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Some Guy TT posted:like if some dude was running around japan calling sumo wrestlers fat pussies and beating them up that would probably make people mad too but we wouldnt say that he was being persecuted by japanese nationalists Feels like a bad example given sumo is iirc literally Japan's national sport or at least considered an extremely important cultural institution, and also generally acknowledged to be a sport with rules and limits as to what you can do within them. But then again, that's probably your point. Comes to mind, it's actually E Honda's whole deal in Street Fighter that he wants sumo to be considered a serious fighting style, but thing is most of his moveset is flat out illegal in sumo to the point where his style is barely recognisable- a few characters outright say it, even Rufus. (who mind you is specifically a massive martial arts nerd who went to train with masters and learn what moves are possible and what the movies made up. A little ironic given the game he's in, but hey.) Telluric Whistler posted:Chinese are ultra nationalist fascists if they don't consume Nike and McDonald's. This is literally the explanation my previous company came up with got why their products were failing in the Chinese markets that they had gone all in on. Kinda lol this is basically like weebs saying the only reason you don't like anime is because you're racist
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Dec 29, 2022 06:52
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Ghost Leviathan posted:learn what moves are possible and what the movies made up. A little ironic given the game he's in, but hey.) wtf does this mean in the context of street fighter lore. like the Vulcan nerve pinch
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Dec 29, 2022 07:10
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Movies said a ten thousand punch is possible but actually the upper limit is only a thousand
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Dec 29, 2022 07:13
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It's a fairly popular opinion among China watchers and assorted other anticommunists, in my observation, that the Chinese, specifically Han Chinese, are actually very nationalist and are racial supremacists, just for themselves
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Dec 29, 2022 07:25
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Some Guy TT posted:everybody keeps saying that but as far as i can tell the only people who are pushing back against him are people who actually do traditional chinese martial arts i dont really get how nationalism goes into this unless youre taking the position that traditional chinese martial arts are inherently nationalist which isnt something we generally say about martial arts in any other country That was the most I'd heard about it and chocked it up.to a weird thing about National pride. Living through freedom fries and post 9/11 poo poo kind instilled in me that nothing is too ridiculous for nationalism. I think this was the video https://youtu.be/gjbSCEhmjJA But in hindsight whatever sources he used I'm sure had to have been English language and therefore primed to give the worst possible readings
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Dec 29, 2022 07:37
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gradenko_2000 posted:It's a fairly popular opinion among China watchers and assorted other anticommunists, in my observation, that the Chinese, specifically Han Chinese, are actually very nationalist and are racial supremacists, just for themselves the view that I’ve gotten (as an idiot with no actual good source of information) is that the average Chinese person definitely believes CHINA NUMBER WAN but isn’t actually a Han supremacist and believes in multiculturalism. but also believes in crude racial stereotypes and is Overtly Racist in the American sense without supporting institutional racism
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Dec 29, 2022 08:05
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eSports Chaebol posted:the view that I’ve gotten (as an idiot with no actual good source of information) is that the average Chinese person definitely believes CHINA NUMBER WAN but isn’t actually a Han supremacist and believes in multiculturalism. but also believes in crude racial stereotypes and is Overtly Racist in the American sense without supporting institutional racism I think the Simpsons / It's A Small World thing where racial harmony is all the stereotypes dancing in a circle is pretty accurate from my experience. It's a kind of naive view but wasn't that uncommon in the West until recently (and there's probably still a lot of folks who wish we could go back to that)
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Dec 29, 2022 08:47
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that seems like a nice version of multiculturalism as long as you remove the Overt Racism part
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Dec 29, 2022 16:02
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Dec 29, 2022 17:59
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DiscountDildos posted:Not sure if this is suspicious or funny or what How long til he decides the trouble is California is too socialist and he needs to move to Idaho/Texas ya think
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Dec 29, 2022 18:07
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haha gimpo
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Dec 29, 2022 18:14
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The wild ping pong whiplash back and forth between "covid is a deadly airborne disease with major public health consequences" and "covid is over and just the flu" in every country including china based solely on racism rather any sort of understanding of the disease is really a sight to behold.
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Dec 29, 2022 18:25
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Will China reimplement COVID Zero as the opening up plan seems to have been a complete diaster?
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Dec 29, 2022 20:01
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KomradeX posted:Will China reimplement COVID Zero as the opening up plan seems to have been a complete diaster? Unlikely
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Dec 29, 2022 20:19
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KomradeX posted:Will China reimplement COVID Zero as the opening up plan seems to have been a complete diaster? No. You don't go back after you let the genie out of the bottle. It's not possible.
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Dec 29, 2022 20:23
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KomradeX posted:Will China reimplement COVID Zero as the opening up plan seems to have been a complete diaster? definitely not but I think they'll bring some of the restrictions/protocols back to find a more sustainable level
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Dec 29, 2022 20:26
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I'm not sure China's opening up has been a disaster. It certainly has led to a great deal of sickness and death. But they have a highly vaccinated population. It's probably better than what was experienced in the US and Europe. Although there's no way to know for sure since nobody seems to be keeping accurate statistics in China anymore
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Dec 29, 2022 20:31
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Red and Black posted:I'm not sure China's opening up has been a disaster. It certainly has led to a great deal of sickness and death. tbf that seems disastrous for the sick and the dead
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Dec 29, 2022 20:32
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Sure, but what was the alternative? There was obviously tremendous social discontent at continuing the lock down. And lockdowns depend on the compliance of the population anyways. Maybe if everyone else in the world had acted with the same urgency as China from the start we could have stamped out COVID early and prevented all this. But that's not what happened and it's not the world we live in. Something had to give
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Dec 29, 2022 20:35
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Red and Black posted:I'm not sure China's opening up has been a disaster. It certainly has led to a great deal of sickness and death. quote:It certainly has led to a great deal of sickness and death. quote:It certainly has led to a great deal of sickness and death.
