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Gambrinus posted:I've never watched a YouTube short in my life, but I keep getting recommended one about a pretty blonde lass that plays for West Ham (can't remember her name). I have no interest in West Ham and aren't signed into YouTube on the TV so no idea where they get that from. Perhaps it's a popular video so as you're not logged in it's just giving you that. Guavanaut posted:I get big divorced dads vibes, like men who are less about some wannabe Chad saying "you got to get swole and cocky and buy these supplements to get pussy" and more a pretty lady reassuring them "college educated women end 300% of relationships because feminism teaches them to hate the family", but I can see crossover with the more 'intellectual' incel and, far worse, with young men who have been told to listen to women when it comes to dating advice but don't yet have a working terrible advice filter (although it's probably a bit boring for them). That makes sense hoovering up those MRAs and the MGTOW people.
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YouTube's algo has always been weird I think. I stick to hobby stuff mainly and it's fine but the other day accidentally watched a sky news clip about the racist palace person and then the algo decides that it should recommend me a load of GBNews videos featuring Farage from Innsmouth.
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Jan 3, 2023 11:35
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I will never watch a YouTube short. I have that poo poo blocked.
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Jan 3, 2023 11:38
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I don't want to click that video but I would like to know why he thinks he's grounding his bed.
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Jan 3, 2023 11:46
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keep punching joe posted:I will never watch a YouTube short. I have that poo poo blocked. My friend, this Chrome extension converts them all to regular videos.
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Jan 3, 2023 11:47
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I was scathing of everyone in my 'anonymous' corporate survey bollocks, then I quit. I remember when the brass found out about tracing email addresses and the MS accounts of people via MS Forms, then suddenly we have all these "tell us what you really think" surveys made in MS Forms come out. Corporate culture can lick my balls.
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When i saw YouTube shorts come up on my screen I thought "OK ill give this a go, see what they got" and clicked the first one. It was a 20 second clip of a boat slowly going under a bridge without incident It remains, to this day, the only short I've watched
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josh04 posted:I don't want to click that video but I would like to know why he thinks he's grounding his bed. There is a whole bunch of weird ideas floating around about electricity, if I had to pick one I would guess it is the "I need to be grounded at all times or the electrical buildup will make me ill, our ancestors walked everywhere barefoot and this is why ancient people were so healthy, but I don't want to sleep on the ground so I am going to plug myself into the wall to fix it" Generally though you can find just about any belief about electricity and how it will harm you in mysterious ways, and also possibly how it is good and if you ionize your drinking water just right it will make you live forever. The general theme though is post-hoc justifications for why modernity bad and why we must return to monke except none of them are actual coherent critiques of reality and instead it's just the illuminati trying to keep you docile by stopping you rubbing your feet on nature.
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Jan 3, 2023 11:51
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I watched the video and he doesn't explain... maybe he thinks he'll be struck by lightning in his sleep? Also he isn't grounding his bed, he's decided to put a strip of conductive material underneath himself in bed.
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Jan 3, 2023 11:54
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The youtube shorts UI sucks and there's no reason for it
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Jan 3, 2023 11:56
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Its not even the video format and the likes etc in the video that I don't like. Its just the garbage content. I go to youtube to watch long format stuff. I have no interest in watching 10 seconds clips on it but with a lot of things google these days, you can't turn it off.
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Jan 3, 2023 11:56
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You can still walk around barefoot outside if you like. When I lived in the Arctic I knew a guy who did it even in the winter sometimes, you'd run into him in town and he'd stand there for a chat with his bare feet in the snow. Still had all his toes somehow. e: he carried a pair of slippers to wear indoors, he wasn't an animal.
