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DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Guavanaut posted:

So if they're going to let victims decide on the punishment and also keep loving that war on drugs chicken, who decides what the punishment of someone convicted of a victimless crime is to be?

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Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

Speaking of gaming, Warhammer is a great thing to be into as an adult, because by that point you typically have the income required to indulge in the hobby as well as experience and knowledge to make a good job of assembling and painting. Its also great for getting gifts, because while Warhammer isn't cheap by any measure, its at that sweet spot as an adult where its not too expensive for a Christmas gift.

As for bang for buck, getting the Xbox Series X via the All Access scheme is one of the best decisions I've made in ages. £28.99 a month for two years and you get the console and 2 years of Game Pass Ultimate.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
"give the victims of antisocial behaviour the power to decide how perpetrators are punished", eh?

Can't see this going wrong at all.

Better turn your hi-fi midi stereos with graphic equalisers down, people.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

well to those boys speeding and doing donuts in the car park, i’m afraid the sentence is…death

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Jel Shaker posted:

well to those boys speeding and doing donuts in the car park, i’m afraid the sentence is…death

Someone good at photoshop please do a robocop or Judge Dredd with starmer's fizzog.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Jel Shaker posted:

as far as i can gather Epic store pays the publisher as normal, it’s just that they’re making mind boggling amounts of money off Fortnight so it’s pissing in the wind relatively speaking, but they’re trying to diversify their business and eat valves lunch

Think i've gotten around twenty of their weekly "Free Games" over the last couple of years.

Barely played any of them (my Steam Library overfloweth) but i only select titles that i would actually enjoy and are a good way to stop any impulse buying cravings i have. :shrug:

Steam purchases nowadays are limited to games that i have on my wishlist along with a big On Sale discount.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
RoboStarmer's Directive 4 would be "Do not act against the interests of global capital". Not that it would ever be triggered by his actions.

Tesseraction posted:

Have you tried the rebooted Tomb Raider series or the Horizon: Zero Dawn / Forbidden West games?
Played all the Tomb Raiders (all the way back to PS1). Shadow screwed the pooch in terms of the overall story, though: "the Big Bads from the previous games who are the architects of all Lara's pain? They, er, died offscreen in a helicopter crash. Anyway, moving swiftly along..."

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Payndz posted:

RoboStarmer's Directive 4 would be "Do not act against the interests of global capital". Not that it would ever be triggered by his actions.

Played all the Tomb Raiders (all the way back to PS1). Shadow screwed the pooch in terms of the overall story, though: "the Big Bads from the previous games who are the architects of all Lara's pain? They, er, died offscreen in a helicopter crash. Anyway, moving swiftly along..."

You might like Horizon then (because yeah Shadow's plot overall was pretty crappy compared to the gameplay) whereas Horizon I think is pretty solid, and the series basically turns to camera to call Elon Musk a oval office.

Otherwise if you like Far Cry then the Dying Light series might tickle an itch.

For hack'n'slash style the Ys series is pretty good - if you're okay with the pixelated 3d style from the early days then Ys Origin is a great intro to the series and I personally love the soundtrack.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I really didn't like the combat in horizon which is why I stopped playing it before finishing it, the setting is cool though and it's quite character driven for an action game.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Just Another Lurker posted:

Steam purchases nowadays are limited to games that i have on my wishlist along with a big On Sale discount.
:same:

Last one was Blasphemous, at a huge black friday discount. Good fun if you enjoy 90s Castlevanias, meticulous minmaxing with items, and fighting 4th century popes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO5cPHNsnfo

:spain: dot game

Payndz posted:

RoboStarmer's Directive 4 would be "Do not act against the interests of global capital". Not that it would ever be triggered by his actions.
Serve the public office
Define the innocent
Invent some laws

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

As I get older I find that I keep coming back to games that allow me to build the house/society of my dreams.

Hell yes I enjoy setting up the fully electrified tram socialist republic, or building a beautiful timber house in valheim.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

I really didn't like the combat in horizon which is why I stopped playing it before finishing it, the setting is cool though and it's quite character driven for an action game.

Zero Dawn I assume? That's a shame as while I initially sucked at it I came around to liking the hybrid warfare - the second game allows you to be a lot more stealthy too, even for some of the bigger motherfuckers.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tesseraction posted:

Zero Dawn I assume? That's a shame as while I initially sucked at it I came around to liking the hybrid warfare - the second game allows you to be a lot more stealthy too, even for some of the bigger motherfuckers.

Mostly I just really don't like the bow and arrow system, it probably works better on a controller but that combined with shooting weak bits off enemies just made it very tedious for me. I mostly found myself wanting to not fight anything except at some point I had to fight one of those big bird things and it saved me at the start of the fight and I didn't have much stuff left so I just died a lot and put it away.

It combines something I am not very good at which is precision aiming, with something that makes it much harder which is delayed firing.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

OzyMandrill posted:

I used to be a massive 4x fan until I discovered Oxygen Not Included, the perfect blend of exploration, exploitation, and accidentally letting the pisstank overflow into the lava pit and killing everyone with superhot steam.