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Dec 29, 2022 20:36
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There was no pathway that didn't end with a great deal of sickness and death
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Dec 29, 2022 20:41
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Red and Black posted:There was no pathway that didn't end with a great deal of sickness and death There was a pathway to avoid a great deal of sickness and death but they threw it all away
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Dec 29, 2022 20:43
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Oh a billion people got sick? Let me know when a billion dollars get sick
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Dec 29, 2022 20:43
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Red and Black posted:Maybe if everyone else in the world had acted with the same urgency as China from the start we could have stamped out COVID early and prevented all this. Seems unlikely without richer countries subsidizing loss of income programs in poorer ones, which, lol, lmao.
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Dec 29, 2022 20:47
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NeonPunk posted:There was a pathway to avoid a great deal of sickness and death but they threw it all away There wasn't. Zero COVID was dead once there were mass protests against it all across China. The policy can't survive without the cooperation of the general public. And any attempt to force the issue would only have delayed the inevitable, at best. Weka posted:Seems unlikely without richer countries subsidizing loss of income programs in poorer ones, which, lol, lmao. Yeah. I would argue that the richer countries still would have come out ahead because we could have avoided all these waves of mutated covid strains, but we all know they'll never spend a dime on anyone else, even if its to their benefit. It would undermine the spirit of capitalism.
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Dec 29, 2022 20:49
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Can you make an argument that the larger world population is, the faster the virus evolve into more contagious, less deadly variants?
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Dec 29, 2022 20:55
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There are no evolutionary pressures to make the virus less deadly, that's a myth.
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Dec 29, 2022 20:56
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KomradeX posted:Will China reimplement COVID Zero as the opening up plan seems to have been a complete diaster? Nah, half the country's infected and some cities are already mostly recovered, e.g. Beijing which was hit first. https://twitter.com/CGMeifangZhang/status/1608210079630692352 https://twitter.com/shen_shiwei/status/1608391041086021635
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Dec 29, 2022 21:04
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KomradeX posted:Will China reimplement COVID Zero as the opening up plan seems to have been a complete diaster? There is historical precedent that China is capable of reversing course on even the largest of its missteps.
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Dec 29, 2022 21:45
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yes but that toothpaste is now out of the tube. The toothpaste being a population not largely exposed to covid.
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Dec 29, 2022 21:49
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"post-pandemic" lol. they're about to follow the same strategy as the cdc. fortunately, their next wave will be "mild".
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Dec 29, 2022 22:37
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Red and Black posted:There wasn't. Zero COVID was dead once there were mass protests against it all across China. The policy can't survive without the cooperation of the general public. And any attempt to force the issue would only have delayed the inevitable, at best. "mass protests" crepeface posted:china was already in the process of loosening restrictions for a month or so, it wasn't started by the protests: https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-11-13/Graphics-China-s-20-new-measures-for-optimizing-COVID-19-response-1eVuot6zFzW/index.html
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Dec 30, 2022 00:21
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You know I haven't following the "Open Xi" status closely, but I haven't seen any social media posting of Chinese ER full of patients on oxygen machines, and patients laying on the floor. We got a lot of those in Spring '20 in China (and then in Iran, Italy, New York, etc) Maybe Omnicron is different.
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Dec 30, 2022 00:52
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https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1608308462035046400 calm soothing music to build infrastructure to
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Dec 30, 2022 00:52
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Red and Black posted:There wasn't. lol
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Dec 30, 2022 00:54
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Red and Black posted:Sure, but what was the alternative? There was obviously tremendous social discontent at continuing the lock down. And lockdowns depend on the compliance of the population anyways. Maybe if everyone else in the world had acted with the same urgency as China from the start we could have stamped out COVID early and prevented all this. But that's not what happened and it's not the world we live in. Something had to give Mostly longer entry quarantines (instead of shortening them) and more responsibility by Beijing central for the quarantine facilities. There's also a lot of defense in depth stuff they could have done, but all of that would have had to be implemented at least once they saw the gently caress up in Shanghai. You don't need a lot of "mass" in the mass non compliance for everything to fall apart.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:20
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Tai Po Kau, Hong Kong  
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Dec 30, 2022 05:40
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This is a level of irony I'm just lost at
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Dec 30, 2022 06:59
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stephenthinkpad posted:You know I haven't following the "Open Xi" status closely, but I haven't seen any social media posting of Chinese ER full of patients on oxygen machines, and patients laying on the floor. We got a lot of those in Spring '20 in China (and then in Iran, Italy, New York, etc) Also, very well, it looks like Chinese vaccinations may have actually been fine and that after people have had 3 shots that symptoms are going to generally be a lot more mild than earlier in the pandemic. It is almost like the Western press constantly poo poo on any non-Western vaccine without evidence “for some reason.” There will likely be another wave…that will be very likely be more milder as well. Humans can actually acquire relative immunity to COVID. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 07:13 on Dec 30, 2022 |
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Dec 30, 2022 07:10
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Don't tell the COVID thread losers that
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