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Jan 3, 2023 11:56
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There's an extremely important reason: tiktok is eating youtube's lunch and by jove they will be ready the moment the US bans tiktok for national security* reasons. * China man bad ** but also the app is apparently a data harvesting nightmare so this but unironically
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Jan 3, 2023 11:57
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Tesseraction posted:I watched the video and he doesn't explain... maybe he thinks he'll be struck by lightning in his sleep? Also he isn't grounding his bed, he's decided to put a strip of conductive material underneath himself in bed. Yes that is why I am going with the "I need to be personally, literally, grounded as much as possible" explanation.
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Jan 3, 2023 11:59
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I remember this dilemma last time I was in a Proper Job. We had this wretched 'engagement' survey to complete every few months and they always said you should answer with regard to your direct line management but many of us felt that this would give a misleading impression to the inhabitants of The Tower of Power. There didn't seem to be any way of indicating that while we may have been totally happy with your own line manager, we were enormously dissatisfied with the ToP bods. Exactly the same here, so I assume it's intentional and only serves to keep middle management in the crab bucket
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OwlFancier posted:Yes that is why I am going with the "I need to be personally, literally, grounded as much as possible" explanation. they told me to ground my axioms so I made sure I me atoms was grounded
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Jan 3, 2023 12:03
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Dabir posted:The youtube shorts UI sucks and there's no reason for it I think it keeps people on the doom scrolling. If you ever want to stop a YouTube shorts binge, just scroll up a few videos. Immediately kills the flow. Something like seeking controls would result in similar desynchronization, I think.
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Jan 3, 2023 12:11
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I loving hate how they remove the volume control on desktop. WHY?
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Tesseraction posted:There's an extremely important reason: tiktok is eating youtube's lunch and by jove they will be ready the moment the US bans tiktok for national security* reasons. Tiktok did a 4gb update last night on a friend's phone without asking, in the background, while they were out of the house and WiFi range. Now they need to spend an extra £20 this month on data.
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Jan 3, 2023 12:15
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That sucks but it's also user error for not disabling app updates while on mobile data.
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Jan 3, 2023 12:23
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bessantj posted:That makes sense hoovering up those MRAs and the MGTOW people. Like miss (ms? probably not) you just named the problem there and it's not feminism. It's the other ism. Scaredism  Reveilled posted:YouTube believes I am deeply interested in shorts about chess, science, comedy skits based on language OwlFancier posted:and this is why ancient people were so healthy
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Miftan posted:Tiktok did a 4gb update last night on a friend's phone without asking, in the background, while they were out of the house and WiFi range. Now they need to spend an extra £20 this month on data. How tf does tiktok need four loving gigs?
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Jan 3, 2023 12:28
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I watch lots of YouTube shorts of animals being dumbasses. The keen editing is a boon
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Jan 3, 2023 12:28
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Tesseraction posted:How tf does tiktok need four loving gigs? It doesn’t, the whole app is under 400mb It’ll take up a ton of local storage as you watch videos since it caches them but it would be insane for it to decide to download 4gb of random videos in the background all by itself
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Jan 3, 2023 12:29
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Not TikTok but Wechat has been extremely hilarious in storing multiple gigabytes of encrypted data out of maybe 100KB worth of text chats I did on it. I haven't used it for a while since I know better now.
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Tesseraction posted:How tf does tiktok need four loving gigs? No idea, but the app itself says it used 4 gigs of data in under 12 hours which I didn't even think was possible, but here we are.
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Videos are big. Spend a few hours idly scrolling it and not on wifi and you’ll burn through 4gb in 4-5 hours easily.
