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Carr is also going to turn 32, and I suspect the trend of QBs being reliable starters deep in their 30s was mostly an outlier led by Brady, Brees, and Rodgers. Ryan/Wilson/Flacco fell off a cliff, Stafford/Garoppolo/Tannehill are all struggling with injuries, Dalton isn't much better than replacement level. That leaves... Kirk Cousins?
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Dec 28, 2022 20:55
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Dec 28, 2022 20:57
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abelwingnut posted:then, serviceable: rodgers, garoppolo, jones, cousins, et al. they don't win you games ouright, but they don't lose you games. Are we trying to sneak Daniel Jones or Mac Jones in with the Rodgers tier? I’m not sure which one would be worse.
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kidcoelacanth posted:i would take carr on the bucs immediately Are you counting out Touchdown Tom?
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Diva Cupcake posted:Are we trying to sneak Daniel Jones or Mac Jones in with the Rodgers tier? I’m not sure which one would be worse. i was speaking of daniel. yes, rodgers can air it out at times and jones can't. but rodgers has been flakier this season than any other, and daniel jones has been making passes when he needs to and, more importantly, not turning the ball over. they each take a different path to being serviceably above average at this point imo. mac is just flat terrible.
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fartknocker posted:Today is a rough day for Mark Davis: COME ON! Everyone loves boobs.
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Dec 28, 2022 21:03
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I can’t believe the refs would do this to Derek Carr and the Raiders. The conspiracy is bottomless
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abelwingnut posted:yea, there are definitely more gradations than elite and terrible. I've been on the internet long enough to know that this isn't true about anything.
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I feel like this season has been goddamn brutal for quarterbacks. Here's my tally of what happened with each team's starting quarterback through 16 weeks: Nine starting quarterbacks who have been largely or entirely healthy and performing well enough to remain the starter over the course of the season. Nine. What the gently caress?
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Dec 28, 2022 21:08
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surf rock posted:I feel like this season has been goddamn brutal for quarterbacks. Here's my tally of what happened with each team's starting quarterback through 16 weeks: Don’t forget Dak missed 5 games earlier this year, so it’s really only 8. Also Cleveland Browns should mention it was Benched for a Rapist.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean Carr is throwing a ton of picks, the absolute worst thing a QB can do. So let’s not pretend he’s being only mediocre He’s thrown 21 TDs to 14 ints. Dak is 20-12. Rodgers is 24-11. Neither of those guys is having an amazing season but by current league standards they’re at least mediocre. SKULL.GIF posted:Ryan/Wilson/Flacco fell off a cliff, Stafford/Garoppolo/Tannehill are all struggling with injuries, Dalton isn't much better than replacement level. That leaves... Kirk Cousins? Flacco was never that good and Ryan really didn’t get bad bad until this year when his line couldn’t stand up to a three man rush. Garappolo has struggled with injuries his entire career so I don’t think you can blame that on age. Stafford is beat up this year but just won a Super Bowl last year. Carr at 32 seems like a good gamble for a whole lot of teams to take if the price isn’t too high. He’s been pretty healthy most of his career and he’s taken like half the sacks Wilson and Stafford did. YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Dec 28, 2022 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Carr is also going to turn 32, and I suspect the trend of QBs being reliable starters deep in their 30s was mostly an outlier led by Brady, Brees, and Rodgers. You forgot the most obvious one, Russell Wilson.
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https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1608185594009554947 He has a full no trade clause though so that probably increases the chance that he is released.
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Carr for nothing but cash vs Lamar for 3 first's and 2 second's plus 200 million fully guaranteed is at least a conversation imo
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Oh god I just remembered how Kirk missed the packers game the other year due to covid. What a perfect way to end the season would be Kirk getting covid right before the playoff game.
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mcmagic posted:Carr for nothing but cash vs Lamar for 3 first's and 2 second's plus 200 million fully guaranteed is at least a conversation imo Yeah Lamar is getting 255 minimum lol. No way he's going to settle for less than Watson nor should he
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Yeah Lamar is getting 255 minimum lol. No way he's going to settle for less than Watson nor should he You're right. I was talking ballpark.
