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Adun posted:Yeah I mean the only real prism to look through actions by the league office is what maximizes revenue for the NFL with the least risk to the value of the brand. I would think there’s absolutely no way the league office is looking at that situation and telling people to continue the game given the potential long term harm to “the shield” from having to broadcast a player has died while the game he died in is still being played and broadcast. Hell, WWE survived (and even thrived) after one of their wrestlers literally died in the ring during a Pay Per View and they continued the show.
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Docjowles posted:Same. This is now my head canon (especially since the real story is terrible) and Lamar no longer has the funniest poop story in sports He never did, it'll always be Najeh Davenport pooping in a hamper I could swear we even had a smilie for it
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Narcissus1916 posted:This is way back in 1989 but an incredible NHL story - https://www.coffeeordie.com/james-pizzutelli One of the biggest freak accidents in sports history. Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jan 3, 2023 |
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:It makes perfect sense that people who have recently been traumatized resort to things that are familiar and comfortable to cope with their feelings. There's really no playbook on what to do in a situation like this. They probably just needed to do something. Anything. Yeah, my experience is military so obviously a football game is different context but "hey until we hear otherwise we've still got a job to do, lets do some warm-ups/run through some things/etc" is exactly the sort of thing I'd expect from a first-line leader like a team captain or QB in a situation like this. It would be something I would do, if only to get my guys out of just sitting there marinating in trauma. Jarmak fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jan 3, 2023 |
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Crazy Ted posted:Is this the Clint Malarchuk incident? I saw that on SportsCenter as a kid and jeezus elementary school me was not ready for it. Yup. And if you haven't seen it, don't watch any videos without reading first and knowing what you are getting into because you actually see what's happening.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Hell, WWE survived (and even thrived) after one of their wrestlers literally died in the ring during a Pay Per View and they continued the show. That was also over 20 years ago. Thankfully the public’s sensibilities have changed since then.
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That fundraiser has now crossed the four million dollar mark.
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Adun posted:That was also over 20 years ago. Thankfully the public’s sensibilities have changed since then. Thankfully the dumb 'keep calm and carry on' sensibility to (other people's) trauma is way less prevalent than it was even a decade or so ago.
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Narcissus1916 posted:What I'll remember is ABC just awkwardly looping the same commercials for nearly an hour (The Rookie/Feds crossover was shown at least 15 times) only to cut back to the commenters and analysts trying like hell to do something other than sit in silence and sob. I was watching on ESPN2 (flipped over when the Rose Bowl was a done deal and never switched back to ESPN), and they switched over to SVP and Ryan Clark like ESPN did. But at some point, someone decided to resume ESPN2's normal schedule and it suddenly switched to... The World Knife Throwing Championship.
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Cthulu Carl posted:I was watching on ESPN2 (flipped over when the Rose Bowl was a done deal and never switched back to ESPN), and they switched over to SVP and Ryan Clark like ESPN did. But at some point, someone decided to resume ESPN2's normal schedule and it suddenly switched to... The World Knife Throwing Championship.
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HappyHippo posted:FWIW, the Times says this about the five minute thing: I have a sneaky feeling that the actual process went like this: - Injury and first responders scramble - Refs notice issue and radio NY - Middle management in NY toes the usual company line of “yeah looks bad but gotta play. Give them 5 minutes” because these are the dudes who are terrified of looking disloyal to the brass and they’re following the standing order. - Taylor and McDermott go “lol no” after that along with the players - Middle Management now has grounds to call their bosses and be like “we tried to get play to resume” - Bosses, whether by having their hands forced or not, begin the company line of “cancel the game”, likely at a point where they now have plausible deniability that technically Goodell/Vincent weren’t the ones to demand play resume so they can act disturbed and surprised when they knew full well what the middle managers tried to do because this is what you use standing orders for. Avoiding accountability, whether you’re Wells Fargo, the mob, or the NFL, is about making your middle management the enforcers so you can put on a human suit and act surprised when they do the thing you programmed them to do proper. Someone in the middle office will be hung out to dry here if they’re trotting out Vincent to do this.
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Eifert Posting posted:If I were the NFL or ESPN I would pay somebody to read the room and temporarily disappear Adam Schefter when it's needed. Same, except permanently disappear
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Crazy Ted posted:That fundraiser has now crossed the four million dollar mark. It's interesting going and looking at the donations. It's mostly just random people but ones that stood out were a couple fantasy football leagues. Chris Jericho donated $10k Andy Dalton & his wife donated $3k Some dude named Sam Malley donated $15k
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It's at 4.2 million now. It's almost mesmerizing to watch it go. Also it looks like Jordon Rooney (Damar's marketing rep) or someone updated the banner and whatnot to make it look a bit more generalist. They still haven't removed the original 2020-referring copy, likely because it's Damar's own words.
