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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

webcams for christ posted:

of course the DDR didn't execute every single former Nazi party member, but I don't know what to tell you if you think that means denazification in the DDR was identical to the BRD

Cerebral Bore posted:

west germany literally had a former nazi as chancellor for a couple of years

Obviously it wasn't to the same degree in both Germanies, but wasn't the Stasi notoriously full of ex-Gestapo types? They also acted like their NATO counterparts by using neo-Nazis as assets to undermine the other side.

Unholy Alliance: The Connection between the East German Stasi and the Right-Wing Terrorist Odfried Hepp

I don't think it was an East German thing so much as a Stasi thing.

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lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

were those chimps infected with ebola or something, why did they have to murder them

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

lobster shirt posted:

were those chimps infected with ebola or something, why did they have to murder them

they broke out of their enclosure

zoo official referred to this as a “shoot to kill situation”

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Atrocious Joe posted:

Solidarity with the chimps

furuvik chimpanzee war

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
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lobster shirt posted:

were those chimps infected with ebola or something, why did they have to murder them
chimps are strong, smart, aggressive, hunt other primates in the wild, and aren't as risk averse (or lazy) as some other potentially dangerous animals like lions and tigers. which, based on quotes from other zoos, makes them the literal highest priority target in the case of multiple animal escapes.

basically, chimps are superpredators but real

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
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Gone Gordy

But yeah chimps can and will brutally gently caress people up on the slightest provocation and are extremely brutal and unpredictable, aiming to inflict crippling injury and singling out vulnerable targets.

Ghost Leviathan has issued a correction as of 07:05 on Dec 16, 2022

Nitevision
Oct 5, 2004

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A Buttery Pastry posted:

chimps are strong, smart, aggressive, hunt other primates in the wild, and aren't as risk averse (or lazy) as some other potentially dangerous animals like lions and tigers. which, based on quotes from other zoos, makes them the literal highest priority target in the case of multiple animal escapes.

basically, chimps are superpredators but real

Don't care. If they got out then it's fair play. "Oh no there are chimps loose in Sweden" Who brought them there dumbass. Edit: Rhetorical dumbass not calling you a dumbass.

Eldoop
Jul 29, 2012

Cheeky? Us?
Why, I never!
Arm the chimps

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
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Nitevision posted:

Don't care. If they got out then it's fair play. "Oh no there are chimps loose in Sweden" Who brought them there dumbass. Edit: Rhetorical dumbass not calling you a dumbass.
Oh yeah, it's definitely an argument against keeping them in the first place. Or like, installing ampules with sedatives in all the chimps that can be remote triggered.

Really, they should make the zoo administrators criminally liable for every death, just like an engineer can be criminally liable for failing to ensure the structural soundness of their design. One dead chimp = one dead administrator.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

mawarannahr posted:

what a character. do you think is he naturally like this?

He's Austrian OP.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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A Buttery Pastry posted:

Oh yeah, it's definitely an argument against keeping them in the first place. Or like, installing ampules with sedatives in all the chimps that can be remote triggered.

Really, they should make the zoo administrators criminally liable for every death, just like an engineer can be criminally liable for failing to ensure the structural soundness of their design. One dead chimp = one dead administrator.

:hai:

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

abolish limited liability.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

"Det er vigtigere at være fri end at holde fri." / "It's more important to be free than to have time off." - Danish Minister of Defense on the abolition of a holiday to partially finance increased defense spending to the tune of 9 whole F-35s

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

*stalin quote goes here*

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



what a lovely bon mot :barf:

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Have you considered that instead of time to spend with loved ones we could have more flying death machines instead?

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Arbeit macht frei, as they say in this part of the world.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Maximo Roboto posted:

Obviously it wasn't to the same degree in both Germanies, but wasn't the Stasi notoriously full of ex-Gestapo types? They also acted like their NATO counterparts by using neo-Nazis as assets to undermine the other side.