Ahhh, so that's where Rings of Power got it from

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

Mostly I just really don't like the bow and arrow system, it probably works better on a controller but that combined with shooting weak bits off enemies just made it very tedious for me. I mostly found myself wanting to not fight anything except at some point I had to fight one of those big bird things and it saved me at the start of the fight and I didn't have much stuff left so I just died a lot and put it away.

It combines something I am not very good at which is precision aiming, with something that makes it much harder which is delayed firing.

Oh right yeah the game would suck poo poo on mouse and keyboard.

After being a purist for a bit I've come to learn that some games are controller-ideal. Don't blame you for hating it mousestyle.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tesseraction posted:

Oh right yeah the game would suck poo poo on mouse and keyboard.

After being a purist for a bit I've come to learn that some games are controller-ideal. Don't blame you for hating it mousestyle.

The only one that has managed to persuade me off M&K is the souls games because they require no aiming, I aim even worse on a controller than I do on M&K so I dunno if I could deal with it on either tbh given that it relies heavily on that. I assume there's some sort of autoaim system involved that makes it manageable.

I am tempted to pick up elden ring before the steam sale ends but supposedly it is hard as balls and I worry I might not get back into it as I didn't finish DS3 despite loving DS1 and 2.

EdBlackadder
Apr 8, 2009
Lipstick Apathy
Elde Ring really isn't hard, I'm certifiably bad at games and I've cleared the main game twice. There's a good challenge but so many tools you can use it's never unfair.

And at worst you can bugger off and over-level then loop back.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Bugger it then, will pick it up and give it a crack at some point. If I suck poo poo at it I'm blaming you though :P

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Bring back ASBOs but they're that one Black Mirror episode where the public gets to hound people through a weird punishment theme park game show before the crim's mind is wiped every night to start it over again in the morning - Labour Manifesto 2024

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Is there even a significant problem of "antisocial behaviour"? I feel like that's something that is well outside the current crop of Very Legitimate Concerns that people are having right now.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
:psyduck: moment - I absolutely destroyed Dark Souls on M&K using that fix for the original crappy port, was it just called "MouseFix"? Something like that.

Few years later, finally got a controller (the famous X360/PC Common Controller for Windows) and decided to give it a go again, y'know, the proper way. Couldn't manage it at all. All the muscle memories were going all the wrong ways!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

The only one that has managed to persuade me off M&K is the souls games because they require no aiming, I aim even worse on a controller than I do on M&K so I dunno if I could deal with it on either tbh given that it relies heavily on that. I assume there's some sort of autoaim system involved that makes it manageable.

I am tempted to pick up elden ring before the steam sale ends but supposedly it is hard as balls and I worry I might not get back into it as I didn't finish DS3 despite loving DS1 and 2.

There's auto-aim in things like Horizon as well to counter the fact that a controller is poo poo for aiming, especially with the fiddly bits of the game. Hell as someone who's used analogue sticks since the PSX I sometimes have to disable aim-assist because I'm better than what it assumes I'm like.

Either way, don't be afraid to try controllers on games because you're worried about the aim difficulty; any game dev worth their salt will have factored in controllers and relative skill levels.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

Is there even a significant problem of "antisocial behaviour"? I feel like that's something that is well outside the current crop of Very Legitimate Concerns that people are having right now.

it's genuinely loving terrible, for years now it's been ruining my life and that of everyone around me

problem is it's the government

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




OwlFancier posted:

Bugger it then, will pick it up and give it a crack at some point. If I suck poo poo at it I'm blaming you though :P

Elden Ring absolutely is hard, it’s just not as hard as other soulsbornes.

I bought and finished it hoping it might finally be the time the formula ‘clicked’ for me like everyone insists it will every time they put one of these games out but no, it’s still just masochistic self-flagellation masquerading as gameplay.

I’m pretty comfortable that I’ve got that particular monkey off my back though, I don’t need to buy anymore of them now that I played one all the way through and still thought it was ultimately the antithesis of a good time. It had its moments but nothing that made me think it was anywhere near worth the rabid hype it inspires in the fans.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

it's genuinely loving terrible, for years now it's been ruining my life and that of everyone around me

problem is it's the government
The first "antisocial behaviour" was that woman who claimed that there was no such thing as society.

Then she wrote a terrible book about atlases and then another lady made the exact same claim 30 years later.

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016

History Comes Inside! posted:

I don’t need to buy anymore of them now that I played one all the way through and still thought it was the antithesis of a good time.

This is the way.

Best way: play thru it with a trainer to get past whatever spoilers and story there is, then you can relax and watch an edited youtube of someone else beating their head against it.

Oh that thing was called DSfix.

And Labour are just feeling their oats. The solutions to actual problems would involve TAXING THE RICH, building houses, increasing wages, nationalising industries, improving benefits and so on, all desperately needed fixes, and all desperately to be avoided. But you can always get someone to kick a young person or a minority, that doesn't cost anything.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Souls games are absolutely not for everyone and it's rather annoying that people say that they are. I beat DS1 and enjoyed it, I started DS2 and it sucked, I got to the final boss of DS3 and couldn't beat him in the first session and then decided who gives a gently caress.

