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15 | 3.71% |
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The big one for ground vehicles I recall was already described up-thread: big piece with video about how good the Ukrainians are at fixing things, followed shortly after by missile strikes on same location. oops. There was another reported that I think was specific to shell and artillery production/repair. And a bunch of aircraft and train component facilities. Ammo Depot strikes get claimed a lot, some credibly, some not. And the attempted strike on a military facility using AS-4s that caught the mall next door on fire.
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mlmp is always concerned with the accuracy and precision of language but never with the accuracy and precision of us munitions, curious
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Dec 29, 2022 01:47
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November poll: US public dropping in willingness to provide long-term support for Ukraine, generally thinks neither side is winning. https://globalaffairs.org/research/...ll-Ukraine-data Notable that the general public's assessment is that neither side has a real advantage 
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Dec 29, 2022 01:50
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redneck nazgul posted:mlmp is always concerned with the accuracy and precision of language but never with the accuracy and precision of us munitions, curious I'm not reading the other threads, but I'm pretty sure mlmp is concerned about accuracy of us weapons in threads where dumb pedantic slapfights are to be had over those.
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Dec 29, 2022 01:50
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redneck nazgul posted:mlmp is always concerned with the accuracy and precision of language but never with the accuracy and precision of us munitions, curious you ever see this video? collateral murder? it shows how guns are far less accurate than most people expect - just completely whiffing on a military unit. chilling stuff
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Dec 29, 2022 01:51
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Slavvy posted:Look it's very simple. Just stop responding to him, stop touching the poop, that's all you need to do you neurotic bastards please can people do this
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Dec 29, 2022 01:52
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genericnick posted:I'm not reading the other threads, but I'm pretty sure mlmp is concerned about accuracy of us weapons in threads where dumb pedantic slapfights are to be had over those. I made some people very, very mad when I pointed out that Russian inaccurate munitions or dogshit targeting are not the same in intent as specifically aiming into an apartment full of civilians for no good reason. Indiscriminate fire is very bad, but some people really need to believe that every time Russia sucks at aiming, it's a deliberate attack on some empty field or apartment.
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Dec 29, 2022 01:52
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Рыбарь posted:
it's infrastructure week in russia
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Dec 29, 2022 01:58
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As far as the pollling, it doesn't look like "claimed forum concensus" (which is the Ukrainians are absolutely smashing the Russia at every step doesn't) match that of the American public and if anything certain threads are rather extreme outliers versus the public (they wouldn't just say there is just an advantage but Russia is on its last legs as a country etc etc). Basically, more than usual, it is certainly arguable that the SA forums in terms of inter-forum narrative are not representative of even the United States much less international options. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 02:02 on Dec 29, 2022 |
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Dec 29, 2022 01:58
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mlmp08 posted:I made some people very, very mad when I pointed out that Russian inaccurate munitions or dogshit targeting are not the same in intent as specifically aiming into an apartment full of civilians for no good reason. Indiscriminate fire is very bad, but some people really need to believe that every time Russia sucks at aiming, it's a deliberate attack on some empty field or apartment. It's always a Schrödinger Russian army. They are untrained and incompetent while also striking civilian structure on purpose because of their love for war crimes. They also need to be stopped at all cost or they will then invade other ex republics (most of which are already in NATO) but NATO would roll on Moscow in 3 days flat.
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Dec 29, 2022 02:00
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"Russia has failed in its strategic objectives so far, but Ukraine is still in a terribly difficult and unenviable position," remains my general take. Probably for like.... 9+ months now?
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Dec 29, 2022 02:03
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https://twitter.com/ruinwanderer/status/1608219967215771650
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Dec 29, 2022 02:15
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 that's a shitload of brigades for one irrelevant town
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Dec 29, 2022 02:19
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https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/...ingawful.com%2F
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Ardennes posted:Basically, more than usual, it is certainly arguable that the SA forums in terms of inter-forum narrative are not representative of even the United States much less international options. Yeah. Though this is true of so many topics. It's a forum that's largely middle-aged dudes who come from the weird and rare group of "Oughts Forums Posters." Its demography probably looks absolutely nothing like the average American (or for posters from elsewhere, not like the average person).
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Dec 29, 2022 02:44
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Like everything else about this war, it is a crappy eastern front reenactment and those brigades are platoons in actuality
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Dec 29, 2022 02:59
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how about the platoon tactical group and it's a tank, a howitzer, and a BMP
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A Russian troll farm posted:how about the platoon tactical group and it's a tank, a howitzer, and a BMP Four Tank-Men and a Dog
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Dec 29, 2022 03:04
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lobotomy molo posted:regarde wasn’t wrong they’re excellent retrievers It's funny because Chase really does act like a cop in the show, bossing people around to maintain law and order. In a later season, they double him up as a surveillance specialist, which just lol. I'm not entirely sure it's tongue in cheek, either.
