but I think there was a tonal shift over time, especially the present-day public has started to lean leftward in some spaces as the podcast series has run its course.

Apraxin posted:

mike duncan suddenly struck by a feeling of psychic discomfort that he can't quite place
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1607229910996914177?cxt=HHwWgsDU1dXFg84sAAAA

https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/1607223866551861249

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

C-Euro posted:

Driving home from my parents' yesterday and my wife asks me to turn up the latest Tech Won't Save Us episode on the FTX crash. Trying to determine if she is specifically anti-crypto or just likes hearing about famous people crashing and burning in spectacular fashion.

Hello it me. I have a pretty clear memory of rolling into work as an episode of his English Revolution (maybe early in the American one?) series was finishing up, nine years two job and eight hundred miles ago. Liked the show overall but probably going to be slow to pick up his next series as I'm pretty sure I finished binging History of Rome just before he started this series back in 2013. That's too much Mike Duncan for anyone to put themselves through without a break!

He talks in this final episode about his transition from lib to something like a leftist as the series progressed (especially beginning with his French Revolution season) and how he helped, to whatever small extent, bring the Haitian Revolution back into the public eye. Obviously he's going to say whatever he thinks will make him sound the best but I think there was a tonal shift over time, especially the present-day public has started to lean leftward in some spaces as the podcast series has run its course.

https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/1607223866551861249

it seemed that way, up until he made a sharp right-hand turn after Nicky abdicated. he’s not a leftist:

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Is the Revolutions podcast accurate in its depiction of the collapse of the Bolsheviks popularity? Sometimes I listen to that podcast and it sounds a bit like they exaggerate some stuff like when they were comparing the white pogroms to the red ones as though they were in the same ballpark.

MeatwadIsGod posted:

He comes up pretty often in the modern history thread. Cross-quoting gradenko who posted a transcript of a Revolutions episode:

You have to be braindead to think that British, French, and American leaders supported soviet government. The dude just does not seem equipped to cover this period. Don't know what sources he's using, but I can't imagine even one supporting the idea that western leaders preferred reds to whites considering the expeditionary forces, blockades, and substantial material support for white generals those leaders provided during the war. Duncan's position seems to be "the support for the whites was halfhearted so it doesn't count."

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
personally I think it’s gross that duncan drew a false equivalency between the “judeo-bolshevism is real and the jews must be slaughtered” Russian Whites and the “equal rights for jews, minister of war is a jew” Russian Reds.

he then goes on to claim symon petliura wasn’t aware of the pogroms, they were all conducted by his underlings without his knowledge and he was just a brave patriot with good intentions like kerensky

Popy
Feb 19, 2008

all ducan did was regurgitate The Black Jacobins. I hated that dude before it was cool to hate em

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

lobotomy molo posted:

no he definitely made a hard right turn at the kornilov affair and never looked back. from then on most of every episode was blaming the bolsheviks for everything. ffs they saved the provisional government during the kornilov affair, and duncan both downplayed the bolshevik’s role and played up the whole thing as a biiig good-intentioned misunderstanding by brave russian patriots. i remember because he took pains to describe how kornilov’s own aide saying they’d get rid of kerensky after the coup was just a joke by the guy, not anything serious. imo he’s absolutely an unreliable narrator from that point onward

Carroll seems to understand that better, though obviously he takes it to some weird places. Get ready to think of Kornilov in a whole new way:

quote:

It is all too characteristic of modern historiography that virtually every account of the Russian Revolution and of Kornilov 's attempted coup states or implies that Kornilov went to the shrine of the Iberian Virgin because he sought to link himself in some ritualistic quasi-political way with the Czars who had prayed there before being crowned—despite the fact that Kornilov is known to have been totally opposed (as nearly everyone in Russia was) to any restoration of the Romanov dyansty. It seems to have occurred to no one even to consider the possibility that he was actually there to beg the Blessed Virgin Mary's help.

She had said:
If they listen to my requests, Russia will be converted and there will be peace. If not, she will scatter her errors through the world, provoking wars and persecutions of the Church.

On this small dark man with narrow half-Oriental eyes and a black mustache, superlatively brave but totally lacking in political experience, praying to the Blessed Virgin Mary in her most revered chapel in Moscow, the burden of the war and the world and the future now descended. Surely he must have felt the crushing weight of it. His prayers rose to the Lady who had come back to the Fatima children in Portugal just eight days before.
But not all prayers are answered—at least, not as we in our very limited vision can see and surmise. And, so far as this world can tell, General Kornilov's were not.


Through a series of tragi-comical blunders and misunderstandings, Kerensky learned of Kornilov's plans on September 8. The next day he dismissed him from command. Kornilov and his principal subordinates refus- ed to accept the dismissal, and Kornilov ordered the three previously prepared cavalry divisions to march on Petrograd.

Why he did not take command of them in person has never been explained. It was certainly not for lack of courage; Lavr Georgevich Kornilov had the heart of a lion, and was later to die in battle against the Communists. It seems to have been primarily a lack of anticipation of the inevitable difficulties and an unjustified expectation of widespread support in Petrograd. Supreme army headquarters at Mogilev remained much the best place from which to direct the operations of the whole army; and the possibility that his divisions, on their way to Petrograd without him, might be halted or subverted enroute, and his communication with them cut off, never seems to have occurred to Kornilov, who obviously had grave deficiencies as a strategist.


