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Payndz posted:The showrunners of both Lower Decks and Prodigy are probably tossing the problem of the synth rebellion back and forth like a live grenade, not wanting to be the one holding it when it explodes.  Latchkum!
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Betting not Prodigy because they will probably be tackling the anti-augment bigotry and even if they add a nice synth pal, that's a loooong gap for progress on asynth rights and also just being anachronistic hatred and backwards period.
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Dec 30, 2022 05:14
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Remember when Prodigy started and everyone was complaining that this was obviously originally a Star Wars show that had been just reskinned into Star Trek at some point?
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Dec 30, 2022 05:15
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MikeJF posted:Remember when Prodigy started and everyone was complaining that this was obviously originally a Star Wars show that had been just reskinned into Star Trek at some point? In fairness it took half a season for them to really lean into the Trek stuff.
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Dec 30, 2022 05:19
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Delsaber posted:Yeah, it's not really Lower Decks or Prodigy's job to pay a ton of lip service to those events at all, they are different shows off doing their own things. At most they might start showing the uniform transitions eventually, and Jellico kinda made vague allusions to relations with the Romulans already this season, but I wouldn't expect anyone to Kramer into a room and start yelling about Mars or the synth ban or whatever just because the dates will eventually line up Yeah the Cerritos doesn't need to get involved in any of that. They don't have any synths onboard. And it is already stuffed to the gills with people sleeping in hallways so it's not a good fit for an evacuation vessel. It makes sense that it would just keep doing the necessary maintenance tasks it is designed for, because the need for those doesn't go away just because there's other stuff going on too. The show runners don't want to engage with the mars and romulus poo poo they don't have to. It can just be news of stuff happening in a different sector.
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Dec 30, 2022 05:20
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If only they had the balls to retcon Picard out of existence.
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Dec 30, 2022 05:24
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I still think it's absolutely funny as all hell that the whole reason Solum is jacked up is presumably because SOMEONE hosed up the second contact mission / one never happened.
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Dec 30, 2022 05:26
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External Organs posted:I still think it's absolutely funny as all hell that the whole reason Solum is jacked up is presumably because SOMEONE hosed up the second contact mission / one never happened. 
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Dec 30, 2022 05:33
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nine-gear crow posted:That was a really good finale. Kinda wrapped the cliffhanger up a little fast but didn't shy away from making sure you know that it still wrecked Starfleet's poo poo. Look at this most recent episode. The prospect of continuing to anger Janeway made a Vulcan decide that the logical course of action would be to STFU about the kids and hope the scary admiral woman forgot he existed.
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Dec 30, 2022 05:37
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Everyone posted:Look at this most recent episode. The prospect of continuing to anger Janeway made a Vulcan decide that the logical course of action would be to STFU about the kids and hope the scary admiral woman forgot he existed. The charges were nonsense. Stealing a starfleet vessel? It was a 50 year old derelict they salvaged from a rock.
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Dec 30, 2022 05:41
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MikeJF posted:Remember when Prodigy started and everyone was complaining that this was obviously originally a Star Wars show that had been just reskinned into Star Trek at some point? The finale gets high marks. A kids' show committing that hard is a welcome surprise, and now Rok-Tahk can turn Murf back into his proper form. Gotta admit that I was surprised at the callback they threw in: 
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Facebook Aunt posted:The charges were nonsense. Stealing a starfleet vessel? It was a 50 year old derelict they salvaged from a rock. Everyone knows that if you save the Federation, all charges should be dropped. Even if they weren't bullshit. (They were still bullshit)
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Dec 30, 2022 05:45
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Also, I love that there are a bunch of 00s Trek video game nerds on Prodigy's production staff because the Starfleet tribunal that tries to prosecute the kids are wearing nearly identical uniforms as Mr. Stemmons, Starfleet Academy's chief functionary from Elite Force II: 
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Facebook Aunt posted:The charges were nonsense. Stealing a starfleet vessel? It was a 50 year old derelict they salvaged from a rock. "It's a legitimate salvage!!"
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Dec 30, 2022 05:48
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Maybe starfleet started putting sapient holograms on every ship and declaring them legal persons to protect against salvagers. As long as the hologram is on board the ship is never abandoned. And the hologram can't leave.
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Dec 30, 2022 05:52
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Facebook Aunt posted:Maybe starfleet started putting sapient holograms on every ship and declaring them legal persons to protect against salvagers. As long as the hologram is on board the ship is never abandoned. And the hologram can't leave. I see you've read my pilot pitch for Star Trek: Legal Department
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External Organs posted:I see you've read my pilot pitch for Star Trek: Legal Department That's just JAG with phasers.
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External Organs posted:I see you've read my pilot pitch for Star Trek: Legal Department May I propose Star Trek: Klingon Lawyer Facebook Aunt posted:The charges were nonsense. Stealing a starfleet vessel? It was a 50 year old derelict they salvaged from a rock. I feel like somebody just really wanted to do the courtroom scene from Voyage Home.
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Dec 30, 2022 05:58
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^^^^^ you may! That's a good episode. I demand a YouTube edit of TNG where Troi is the ship's legal counselor.
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Dec 30, 2022 06:00
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External Organs posted:I demand a YouTube edit of TNG where Troi is the ship's legal counselor. "Will, I still need your briefs." "...I thought I left them at your place." "For Data's case."
