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FilthyImp posted:I thought he was in the Avatar State while in the bubble the whole time and just kind of burned out early. weird that the collective wisdom of several thousand past avatars froze him in a ball instead of doing the classic water tornado thing. one of the avatars must have fat fingered "make freeze ball thing and go to sleep" which is a pokemon-like softlock problem.
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KittyEmpress posted:The answer for why/how all air nomads were benders is in the prequel stuff. And yeah, it's that their pure and spiritual society and way of living made it so that they were closer to the spirits, and thus all of their children were born benders. So it's still inborn and someone cannot become a bender if not born one, and the incidence of such is tied to a specific set of cultural practices that are not available to most people?
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Neeksy posted:So it's still inborn and someone cannot become a bender if not born one, and the incidence of such is tied to a specific set of cultural practices that are not available to most people? Look if you're itching for Problematic power systems then nothing is as bad as The Incredibles
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mycot posted:Look if you're itching for Problematic power systems then nothing is as bad as The Incredibles There's a reason I hate superheroes as a genre – it's stuffed full of things like The Incredibles.
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Neeksy posted:There's a reason I hate superheroes as a genre – it's stuffed full of things like The Incredibles. The superhero genre would have been greatly improved if this were true 
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mycot posted:The superhero genre would have been greatly improved if this were true I would vastly prefer my stories not written by libertarians.
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The Incredibles 2 had none of the objectivism and was boring as sin. I can't even say "at least it looked nice" because the new superheroes looked like Clash of Clans characters.
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you know what was especially insulting about korra? it would have been one thing if the show stopped at like one or two seasons, because then you could at least justify the show being bad cause it was rushed and had a limited amount of time to tell the story. but it didn't stop there. it got 2 more seasons after, for a grand total of 52 episodes. it got millions of dollars and more time to flesh out the story/plot. it received the kinds of resources most shows would have killed for. and while sure, probably better than the first 2 seasons (very low bar btw), they still managed to waste it  Ups_rail posted:I read an article back in the day about jimmy neutron, how they made the assets for the movie and just recycled them for the show. you know i always wondered about this. if you're going through the effort of creating a 3D movie, reusing assets for a t.v. show seems like a no brainer. but jimmy neutron is one of the few t.v. adaptations that actually seems quite close to the movie. i mean, not a perfect 1:1 translation, sure, but far closer than say, something like penguins of madagascar. and i never really understood why. sure, you might not be allowed the same animation budget per episode as you would with a full movie, but i would think you could at least use high quality models, but a lot of shows don't even do that much.
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Mr Interweb posted:you know what was especially insulting about korra? it would have been one thing if the show stopped at like one or two seasons, because then you could at least justify the show being bad cause it was rushed and had a limited amount of time to tell the story. The kind of rendering environment for a film is different than the kind you'd use for television, and thus you have to adjust your designs and styles accordingly. You're not going to spend all that computer server crunch time for 300 minutes of content vs 120. You also have a different way of rigging things, as a lot of stuff is custom-made for the purposes of a scene or environment. Additionally your TV and film divisions are not the same people who worked on the film, those people are either all on the current feature projects, or have been sloughed off because the production of the film version ended years before the TV versions were planned.
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I know with Jimmy Neutron, a few things got new models halfway through the show. I'm not sure if that was an improvement in the technology or just a stylistic choice. The developing technology definitely was a factor in Reboot changing as time went on. One of the problems with CGI model reuse is that it's harder for shows to organically develop over time (which they usually will as they find their feet and create a style from the artists having to do the same things over and over). If a CGI thing wants to grow and develop, it has to do throw out most of its old investment to manually redesign everything. Neeksy posted:There's a reason I hate superheroes as a genre – it's stuffed full of things like The Incredibles. Sometimes it's better to just not try following the path of a movie to extrapolate it into direct metaphors or allegories for the real world. It gets weirdest with the subversions, because when people try to mix things up, there's a lot of threads that you can pull on that just unravel the entire premise. Or people trying to tell entirely worthless lessons with morals that make no sense out of context.
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Junpei posted:I remember Libby going from green dress and long straight hair to pink shirt and dreads during an episode based in a pyramid, at the very minimum. Ah Yes, the Pink Shirt Libby arc that drew much exasperation.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Sometimes it's better to just not try following the path of a movie to extrapolate it into direct metaphors or allegories for the real world. And it entirely depends on the reading anyway. Especially since a lot of people just bring in an axe to grind as it is. Hell, you can read The Incredibles as a socialist work with the superheroes as a social safety net, which was destroyed because of petty complaints, greatly empowering the wealthy who can use it as an excuse to step in with a private sector solution. Bob is literally forced to work under predatory capitalism destroying the lives of the vulnerable and it's literally illegal for him to use his abilities to help people. The theme is even not about individualism or personal fame and fortune but cooperation and compromise both with individuals and with society for the sake of safe and peaceful living.
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The thing that gets me about Incredibles 2 is that it was what should have been the first two minutes (tops) of the sequel stretched out into the entire movie, and thus half of it just feels like it's retreading the same ground as the original. And then there's the whole thing with the villain's whole reason for being is because she has a chip on her shoulder with superheroes... because her father was a dumbass who couldn't just hide himself from some burglars.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Sometimes it's better to just not try following the path of a movie to extrapolate it into direct metaphors or allegories for the real world. Well that kind of attitude isn't gonna get you any sort of clicks! Don't you know how to criticize media in the 21st century?
