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One of those hoarder shows that they manage to get the door open and it is just stacks of EV chargers with a trapped Three Olives underneath a pile of them yelling for help.
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Three Olives posted:
Oh, cool. I haven't spotted one yet (DFW Mid-cities.)
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knox_harrington posted:Alternatively, and I know this sounds crazy, we could power buses directly from the existing electrical grid? Maybe using wires suspended over the streets, I dunno I'm just the ideas guy Pourquoi pas les deux? 
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What’s the 0-60 on that baby?
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It's Switzerland so it's 0-100.
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Nitrox posted:Is there a way to flag those non working chargers on Waze or Google maps? For those who didn't know, Google navigation lets you pick an electric car as your primary vehicle, and will try to adapt. I use plugshare to check the status of chargers, and I flagged the inop chargers as appropriate. The EA station had a 10 on Plugshare, but if I had dug in the comments I would have found the actual condition before arriving.
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Darchangel posted:Oh, cool. I haven't spotted one yet (DFW Mid-cities.) I've only seen them in Uptown, I know there is an Amazon Warehouse near Love Field so I suspect they have some based there for Uptown. I haven't spotted any in Oak Cliff, but I suspect they will pop-up in North Oak Cliff soon given the close proximity to a couple of Amazon warehouses, population density and income. Also Uptown/Oak Cliff will be really receptive to Amazon EVs marketing wise.
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The IRS has published some info on the coming tax credit. https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/manufacturers-and-models-for-new-qualified-clean-vehicles-purchased-in-2023-or-after There should be a big  on the note that "Vehicle make/models that appear in the list below do not automatically qualify."Also the Model Y only qualifies for the 80k MSRP cap if it's the 7 seater, so expect either a price adjustment (base model starts above the 55k non-suv limit) or a bunch of angry tweets I guess.
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As the owner of a 2021 Model Y LR with the extra row, the real utility of it is extremely limited. If someone's in the third row, that means shifting up the middle row to minimum legroom. If I were ordering it again, I would skip the third row. I still love the car, despite the controversial parentage. I've done ~6k miles of road-tripping up and down the east coast with it, and never had an issue with any of the superchargers. It's super-comfortable, and I don't have any mechanical issues or noticeable panel gaps.
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Mrs big dick was not happy with this leg of our road trip
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Did you make it to a charger?
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Yeah that was at the charger she just didn't like how close it was. The first part of the leg was along the Oregon coast and up and down hills and lots of rain and HVAC use but the last part was like 50 miles on I-5 and I knew if it was really dire I could just do 5 or 10 under the speed limit and would be guaranteed to make it but she hasn't been on as many EV roadtrips as I have so she doesn't really trust how it works as much as I do. Really it was perfect. 3 charges to go from Reno to Lincoln City, 41 minutes of charging. My Mach could also make it in 3 charges but took a whopping 112 minutes of charging, and you also have to take a less optimal route which results in a total difference of 2 hours and 3 minutes. Really makes a difference.
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So, the IRS has classified the Mach-E as a car instead of an SUV so limited it to $55k MSRP for the tax credit, same with the Model Y, unless the Model Y has the absolutely useless third row seats, then it becomes an SUV? But the ID.4 is a car, unless it is AWD, and then it becomes an SUV? WTF?
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Oh boy can’t wait for a dealership to explain this to a customer.
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I will simply: buy a chevvy
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I saw one of the Amazon Rivian vans in the neighborhood, that was tight. I live pretty near one a mega-distributor point, though, so it's possible they're spreading them out (or likely prioritizing places where they get some kind of incentive to do it on a state-wide basis). knox_harrington posted:Alternatively, and I know this sounds crazy, we could power buses directly from the existing electrical grid? Maybe using wires suspended over the streets, I dunno I'm just the ideas guy It would be good to do this but you play the ball where it lies.
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Three Olives posted:So, the IRS has classified the Mach-E as a car instead of an SUV so limited it to $55k MSRP for the tax credit, same with the Model Y, unless the Model Y has the absolutely useless third row seats, then it becomes an SUV? But the ID.4 is a car, unless it is AWD, and then it becomes an SUV? WTF? A PT cruiser is legally a light truck.
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I’m pretty sure my Bolt was technically a wagon on the title?
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Nessus posted:I think part of the issue here is that this requires infrastructure spending and construction which people hate, while using EV buses requires nothing new other than chargers at the bus depot, which the city council doesn't care about, and which Joe Biden may pay for. Also the mesh of wires over the street required to support overhead line powered electric buses are ugly, expensive, noisy, require costly maintenance, pose additional safety/reliability risks around other traffic (greater potential for something to strike the lines such as oversized loads or some accident with a backhoe, etc), and obviously limit the bus to areas/directions covered by the grid. Battery electric buses are just way more flexible.