Unholy Alliance: The Connection between the East German Stasi and the Right-Wing Terrorist Odfried Hepp

I don't think it was an East German thing so much as a Stasi thing.

gradenko_2000 posted:

from the first chapter/essay of "Becoming East German", that I've started reading after discovering and recommending it:




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tldr let's just put to rest the idea that the GDR wasn't a million times better than west germany in stamping out nazism and bringing nazis to justice (even phrasing it like this is way to kind to the west germans who actively embraced a bunch of criminal murderers to fight communism). "both the west and the east were the same in this" is just another lovely anticommunist lie that we have to live with because the communists lost the cold war.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
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Yeah like, the Soviets specifically put their Nazi scientists in basically prison cities in the middle of nowhere where they could be monitored and couldn't have any influence besides their scientific work, iirc.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
and Alabama wasn't a prison?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Tankbuster posted:

and Alabama wasn't a prison?

sure i guess officially, but i would classify america as a bunch of concentration camps

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

sigh https://twitter.com/NimaTavRood/status/1603900017600782337

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

It's not even the first time a TV2 presenter got in trouble for equating black people with simians.

"Is it a monkey?" She tries to save it by saying the monitor is very far away and her eyesight poor. IIRC, she ended up doing local news for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0CcswBjn7Y&t=83s

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webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

lmao that's the good poo poo

https://twitter.com/lines_down/status/1603845629452877824

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

mila kunis posted:

tldr let's just put to rest the idea that the GDR wasn't a million times better than west germany in stamping out nazism and bringing nazis to justice (even phrasing it like this is way to kind to the west germans who actively embraced a bunch of criminal murderers to fight communism). "both the west and the east were the same in this" is just another lovely anticommunist lie that we have to live with because the communists lost the cold war.

That's fair but I'm asking specifically about the Stasi. Maybe their reputation for having ex-Nazi security personnel is overblown, is what I'm wondering about.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

from a fb post about the irish potato famine

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

i say swears online posted:

from a fb post about the irish potato famine



:haibrow:

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Danish refugee centers for Ukrainians are urging their neighbours to limit or abstain entirely from setting off fireworks on New Year's Eve. Meanwhile, the unworthy refugees from Syria and Iraq can enjoy being housed literally inside military training grounds all year.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

SplitSoul posted:

Danish refugee centers for Ukrainians are urging their neighbours to limit or abstain entirely from setting off fireworks on New Year's Eve. Meanwhile, the unworthy refugees from Syria and Iraq can enjoy being housed literally inside military training grounds all year.

:crying plague-mink:

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

SplitSoul posted:

Danish refugee centers for Ukrainians are urging their neighbours to limit or abstain entirely from setting off fireworks on New Year's Eve. Meanwhile, the unworthy refugees from Syria and Iraq can enjoy being housed literally inside military training grounds all year.

Are they calling Ukranians dogs?

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Gripweed posted:

Are they calling Ukranians dogs?

Nah, but it's understandable that PTSD-stricken people wouldn't be fond of loud explosions. However, the Queen Mother of Danish Nationalism, Pia Kjærsgaard, now wants to ban consumer fireworks to shield pets, which she holds in higher regard than non-white humans.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

SplitSoul posted:

Danish refugee centers for Ukrainians are urging their neighbours to limit or abstain entirely from setting off fireworks on New Year's Eve. Meanwhile, the unworthy refugees from Syria and Iraq can enjoy being housed literally inside military training grounds all year.

https://i.imgur.com/BztOrUg.mp4

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000


Here's an example of the lovely ambience unwanted refugees get to enjoy all day, feels like home.

https://twitter.com/24syv/status/1110851949849726976

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
denmark need to be sanctioned, ostracized and thrown out of uefa and every other sporting confederation

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

SplitSoul posted:

Here's an example of the lovely ambience unwanted refugees get to enjoy all day, feels like home.

https://twitter.com/24syv/status/1110851949849726976

we need to be denazified

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Zodium posted:

we need to be denazified

pls dont advocate genocide

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be


poor bornholm, get left behind and gets attached to skåne

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Megamissen posted:

poor bornholm, get left behind and gets attached to skåne

Yes, and you call Bornholmers "Surplus Swedes", despite the fact that Skåne is obviously Denmark.

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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

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SplitSoul posted:

Yes, and you call Bornholmers "Surplus Swedes", despite the fact that Skåne is obviously Denmark.
It hurts them that they failed to completely genocide the East Danish population.

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