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domhal posted:One curious case of YouTuber madness is Wranglerstar, who used to post interesting but possibly anachronistic US Forestry Service tool maintenance shorts but has recently descended into or revealed an astonishing level of sovcit/prepper madness. Oh i remember watching him years ago.  He's lost the bloody plot, i pity his family tbh they were nice. I stopped once he started doing bible readings... i assume they will end up in the same quanon mess in time.  edit: spelling Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Jan 3, 2023 |
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keep punching joe posted:That sucks but it's also user error for not disabling app updates while on mobile data. Also you should be able to set a mobile data cap so that if it does happen it'll cut off before bankrupting you.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Videos are big. Spend a few hours idly scrolling it and not on wifi and you’ll burn through 4gb in 4-5 hours easily. My wife's infinite scrolling of annoying Instagram videos exceeds the loving Netflix traffic on our connection. It's ridiculous.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Videos are big. Spend a few hours idly scrolling it and not on wifi and you’ll burn through 4gb in 4-5 hours easily. When I'm suggesting what data allowances people should look for on their mobiles or tablets etc, I reckon on 1GB per hour if they plan on watching videos - whether youtubes or streaming episodes of Law & Order, Midsomer Murders or zoom calls. Whatsapp, Facetime, Messenger are more like about 300MB per hour so say 1GB per 3 hours. Video gobbles up data at an amazing rate.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Videos are big. Spend a few hours idly scrolling it and not on wifi and you’ll burn through 4gb in 4-5 hours easily. It was a background data download, they hadn't even used tiktok for more than like 20 minutes that day iirc Microplastics posted:Also you should be able to set a mobile data cap so that if it does happen it'll cut off before bankrupting you. that's been done now as well as deleting tiktok out of spite. Lesson learned, but those things should really be on by default imo
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Sir Sidney Poitier posted:My wife's infinite scrolling of annoying Instagram videos exceeds the loving Netflix traffic on our connection. It's ridiculous.
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This is basically the only website I visit now. This and The National for my daily download of #TeamNicola nonsense.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:When I'm suggesting what data allowances people should look for on their mobiles or tablets etc, I reckon on 1GB per hour if they plan on watching videos - whether youtubes or streaming episodes of Law & Order, Midsomer Murders or zoom calls. Whatsapp, Facetime, Messenger are more like about 300MB per hour so say 1GB per 3 hours. I managed to burn through 2GB of data on a 1 hour meeting because they used some stupid not-Zoom app and I forgot to turn on my wifi.
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Guavanaut posted:This sounds a lot more like what I'd actually like to watch. I can tell you it thinks I like chess because I watch videos by Gothamchess and chess simp, and the shorts it serves me on science are from Action Lab, NileRed, SciShow and Hank Green. Don’t know who the language skit guy is but it’s mostly about the differences between French and english. So if you want to influence YouTube in that direction, try subscriptions in that direction. In my experience though the best way to train YouTube’s algorithm on you is to internalise its metric. It doesn’t care if you like or hate the content it shows you, it cares whether you keep watching. So you can train the algorithm by responding to videos you don’t like by closing YouTube and going to do something else for a while. Even clicking off the video and watching something else can be interpreted as positive for your overall watch time. There’s options to say not to recommend a channel any more, but I’m personally suspicious that YouTube’s black box could actually interpret that as “engagement” and try showing you similar content from other creators in an effort to get you to stay on the platform longer telling it to stop showing you those videos. The absolute strongest signal you can send the algorithm negatively is just to stop watching YouTube in response to a video. Conversely, if it recommends you an actual good video from a creator you’ve never heard of, subscribing, commenting, or watching more of that person’s videos right away (especially if that’s YouTube’s next recommendation) tells YouTube that was a correct guess. There’s a weirdly distopian element to this all that I have to calculatively manipulate a computer’s opinion of me is in order to improve the quality of my entertainment, but I’d say it has broadly worked—I think I could count on one hand the number of times in the last five years YouTube has tried recommending me an alt-right influencer—it knows.
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i’ve deleted my tik tok now but all i had were footie videos and chinese people making traditional clay teapots by hand
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keep punching joe posted:This is basically the only website I visit now.
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History Comes Inside! posted:It doesn’t, the whole app is under 400mb Apparently the android version is only 90mb.
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keep punching joe posted:This is basically the only website I visit now. Which I guess is why my wife gets annoyed that I don't watch the videos she sends me links to, when I'd rather just have a transcript I can read in two minutes instead of watching in ten.
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