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Preparing my body to celebrate when McDaniels trades a 1st for Mac Jones.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:He’s thrown 21 TDs to 14 ints. Dak is 20-12. Rodgers is 24-11. Neither of those guys is having an amazing season but by current league standards they’re at least mediocre. If you go by percentage of attempts that resulting in picks he's pretty bad though. Slumming it in the Zach Wilson / Matt Ryan / Kenny Pickett tier. Also almost last in completion percentage, the only 2 worse being both Wilsons (lol).
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Preparing my body to celebrate when McDaniels trades a 1st for Mac Jones. No one is that stupid........ are they? ARE THEY?
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Josh McDaniels spent a 1st on Tim Tebow my man. Edit: Also the Raiders are already doing a bang up job of sinking Carr's trade value by telegraphing that they want to get rid of him.
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Reminder that Tim Tebow has more playoff wins than Carr
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Diva Cupcake posted:https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1608185594009554947 I mean unless the Raiders are being idiots they will work with Carr to get a deal that he would accept. That’s what the Packers did for Adams and he didn’t even have any clauses
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Josh McDaniels was in New England with Stidham was drafted but sure, he needs to get a look.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Preparing my body to celebrate when McDaniels trades a 1st for Mac Jones. I hope in the press conference Josh McDaniels mentions that Mac Jones is an NFL top 100 player
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Woozie66 posted:https://twitter.com/robertmays/status/1608183399516180480?t=2bNRf8o19qp6ftrF4CG9YQ&s=19 this is where the league is though. If you dont have a top 10 guy you are hosed. The qb protection and passing rules encourage this imo having an elite guy feels like you might get more roughing calls (whether or not the data bears this out im not going to look)
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Josh McDaniels spent a 1st on Tim Tebow my man. Tim Tebow should be first in everyone's book. With the possible exception of Jesus.
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Carr to Miami would make sense https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/1608199233378598912?s=46&t=V73lMZaj_CttS6aYMNwFNw
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Even though he got a big rookie contract, I just can't see Tua retiring before he's played at least one truly big QB contract.
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EmbryoSteve posted:this is where the league is though. If you dont have a top 10 guy you are hosed. The qb protection and passing rules encourage this imo having an elite guy feels like you might get more roughing calls (whether or not the data bears this out im not going to look) <Looks at the 49ers and Vikings> Nah. Broncos and Jets just needed middling play and they'd be playoff teams. Pats need that and an OC and they're set. Saints and Steelers are at least reasonable teams with that.
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Carr should go to Indy because that is just what Indy’s gimmick
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Docjowles posted:If you go by percentage of attempts that resulting in picks he's pretty bad though. Slumming it in the Zach Wilson / Matt Ryan / Kenny Pickett tier. Also almost last in completion percentage, the only 2 worse being both Wilsons (lol). According to PFF, Carr is 17th in percentage of turnover worthy plays. Notable QBs with a higher percentage are Josh Allen (leads the league), Justin Fields, Tua, Jared Goff, Kyler Murray, Geno Smith, etc. I’m not sure that’s indicative of much.
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carr seems like a cool dude. i have no reason to dislike him or anything. here's hoping he heads to a better situation. i think he'd be pretty awesome in detroit or tennessee, personally.
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abelwingnut posted:carr seems like a cool dude. i have no reason to dislike him or anything. here's hoping he heads to a better situation. I'm not sure he's an upgrade in either place
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Carr is a perfect fit in the long line of mediocre Colts QBs post Luck/Rivers
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soggybagel posted:https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1608178542977613827?s=20&t=aQfuso7BnHoq3fw99EDRiQ It's weird to me that people still aren't realizing this was the plan from day 1.
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FizFashizzle posted:Carr to Miami would make sense He looks ready to listen to some Fallout Boy.
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