But that he knew fully what was at stake, is evident from his extraordinary proclamation of September 10, which included this poignant paragraph:

"The solemn certainty of the doom of this our country compels me in these terrible times to call upon all her loyal sons to save their dying native land. All within whom a Russian heart still beats, all who believe in God, go into the churches and pray to Our Lord for the greatest possible miracle, the salvation of our dear country."

The dying words and the deathless hope ring down the years. Kornilov's own prayers, unanswered, were soon stilled in this world by his death; but the prayers he asked for are offered to this day, in Russia and by all who hear and heed Our Lady of Fatima.

Carroll also seems to sincerely respect Lenin, he writes about him more or less as a Catholic saint in character, but not in belief.

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Frosted Flake posted:

Carroll seems to understand that better, though obviously he takes it to some weird places. Get ready to think of Kornilov in a whole new way:

Carroll also seems to sincerely respect Lenin, he writes about him more or less as a Catholic saint in character, but not in belief.

see that at least I can respect. there’s an ideology that they’re consistent about

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Frosted Flake posted:

Carroll also seems to sincerely respect Lenin, he writes about him more or less as a Catholic saint in character, but not in belief.

this was what clued me in tbh, because i don't understand how it's possible to not be impressed with lenin being stridently opposed to the pointless slaughter that was WWI. i can't contort myself the model necessary to speak on good terms of anyone who would want to continue that war

Brain Candy has issued a correction as of 02:26 on Dec 28, 2022

Quotey
Aug 16, 2006

We went out for lunch and then we stopped for some bubble tea.
Have you guys considered that maybe you're just wrong about these Bolkshevik fellas, or whaztever hte disagreement with Mike is?

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
since im too lazy to PM everyone, anyone that's using my podcast feeds may need to update the links from http:// to https:// podurama decided to poo poo the bed and stop playing non-ssl cert feeds so that finally kicked me in the rear end to setup a letsencrypt cert on my nas. now it seems to be working

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Quotey posted:

Have you guys considered that maybe you're just wrong about these Bolkshevik fellas, or whaztever hte disagreement with Mike is?

No

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Xaris posted:

since im too lazy to PM everyone, anyone that's using my podcast feeds may need to update the links from [url]http://[/url] to [url]https://[/url] podurama decided to poo poo the bed and stop playing non-ssl cert feeds so that finally kicked me in the rear end to setup a letsencrypt cert on my nas. now it seems to be working

Thanks for the heads up

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Quotey posted:

Have you guys considered that maybe you're just wrong about these Bolkshevik fellas, or whaztever hte disagreement with Mike is?

i just considered it and it turns out i was right

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

crepeface posted:

i just considered it and it turns out i was right

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Quotey posted:

Have you guys considered that maybe you're just wrong about these Bolkshevik fellas, or whaztever hte disagreement with Mike is?

I’m a Rlm thread poster and got real confused here

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

Xaris posted:

since im too lazy to PM everyone, anyone that's using my podcast feeds may need to update the links from [url]http://[/url] to [url]https://[/url] podurama decided to poo poo the bed and stop playing non-ssl cert feeds so that finally kicked me in the rear end to setup a letsencrypt cert on my nas. now it seems to be working

idk how to check that through pocketcasts, guess ill see which ones survive

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

i think its silly to say that duncan "took a hard right turn" or isnt a leftist or whatever. there are plenty of people on the left with bad takes on the soviets. its a big tent of dumb assholes we live in

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

err posted:

idk how to check that through pocketcasts, guess ill see which ones survive
if you're just using these feeds, you're fine

quote:

i only host a kill james bond, plastic pills, this machine kills, seeking derangements, hell of presidents, and your kickstarter sucks feed on my NAS so if you don't have those you're fine.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

jacques nooo

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

studio mujahideen posted:

i think its silly to say that duncan "took a hard right turn" or isnt a leftist or whatever. there are plenty of people on the left with bad takes on the soviets. its a big tent of dumb assholes we live in

lol, who cares if he's a 'leftist'. he can have that useless label

his analysis is bad, his brain got stuck into a mode where it removed all context on a podcast about history. people should not listen to that part, what's weird is thinking that this is saying something moral

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

studio mujahideen posted:

i think its silly to say that duncan "took a hard right turn" or isnt a leftist or whatever. there are plenty of people on the left with bad takes on the soviets. its a big tent of dumb assholes we live in

The people I follow have to be 100% consistent or else any good opinion they have is wholly invalidated by thinking wrong about one thing. I'm a leftist

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
Marx was a TERF

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Futanari Damacy posted:

The people I follow have to be 100% consistent or else any good opinion they have is wholly invalidated by thinking wrong about one thing. I'm a leftist

nah, i'm willing to talk even with the dumbest rear end in a top hat

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


I liked History of Rome and most of Revolutions, but he was never going have a great take on the Russian Revolution, there's just far too much bad liberal historiography out there on it to blind him

That his next podcast is going to be reviewing history books is going to be really telling, watch them review Snyder or Applebaum glowingly at some point

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

will only be listening to liberal podcasts in 2023

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