They're hard games, often deliberately dicking you over to increase difficulty. Cool. If you like it, go hog wild. Having played most of FromSoftware's catalogue, I've decided that their games are fun, but not mandatory to have an opinion on what is or isn't an acceptable level of difficulty.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

The first "antisocial behaviour" was that woman who claimed that there was no such thing as society.

Then she wrote a terrible book about atlases and then another lady made the exact same claim 30 years later.

that first lady? Eva Braun

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

History Comes Inside! posted:

Elden Ring absolutely is hard, it’s just not as hard as other soulsbornes.

I bought and finished it hoping it might finally be the time the formula ‘clicked’ for me like everyone insists it will every time they put one of these games out but no, it’s still just masochistic self-flagellation masquerading as gameplay.

I’m pretty comfortable that I’ve got that particular monkey off my back though, I don’t need to buy anymore of them now that I played one all the way through and still thought it was ultimately the antithesis of a good time. It had its moments but nothing that made me think it was anywhere near worth the rabid hype it inspires in the fans.

I generally get on very well with the souls games because I usually find they reward being very cautious and methodical which is how I play exploration focused games anyway. I think my issue with DS3 was it has a very... weird mess of a setting even for a souls game and I couldn't settle on a character build. I played the first half or so many times and couldn't decide what I wanted to do. Weirdly though I got on quite well with DS2 despite its idea of level design being taking a lift up from the top of a tower and coming out at the bottom of a lava castle.

Never played bloodborne cos no playstation but I probably would have had more issue cos I could never do parrying, same with sekiro, don't think I would click with that. I do appreciate the idea of utterly stunting on a dude though by having godlike timing.

On the fromsoft topic though they're bringing out a new armoured core game which I am interested to see how it goes. I couldn't click with AC4 but I played the hell out of AC1 and 2.

Only Kindness posted:

And Labour are just feeling their oats.

If I do that in public I get an ASBO and put on a register.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Dec 29, 2022

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Oh then you’ll probably love it, vote 5 go hogwild

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
There's no such thing as society, I say, while dismantling all avenues of social cohesion.

Even numpties like George Constanza and Mr Joker (Batman's friend) know we're living in a society.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
On topic of videos game and atlas shrugging, I keep getting this weird sponsored video whenever I have ads on, so I guess we're doing Bioshock but as Brain Force Plus pills now :cool: :toot:



Always put deep sea plasmids into you are self.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

love my amazing nobel prize discovery where we blur the guy out

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
They don't want you to know who really won the Nobel Prize for typing 'lab guy' into a stock photo site.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


EdBlackadder posted:

Elde Ring really isn't hard, I'm certifiably bad at games and I've cleared the main game twice. There's a good challenge but so many tools you can use it's never unfair.

The feeling of progression from when the tutorial 'boss' stops being a 'sod this I'll never play a DS game' wall to something you roll over without stopping on a new play through is so so good.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Guavanaut posted:

They don't want you to know who really won the Nobel Prize for typing 'lab guy' into a stock photo site.

actually if you must know, he’s the brother of the scientist who discovered a way to make water a free source of energy but who was mysteriously killed by exxon before he could publish his discovery, so a bit of secrecy is just sensible at this point

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

OwlFancier posted:


Never played bloodborne cos no playstation but I probably would have had more issue cos I could never do parrying, same with sekiro, don't think I would click with that. I do appreciate the idea of utterly stunting on a dude though by having godlike timing.

I got through Bloodborne without being able to parry for poo poo, and it's actually easier in that game since you can do it at range.

Bloodborne also has a relatively easy levelling exploit, you need to beat a few hard early bosses but once you've unlocked the cum dungeon you can power level past a lot of roadblock enemies.

Bloodborne has the coolest setting, plot and weapons of all the Souls games, so well worth playing if you've ever been tempted.

Best Souls boss is still Gael though, the only boss I was genuinely sad to have beaten.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jel Shaker posted:

actually if you must know, he’s the brother of the scientist who discovered a way to make water a free source of energy but who was mysteriously killed by exxon before he could publish his discovery, so a bit of secrecy is just sensible at this point
My favourite one of those was the English inventor who claimed he made a self-powering motor generator that could run his whole house, but it got so powerful that it shot up into the sky through the roof of his shed.

And that is why when the police investigated him for abstracting electricity and tampering with his meter all they could find was some ripped out copper wiring and a huge gap in his meter readings. The real motor is still whirling around in the stratosphere under its own power.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That would make a fun SCP article.

I think there is at least one where they accidentally create a source of infinite energy and are now having a lot of trouble stopping it from exploding the entire planet. Though personally I would think they could just connect it to the mass-energy powered bog roll dispenser.

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HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Kegluneq posted:


Best Souls boss is still Gael though, the only boss I was genuinely sad to have beaten.

wow look at this person who doesn't care about Sif

hate dogs, do you? INTERESTING

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