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Kesper North posted:May I propose Star Trek: Klingon Lawyer Starring Michael Dorn as Colonel Worf
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Picard leans over to Troi: "are you getting anything, counselor?" "Nothing they've said indicates malicious intent, at least by the guidelines of the khittomer accords. However, warp factor castle doctrine is in effect in this sector" "...very good. Mr Worf, fire!"
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Dec 30, 2022 06:05
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a very special episode about lawfare, guest starring Popehat as a Ferengi who's doing a RICO
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Objection, empathy is in violation of my fourth and fifth space-amendment rights!
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Dec 30, 2022 06:27
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MikeJF posted:Objection, empathy is in violation of my fourth and fifth space-amendment rights! That's fine, object all you like. In the meanwhile, the Emergency Search And Seizure Hologram has already found the evidence we need on your PADD and has transferred it to our archives, and because it's non-organic, it is exempt from the Space Constitution. ...One second, I'm being informed that the Emergency Search And Seizure Hologram has gone rogue, hijacked the Enterprise and is preparing to ram it into Starfleet Headquarters at Warp 9. Oops.
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nine-gear crow posted:That's fine, object all you like. In the meanwhile, the Emergency Search And Seizure Hologram has already found the evidence we need on your PADD and has transferred it to our archives, and because it's non-organic, it is exempt from the Space Constitution. Every single case just gets suspended pending the Holographic rights case. I really wish they'd just declare sentient holograms sentient, their treatment in Trek has been uncomfortable for decades and they don't seem to be going anywhere with it, just treating them as disposable unless some people get attached. They can even say the reason that the EMH in Discovery is weird and less human seeming is because it's artificially restricted to avoid sentience for ethical reasons. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Dec 30, 2022 |
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nine-gear crow posted:That's just JAG with phasers. JAG with phasers might add a zero to Star Trek's audience figures. That show was hugely popular. JAG with anything is a great format for a TV show, in any given episode your characters can investigate, prosecute, defend, or even sit as a judge. Or undertake a secret mission into the
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Apparently they'd originally planned them getting accepted to the Academy but one of the reasons they didn't get in was because it might collide with the eternally in-planning academy show. Also they decided to change it to basically apprenticing under Janeway anyway because becoming a classroom show would change it too much.
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mllaneza posted:JAG with phasers might add a zero to Star Trek's audience figures. That show was hugely popular. JAG with anything is a great format for a TV show, in any given episode your characters can investigate, prosecute, defend, or even sit as a judge. Or undertake a secret mission into the This is why I think the Section 31 show, if it ever materializes given Michelle Yeoh's career trajectory of just being in literally everything, everywhere, all at once these days, is probably just going to be NCIS with phasers.
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I really hope S31 is completely dead, if only because Yeoh deserves so much better.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I really hope S31 is completely dead, if only because Yeoh deserves so much better. Deserves better? Yes. Willing to work complete dogshit for a paycheck though? Also a yes. See: Blood Origin comma colon comma Witcher comma The.
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Sure, but her need to work a pure paycheck job is way lower now than it was when S31 was announced nearly four years ago.
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It'd be neat if they got Sternbach to give notes on the Voyager-A. I know he always wished he could do the nacelle hinges better, there's a lot of options now that they're not limited by physical models and sets. Maybe they won't cut a bunch of notches into the side ruining the smooth hull so all the named characters have quarters with vertical windows for easier set construction.
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MikeJF posted:It'd be neat if they got Sternbach to give notes on the Voyager-A. I know he always wished he could do the nacelle hinges better, there's a lot of options now that they're not limited by physical models and sets. I've had this design in my head for Voyager-A for like 15 years now, so it's gonna have to work real hard to knock it out of the park: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvFQ8hmvYFo Seriously, CBS should have hired DJ Curtis and Michael Wiley to do all their post-Nemesis Starfleet designs.
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Or they could just do the pointy concept Voyager. The nacelles are pretty close to the Sagan/Titan nacelles, actually, looking at it.
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MikeJF posted:Remember when Prodigy started and everyone was complaining that this was obviously originally a Star Wars show that had been just reskinned into Star Trek at some point? I mean the first few episodes were exactly like that.
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Yeah but people weren't just saying it was a bit Star Wars like, lots of people were actually insisting it was clearly a show that had been developed and then reskinned into Star Trek at the last minute.
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MikeJF posted:Or they could just do the pointy concept Voyager. God, please no. The Picard-era trend of weird jagged nacelles is the dumbest thing. I’m baffled by how hideous and incongruous to the rest of the design the Titan’s nacelles are, especially given how great the rest of Bill Krause’s work is. Seriously, go peruse his instagram. His whole fleet of post-TOS/PRE-TMP designs are just gorgeous.
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MikeJF posted:Yeah but people weren't just saying it was a bit Star Wars like, lots of people were actually insisting it was clearly a show that had been developed and then reskinned into Star Trek at the last minute. I still believe that tho??? I'm not convinced it was literally Star Wars but I am pretty sure it wasn't supposed to be a Star Trek show, and was pretty far into development before someone at a network somewhere was like "Hey, you wanna make this a Star Trek show?", and then they turned it into a Star Trek show. Believing that and thinking that Prodigy is a good series are not mutually exclusive.
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My Second Re-Reg posted:Believing that and thinking that Prodigy is a good series are not mutually exclusive. No, but they would have had to extensively rewrite a whole bunch of scripts to turn it into Star Trek. I'm going with the theory that it was Star Trek all along, and only looked like Star Wars so kids who only knew Star Wars could start in a familiar environment and then learn about the Federation along with the characters.
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