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SuperMechagodzilla posted:A simple rewrite: we open with a flashback to the events of Avatar 1, from a different perspective. Quarritch is preparing for his final battle against Jake Sully. He lays out the plan, prepares his gear, and finally uploads a backup copy of his memories. Smash-cut to 15 Years Later. Now we can follow Quarritch 2 as he learns what the gently caress he's missed: the status of the colonial project, what Jake's activities have been, etc. tbqh, i think i would've preferred something closer to this. the first fifteen minutes or so of this film are weird.
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It is kind of a weird flaw of the film that when Jakesama Bin Sully finds out he's being hunted by the Americans, instead of further fortifying his mountain fortress and using it to bait his enemies into ambushes and putting more patrols on key Na'vi assets such as the Ikran roosts, he panics and flees over the border to But whatever who cares, sometimes these things can be brushed over.
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Horizon Burning posted:tbqh, i think i would've preferred something closer to this. the first fifteen minutes or so of this film are weird.
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Horizon Burning posted:tbqh, i think i would've preferred something closer to this. the first fifteen minutes or so of this film are weird. with the 9 hour cut of a3 i hope we just get an entire remake of blade runner fc as a subplot for q2
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Elden Lord Godfrey posted:It is kind of a weird flaw of the film that when Jakesama Bin Sully finds out he's being hunted by the Americans, instead of further fortifying his mountain fortress and using it to bait his enemies into ambushes and putting more patrols on key Na'vi assets such as the Ikran roosts, he panics and flees over the border to I mean seems fair given he's seen firsthand how they'll go literally scorched earth given the slightest excuse Also, 
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atrus50 posted:with the 9 hour cut of a3 i hope we just get an entire remake of blade runner fc as a subplot for q2 Ghost Leviathan posted:I mean seems fair given he's seen firsthand how they'll go literally scorched earth given the slightest excuse
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teagone posted:MY EYES!!! The other shots in your post are fine but lol at this one. Absolutely hideous, reads like a meme
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That shot was specifically composited for 3D, it looks pretty rad in that context. e: The display is itself stereo within the narrative of the film, so when the camera moves behind the display there is an inversion of the 3D that makes it clear that you're viewing the display from behind. Even the eyelines between the Navi Quaritch and recording Quaritch align with each other, as I recall. It's a shot that you couldn't get without stereoscopy and one that doesn't work without it. In 2D it looks like nonsense, to the point where he should have used an alt take. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jan 2, 2023 |
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Horizon Burning posted:tbqh, i think i would've preferred something closer to this. the first fifteen minutes or so of this film are weird.
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Halloween Jack posted:"Hi, I'm Jake! Life is fun on Pandora! I have four kids, one of whom I adopted from my dead commander's inert clone." "There's also this human kid that we treat like a wild animal"
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I know hippies get tough feet, but the kid is climbing mountains. Also, can't Navi jump like fleas? How is he keeping up?
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Lmfao at the buzzcut avatar.
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Halloween Jack posted:I know hippies get tough feet, but the kid is climbing mountains. Also, can't Navi jump like fleas? How is he keeping up? I’d agree but I prefer what we got to a typical human left behind kind of thing. He was competent, intelligent, cunning and not a drag at all.
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Fsmhunk posted:Lmfao at the buzzcut avatar. I know it’s so the audience has a quick way of recognizing all the avatars but it was pretty funny. *wakes up in alien body* WHERES MY POMADE?
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teagone posted:The thing is Quaritch 2 being speed run through Na'vi culture with the help of Spider in TWOW does function on its own; it helps prop up the father/son family dynamics that are introduced in the film. The problem here is that that’s not the narrative; the family dynamic thing is ‘just’ an aspect of the characterization of the antagonist, where there’s a tension between his affection for his nephew and his dedication to ‘the mission.’ Q2 tries to have it both ways, but it culminates in the cliche scene of him being forced to choose at knifepoint. The drama consequently depends on Q2’s dedication to ‘the mission’ being so strong that killing his own nephew is a distinct possibility. And that psychological investment is not established in the narrative - or, even, in the plot. [If Q2 let his nephew die at the end, what would that have accomplished? (Does anyone expect that the entire Sully family (and the water people, and the whale...)) would just surrender and let Q2 hold them at gunpoint on a sinking ship until... what? Backup arrives? No backup ever arrives in the film. So is Q2 just dumb and crazy?]
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You can just say son and not nephew smg
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Halloween Jack posted:"Hi, I'm Jake! Life is fun on Pandora! I have four kids, one of whom I adopted from my dead commander's inert clone." Ha this opening rules. Just moves right past that crazy fact drop. Lion kings a baby like all fathers do, and then family photo!