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Indiana_Krom posted:Also the mesh of wires over the street required to support overhead line powered electric buses are ugly, expensive, noisy, require costly maintenance, pose additional safety/reliability risks around other traffic (greater potential for something to strike the lines such as oversized loads or some accident with a backhoe, etc), and obviously limit the bus to areas/directions covered by the grid. Battery electric buses are just way more flexible. I live in SF and none of these are any real problems.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:I live in SF and none of these are any real problems. In Boston (well, Cambridge) legacy trolley bus infrastructure made it somewhat difficult to put in new bike lanes. Battery operated busses are a much better solution than trolleybusses, which combine all the disadvantages of both busses and teams.
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mobby_6kl posted:Speaking of rails, has anyone tried an EV bus... but on rails yet? Seems like that might work pretty well and be mostly self-driving. Your basically describing this, but with the added hassles of actual rails. https://www.ladbible.com/news/interesting-china-has-self-driving-train-that-doesnt-use-tracks-20210519
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:In Boston (well, Cambridge) legacy trolley bus infrastructure made it somewhat difficult to put in new bike lanes. Counterpoint: trolley busses don't use massive lithium-ion batteries. The ones here have backup ICE that are used in case the lines are hosed or the route has to be temporary changed.
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Don’t worry EV buses will fall victim to the same bullshit as ICE buses now: 1. Underfund public transport so there is like 1 bus every hour and you can’t rely on it being on time 2. People don’t use them because of 1 3. Politicians say “see no one likes public transport”
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Indiana_Krom posted:Also the mesh of wires over the street required to support overhead line powered electric buses are ugly, expensive, noisy, require costly maintenance, pose additional safety/reliability risks around other traffic (greater potential for something to strike the lines such as oversized loads or some accident with a backhoe, etc), and obviously limit the bus to areas/directions covered by the grid. Battery electric buses are just way more flexible. I lived in Geneva 20 years ago and their electric busses could detach from the grid and reattach later, mid-driving, to serve streets that didn't have overhead wires. This seems like it'd be way more flexible than having to charge at a depot
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QuarkJets posted:I lived in Geneva 20 years ago and their electric busses could detach from the grid and reattach later, mid-driving, to serve streets that didn't have overhead wires. This seems like it'd be way more flexible than having to charge at a depot It is, those complaints are nonsense.
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Russian Bear posted:Don’t worry EV buses will fall victim to the same bullshit as ICE buses now: That’s what happened to the new light rail line in Denver/Aurora lol. Just nonstop “nobody’s using it so we’re cutting the stops and making it more inconvenient.”
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Counterpoint: trolley busses don't use massive lithium-ion batteries. The ones here have backup ICE that are used in case the lines are hosed or the route has to be temporary changed.  However you could well have smaller battery/supercapacitors/whatever in these situations.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Counterpoint: trolley busses don't use massive lithium-ion batteries. The ones here have backup ICE that are used in case the lines are hosed or the route has to be temporary changed. correct, they can use other energy storage mediums like a giant flywheel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrobus
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Gyrobus sounds like a steampunk version of public transportation
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Failson posted:I want a Genesis GV60 so I can ponder my I unironically love this weird little orb. It would be motivation to keep the center console clean too so it wouldn’t get jammed on a stack of napkins spilling out of the cupholder. Also lol thread title
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Failson posted:I want a Genesis GV60 so I can ponder my If your car doesnt come with an Orb of Power then its a lame car imo
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Kinda silly to have an orb and then a knob above it. Just imagine the potential of a dual orb system.
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Vegetable posted:Kinda silly to have an orb and then a knob above it. Just imagine the potential of a dual orb system. Glad to see we're finally moving on from phallic design!
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Vegetable posted:Kinda silly to have an orb and then a knob above it. Just imagine the potential of a dual orb system. one knob, with two orbs below it
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Trabisnikof posted:correct, they can use other energy storage mediums like a giant flywheel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrobus Failson posted:I want a Genesis GV60 so I can ponder my Why isn’t the orb a flywheel? This seems like an obvious improvement. Patent pending!
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Went to a chevy dealer this morning to buy a Bolt EUV now they the full tax credit is applicable. I arrived before the dealer opened and was the 5th person in line. The guy who got there first had been waiting for 2 hours. I ended up putting money down on one that's en route to the dealer and should have it by the end of the week. Still a wild car buying experience.
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OctaMurk posted:If your car doesnt come with an Orb of Power then its a lame car imo Are there any particular thread recommendations for after-market orbs?
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Has there been any further info on the Ioniq 6 availability timeline? I was pretty close to a Model 3 or used Model S but given recent events am thinking of backing off.
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