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Dec 29, 2022 03:12
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mlmp08 posted:Yeah. Though this is true of so many topics. It's a forum that's largely middle-aged dudes who come from the weird and rare group of "Oughts Forums Posters." Its demography probably looks absolutely nothing like the average American (or for posters from elsewhere, not like the average person). Yeah, though there is also the phenomenon that people who follow the news- as it were - increasingly fall down arbitrarily deep rabit holes. There were always cranks and ops, but I really don't remember anything like Russia gate or quanon from the old days. We've come a long way with the brain breaking technology.
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Dec 29, 2022 03:22
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Is the city gonna be called Hacibey again.
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Dec 29, 2022 03:22
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mlmp08 posted:Sounds interesting, got any links reference that event? Friend, this is how you should be posting instead of as confrontationally as you sometimes do. It's something that I struggle with too sometimes. It obscures your many interesting contributions.
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Dec 29, 2022 03:27
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https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1608223719314395142?t=XyOYaYeHHp03pQMbrgjrEg&s=19 Tearing down the statues of a Spaniard, German, and a Flemish guy as part of deRussification. Catherine the Great was all about having modern Ukraine be developed as a pan-European project to make the land productive and create a bulwark against the Eurasian hordes. Zelensky stole her pitch, but said the enemy was in Moscow instead of Constantinople. Edit: I was just looking for more info on what statues were taken down tonight and came across this account after a search. I didn't realize it's the same one I saw yesterday threatening Serbs with ethnic cleansing. I think they might be German which makes it even weirder. Atrocious Joe has issued a correction as of 03:46 on Dec 29, 2022 |
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Dec 29, 2022 03:39
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Ardennes posted:As far as the pollling, it doesn't look like "claimed forum concensus" (which is the Ukrainians are absolutely smashing the Russia at every step doesn't) match that of the American public and if anything certain threads are rather extreme outliers versus the public (they wouldn't just say there is just an advantage but Russia is on its last legs as a country etc etc). A lot of it is that people on here are a small demographic (compared to the US population) of terminally online/Twitter brained people who for some reason think your average person even cares about most of this stuff. Like 1/5 of US adults actually use Twitter yet there are people on here (SomethingAwful) who will claim to you that if Twitter went away tomorrow the front lines will collapse and Joe Biden will forget to send money/arms to Ukraine.
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Dec 29, 2022 03:45
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BadOptics posted:A lot of it is that people on here are a small demographic (compared to the US population) of terminally online/Twitter brained people who for some reason think your average person even cares about most of this stuff. Like 1/5 of US adults actually use Twitter yet there are people on here (SomethingAwful) who will claim to you that if Twitter went away tomorrow the front lines will collapse and Joe Biden will forget to send money/arms to Ukraine. Yeah, it is also let’s be honest white American males in their 30s/early 40s who often work in IT are a very specific slice of the pie and I am not surprised the forums are alienating to everyone else who doesn’t give a poo poo about some inside joke from 15 years ago or the latest scoop about a war happening on the other side of the world. It is a very very specific perspective. Also to be honest, Cspam is a bit better, but I think there is also a widening generation gap with younger people. Zoomers are still more or less a punch line on the forums. I guess enough of meta-forums discussion but I really don’t think this thread is that nuts or out on a limb, and a lot of CSpam views (with certain exceptions) are a lot less radical than people think. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 04:25 on Dec 29, 2022 |
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Dec 29, 2022 04:04
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Hmm i'm beginning to think wars could be thinly veiled excuses to transfer wealth from ordinary people to defence contractors Denmark may cancel national prayer day to help pay for weapons quote:Just as Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen was due to begin a second term as Denmark’s leader this month, she caused an uproar by proposing a contentious way to provide more funding for the military: cancelling a national holiday. quote:“I personally think that it is a relatively cheap price to pay as a country with war on its own continent,” she said. social democracy 
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, it is also let’s be honest white American males in their 30s/early 40s who often work in IT are a very specific slice of the pie and I am not surprised the forums are alienating to everyone else who doesn’t give a poo poo about some inside joke from 15 years ago or the latest scoop about a war happening on the other side of the world. It is a very very specific perspective. it's really hard to find any discussion on international politics without it being massively slanted that towards white American males in their 30s/early 40s who often work in IT. cspam is one of the least biased in that way that i've found.
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Dec 29, 2022 04:33
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, it is also let’s be honest white American males in their 30s/early 40s who often work in IT pfft missed me
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Zoomers: They’re fine. Millenials: Tremendously uncool. Gen-X: Just boomers who will keep voting even longer.