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Nuts and Gum posted:I know it’s so the audience has a quick way of recognizing all the avatars but it was pretty funny. Gatts posted:I’d agree but I prefer what we got to a typical human left behind kind of thing. He was competent, intelligent, cunning and not a drag at all. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jan 2, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/PeterSciretta/status/1609972778828189696 I've seen it in 3D tonight. I didn't notice HFR-transitions, but think I subtly felt some scenes looked better than others - might have been just imagination. It was in RealD 3D. The REAL Goobusters posted:You can just say son and not nephew smg Some 9-year-old in the audience: "Yes he is."  Halloween Jack posted:I know hippies get tough feet, but the kid is climbing mountains. Also, can't Navi jump like fleas? How is he keeping up? Nuts and Gum posted:*wakes up in alien body* WHERES MY POMADE? Vir fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jan 2, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1609973180881596416 It’s days away from passing Top Gun Maverick and becoming the best selling movie at the box office released in 2022 and is picking up momentum. How does he do it folks
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How much of this is the same people seeing it multiple times? Loads of people have said they're going back for more while it's still in cinemas.
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I've seen it three times because of different groups, and I didn't get to see it in 3D before tonight. But that's probably enough for me until Avatar 3 comes out - I'll see 1 and 2 again before seeing 3. I've seen the first Avatar two times in total so far. I'm not trying to set a record for most viewings.
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Just saw it, pretty cool. Not great imo but fun to see on the big screen and some good action. Call me crazy but I'm starting to think that this James Cameron guy likes the ocean...
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stev posted:How much of this is the same people seeing it multiple times? Loads of people have said they're going back for more while it's still in cinemas. I saw the first Avatar movie 4 times at the theater. I might see TWOW again this week, not sure yet though since COVID cases are spiking in my area; would be my 3rd time if I go. I brought my brother and dad to see it when I saw it the 2nd time, and I've convinced at least 5 others to go see it.
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I’ll probably see it again at least one more time. I’ll take a buddy most likely to see it.
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There’s only 10 people watching avatar clearly and half are in this thread. They just post and avatar over and over until one day it all just kind of ends.
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i'll probably go see it again. took our 10 yo the first time, probably will take roommate and/or partner this time
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Nuts and Gum posted:I know it’s so the audience has a quick way of recognizing all the avatars but it was pretty funny. All humans will just swap to avatar bodies in the future as they move to pandora, so best to get in on the ground level now and invest in giant sunglasses and sweaters. Also extra large bubble gum.
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US Marine Jake Sully is a master of joint combined combat operations, but doesn't know what a moonpool or welldeck is.
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I mean, no movie looks like this so I'll prolly see it again eventually too. Rare to see this level of craft in a theater.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:You can just say son and not nephew smg But it's not his son?
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Mordiceius posted:But it's not his son? Yeah well he calls him son in the movie even after saying he’s not his dad in the beginning. You can choose to interpret that how you will but Quarritch 2 has accepted that spider is his son. Like did you miss the whole a Son for a Son line? (Rhetorical question)
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she was actually saying "a sun for a sun." thought it was pretty obvious given the eclipse, smdh goons
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I watched this for the second time tonight. Not much to say other than it still slaps and I think Jermaine Clement’s character is wearing a future-band T-shirt.
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Kart Barfunkel posted:I watched this for the second time tonight. Not much to say other than it still slaps and I think Jermaine Clement’s character is wearing a future-band T-shirt. Want that shirt
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teagone posted:James Cameron is objectively a better artist/director/writer than Joss Whedon, yes. Bugblatter posted:Well, no one is going to contest that. *cough* I'm not contesting it because I prefer Whedon's films, I'm contesting it because I find the idea of "objectively good/bad" art very silly. At most you're describing some critics consensus. And, sure, most critics probably agree that Cameron is a better director than Whedon, but they first and foremost agree that neither is particularly interesting. See: The recent Sight and Sound poll that has zero James Cameron (or Whedon) movies in the top 100. That poll also raises the question: How did Jeanne Dielman become a better movie with age? If something is "objectively good" then surely it was that way from the start. Maybe we're supposed to accept the idea that it takes a certain number of people praising something in order to make it objectively good - but then you might as well just make box office returns the only way to judge goodness. In which case Jeanne Dielman is not a good film. Or maybe you mean something entirely different when you talk about directors being "objectively better". I'm certainly curious about it.
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Steen71 posted:*cough* I just meant no one in the current conversation. My point isn’t too far off from yours. Killing the discussion of arts nuance and disregarding someone’s critical interpretation because you think it’s objectively great and using box office earnings as your justification is just distasteful at the least. Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Jan 3, 2023 |
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Looke posted:Kiri’s voice was really off putting Weird loving decision to have Sigourney Weaver play and voice a 14-year old.
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