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SlothfulCobra posted:I know with Jimmy Neutron, a few things got new models halfway through the show. I'm not sure if that was an improvement in the technology or just a stylistic choice. The developing technology definitely was a factor in Reboot changing as time went on. I do recall they changed Libby's hair permanently to what was originally meant to just be a one off style change because they accidentally deleted the original hair style model and it was simpler just to continue using the new style rather than remake her original one Junpei posted:I remember Libby going from green dress and long straight hair to pink shirt and dreads during an episode based in a pyramid, at the very minimum. That's the one, though she doesn't change outfits till after that episode Ghost Leviathan posted:And it entirely depends on the reading anyway. Especially since a lot of people just bring in an axe to grind as it is. That's pretty much how I always read the film, also Incredibles did a couple things with how it handled Supers that was actually pretty smart, like how the vast majority of them only had a couple powers at most(and most only had like one or two of them) and how enhanced durability is actually a really rare power(indeed aside from Mr Incredible only like one or two other heroes actually had any real degree of it and his was the highest, and while Elastigirl has a bit too that has more to do with how her stretching powers work than it being a distinct ability) thus both the "No Capes" montage and how Syndrome was able to wipe out most of them in the intervening years(indeed every single hero that was able to defeat an Omnidroid prior to Mr Incredible notably had a ranged power that presumably allowed them to defeat it before it could get into range, with the subsequent model also presumably having been upgraded to neutralize that particular advantage) Regalingualius posted:The thing that gets me about Incredibles 2 is that it was what should have been the first two minutes (tops) of the sequel stretched out into the entire movie, and thus half of it just feels like it's retreading the same ground as the original. To be frank I'm not sure there's a single thing Incredibles 2 does right(aside from a couple very minor things like slight improvements to the designs of the returning characters from the first film), though it's still far from the worst theatrically released Disney sequel, after all Ralph Breaks The Internet and Toy Story 4 also exist
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I'm usually very lenient with media. There's stuff I greatly dislike but i can at least appreciate that it's meant for different tastes or whatever, and even if that's not the case there's very, very little that hits The Incredible 2's tier of "this has no meaning or value and shouldn't exist" The whole drat movie is just pulling back on the last like fifteen minutes of the original and doing it again. The end point is the exact same. Nothing is gained by no one. There's almost no cool or fun interactions to justify a retread that spins its wheels. There was just loving nothing there.
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MorningMoon posted:I'm usually very lenient with media. There's stuff I greatly dislike but i can at least appreciate that it's meant for different tastes or whatever, and even if that's not the case there's very, very little that hits The Incredible 2's tier of "this has no meaning or value and shouldn't exist" I feel like an overriding impetus for Incredibles 2 was 'let's have Elasti-Girl do more action things' which is not a bad idea but is not the core of a movie.
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drrockso20 posted:... lol at fat fingering delete, empty recycle bin, also Gutman-DoD 35 secure delete for show assets. Which Pixar movie was almost lost to computer troubles but was saved by one of the artists have a home setup with like most of the stuff?
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PhazonLink posted:lol at fat fingering delete, empty recycle bin, also Gutman-DoD 35 secure delete for show assets. Pretty sure it was Toy Story 2. Then they found it and thought that version was garbo, so they completely redid it in a massive crunch work period over like 9 months. https://thenextweb.com/news/how-pixars-toy-story-2-was-deleted-twice-once-by-technology-and-again-for-its-own-good - here's an article that goes over it in a bit of depth.
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Regalingualius posted:And then there's the whole thing with the villain's whole reason for being is because she has a chip on her shoulder with superheroes... because her father was a dumbass who couldn't just hide himself from some burglars. They live in a big mansion outside of the city and he hired the equivalents of Cyclops and Pyro to protect them. My dude. Someone who can fly. Someone who can teleport. Someone who can actually get to you in a time of need. You don't enter the Indy 500 in a Geo Metro. It's a bad idea.
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Inkspot posted:They live in a big mansion outside of the city and he hired the equivalents of Cyclops and Pyro to protect them.
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Duck Amuck except at the end it's David Zaslav erasing all the Looney Tunes going "Ain't I a stinker?"
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FilthyImp posted:apparently they want to license this poo poo out to Pluto TV or someshit. God I hate this stupid merger so much Licensing out to the free players in the field makes sense, but why make it exclusive?
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Pakled posted:What could the reason be for this one? Surely they can't use it as a tax write-off. Is this some weird attempt to create artificial scarcity like the Disney vault, a concept that should be 100% dead in the streaming era? As usual, it's to cut the hundreds of dollars it would cost them to pay accountants to figure the pennies they'd be printing out to send to the estates of Mel Blanc and so on. It's ridiculous penny-pinching--real penny-wise pound-foolish poo poo.
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New promo video from Disney containing some scenes from the next episode of The Owl House, Molly McGee Season 2, and other shows. https://youtube.com/watch?v=t_qUdLeKQA8 Speaking of Molly, we STILL don’t have a release date yet beyond sometime this year do we?
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Not that it super matters but I'll just say Warner Bros Discovery stock is the lowest Warner stock has been worth since November 2008 at roughly 9 usd. The closest to that low is during the Great Recession when it was 7 USD. It has dropped from 53 USD in February 2021 to 9 USD in January 2023. All I'm saying is that David's plans aren't going over well with shareholders.
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The good ones were all from the fifties... checks Wikipedia Oof. At least I don't think anyone is missing Injun Trouble.
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:The good ones were all from the fifties... Injun Trouble kinda highlights changing transit systems because it was both a 1938 and a 1969 cartoon, and the pun switched from train to car. Also the 1969 one was both more racist and an objectively worse cartoon without a plot. I feel like the more racist Looney Tunes often tend to be worse in other ways not pertaining to the racism as well.
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Larryb posted:New promo video from Disney containing some scenes from the next episode of The Owl House, Molly McGee Season 2, and other shows. I know nothing about Ladybug, but a young girl saying "I'll never give you my Miraculous" is upsetting without context.
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