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Dec 29, 2022 04:37
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crepeface posted:it's really hard to find any discussion on international politics without it being massively slanted that towards white American males in their 30s/early 40s who often work in IT. Yeah, it is just a lot of the opinions around here are in reality fairly hum ironically enough. It was such a big deal that cspam was skeptical of Biden’s student loan proposal (“crazed far-leftist tankies”) when honestly most people I knew in real life felt the same way. In addition, I would say most people out there are very unhappy with the way things are going economically even if they are unable to frame their thoughts with das kapital or can put their finger on why things are so bad. It just is CSpam when you get down to it is more ordinary than people want to admit (with certain exceptions again), it is just on an abnormal forum.
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Dec 29, 2022 04:43
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cspam is fairly out there on international issues. i think you're just pointing to the fact that mainstream journalist lib opinions that you see everywhere are just aren't that popular.
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crepeface posted:cspam is fairly out there on international issues. Yeah the divide in CSPAM on international stuff which is mostly anti-american and domestic USA stuff half of which is Democrat voters is very pronounced.
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crepeface posted:cspam is fairly out there on international issues. I actually don’t think it is to be honest, even in the US views on China (or American foreign policy) are often a lot more mixed than people think. Cspam takes the humor element to more of an extreme but cspam opinions in general are not that extreme despite a certain couple threads. Most people don’t care about Russian or China and when pressed would prefer peaceful coexistence even if it takes the US backing off, there are much bigger concerns out there. Weka posted:Yeah the divide in CSPAM on international stuff which is mostly anti-american and domestic USA stuff half of which is Democrat voters is very pronounced. If you want to frame them as just “anti-American” but most Americans themselves honest don’t care or honestly wished it was different. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 04:58 on Dec 29, 2022 |
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Ardennes posted:I actually don’t think it is to be honest, even in the US views on China (or American foreign policy) are often a lot more mixed than people think. Cspam takes the humor element to more of an extreme but cspam opinions in general are not that extreme despite a certain couple threads. Most people don’t care about Russian or China and when pressed would prefer peaceful coexistence even if it takes the US backing off, there are much bigger concerns out there. my experience in australia is that the journalist libbrain opinions on international issues are very much in the majority. australia is one of the dumbest places in the world for international geopolitics tho and it could also be my peer group (socially progressive white people in IT in their 30s/40s) dunno about america, but every reddit/twitter thread has a billion comments about how evil china/russia are.
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Dec 29, 2022 05:04
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Ardennes posted:I actually don’t think it is to be honest, even in the US views on China (or American foreign policy) are often a lot more mixed than people think. Cspam takes the humor element to more of an extreme but cspam opinions in general are not that extreme despite a certain couple threads. Most people don’t care about Russian or China and when pressed would prefer peaceful coexistence even if it takes the US backing off, there are much bigger concerns out there. Re: cspam views aligning or not with the general public, I think it depends on how you frame the questions (particularly what people think of foreign countries vs. what they most care about in their day to day lives) If you ask people in the west for an opinion on Russia or China 90% of them will say they are the new Nazis, totalitarian hellscapes, our greatest enemy etc. (though the US is an outlier on Russia specifically because of republican qanon contrarian stuff) If you ask them what the top 10 things they worry about or what the government should be trying to do for 90% fighting Russia or China won't make the list.
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crepeface posted:my experience in australia is that the journalist libbrain opinions on international issues are very much in the majority. I never been to Australia but it may also be a cohort thing, and again I don’t really trust the “extremely online” side of society as representative. Btw, I would say Reddit really varies in that the work based subreddits may as well be on a different site than the current event based ones. It is a highly selective circumstance. ModernMajorGeneral posted:Re: cspam views aligning or not with the general public, I think it depends on how you frame the questions (particularly what people think of foreign countries vs. what they most care about in their day to day lives) People I wouldn’t say about positive on Putin or even Xi, but perspective I usually get is “it isn’t our problem” and I don’t think most people actively think of our countries as “real enemies” again unless they are very online. If anything I would say more people are tuning out than ever and perhaps IT people care more (or can be always online) just due to fact their are glued to their keyboard.
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Dec 29, 2022 05:18
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Is this the thread where people are all pro-russia?
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Fivemarks posted:Is this the thread where people are all pro-russia? Ffs no Russia is just a construct and lines on a map, you can't be pro an abstraction We are all pro putin and want to hug and kiss him
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This thread's unifying position is that the world would be a better place if Austria-Hungry transitioned into a multi-national federation instead of breaking apart into separate nation states.
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