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Joey Freshwater posted:It's interesting going and looking at the donations. It's mostly just random people but ones that stood out were a couple fantasy football leagues.
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Joey Freshwater posted:It's interesting going and looking at the donations. It's mostly just random people but ones that stood out were a couple fantasy football leagues. CMC donated 1k as well
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Idk how verified the names are but Rudy Guliani has donated $1k a few times
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SpaceDrake posted:It's at 4.2 million now. It's almost mesmerizing to watch it go. Looks like it'll be used for both his community initiatives and, I'm guessing, any help he might need if he gets out of the hospital. "If you would like to show your support and contribute to Damar’s community initiatives and his current fight, this is the place to do so. "
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Joey Freshwater posted:How does it work when a player is injured to the point they can't play anymore or needs ongoing treatment? Is there like an NFL insurance plan or are they just expected to fend for themselves with whatever they've made playing? I'm pretty sure the league paid for the entirety of Shazier's treatment, which is probably the best contemporary equivalent.
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TheBizzness posted:I know this isn't important at all but like... theres no way the Bills can even be ready to play by Sunday right let alone making up the Bengals game? If this turns out to be the case, I think we get a league wide pause of all week 18 games.
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Joey Freshwater posted:How does it work when a player is injured to the point they can't play anymore or needs ongoing treatment? Is there like an NFL insurance plan or are they just expected to fend for themselves with whatever they've made playing? There are substantial injury benefits defined in the current CBA - his salary for _this year_ would be 100% guaranteed for instance. There is an extended injury protection that can be had for subsequent years but it's cost capped (unless the player negotiated more in their contract). I couldnt' quite parse the language of the CBA but it looks like his medical and such is 100% covered, his salary for this year and the rest of his contract would be covered as well. There are caps for the salary benefit to be paid out but as a 6th round draft pick his contract wouldnt' have hit those caps anyway
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TheBizzness posted:I know this isn't important at all but like... theres no way the Bills can even be ready to play by Sunday right let alone making up the Bengals game? i think it really depends what Damar's status is by the weekend.
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Hamlin's situation is a total unknown and there are plausible circumstances that could make this game meaningless. It's smart of them to hold off on a decision. Anybody who thought they were just going to fly Buffalo back into town today or tomorrow is dramatically underestimating the logistics involved would be my guess.
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Cthulu Carl posted:I was watching on ESPN2 (flipped over when the Rose Bowl was a done deal and never switched back to ESPN), and they switched over to SVP and Ryan Clark like ESPN did. But at some point, someone decided to resume ESPN2's normal schedule and it suddenly switched to... The World Knife Throwing Championship. Mentioning ESPN2 made me realize - can you imagine if there was a Manningcast last night?
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TheBizzness posted:I know this isn't important at all but like... theres no way the Bills can even be ready to play by Sunday right let alone making up the Bengals game? I mean, the Chiefs played the day after Jovan shot himself in from of the head coach and other players. This isn't exactly the same thing, but I'd be surprised if next weeks game gets cancelled/postponed.
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Cartoon Man posted:If this turns out to be the case, I think we get a league wide pause of all week 18 games. This would be very logical and the NFL could just take away the bye week before the Superbowl
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No matter what happens, that GFM has turned in to a full endowment. Hopefully once things calm down, he and/or his family can start working with a non-profit lawyer and you will likely see the Damar Hamlin Foundation as a result. Only positive to come from this.
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Dango Bango posted:Mentioning ESPN2 made me realize - can you imagine if there was a Manningcast last night? Yeah, that thought hit me I think about the time Ryan Clark was giving SVP that "[Hypothetical "Hey y'all, Damar's fine, he just had a fart stuck" news] That news doesn't let me hug my brother, doesn't let me hold his hand, doesn't let me see him after I saw what happened. Even if he's fine, the game should be postponed" speech. A Manningcast (Or one of the McAfeecasts for the college playoffs)... I can't imagine that going well.
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Lifespan posted:No matter what happens, that GFM has turned in to a full endowment. Hopefully once things calm down, he and/or his family can start working with a non-profit lawyer and you will likely see the Damar Hamlin Foundation as a result. Only positive to come from this. Isn't the Chasing M's Foundation the name of it? Or is that something different / not set up by Damar?
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