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If the NBA can do the bubble tournament, I think the NFL can, with great effort and difficulty, push each playoff game back a week and keep the Super Bowl on February 12, 2023. They can but they might not want to. The Super Bowl is strictly immovable because it is a global event and you need to have valid visas and arrangements for everyone covering (and funding) the event. The Pro Bowl can be moved into the offseason or canceled because nobody has been named yet and they were going to hold a flag football/combine skills showcase instead of an exhibition scrimmage anyway. It will be incredibly arduous, but I believe it is possible to move the start of the playoffs back a week, because every other subsequent playoff venue (not occupied by a team that has clinched a bye) is only selected once the previous week's result come in. Prepping the teams and the stadium for game day has always been on a week-by-week basis save for the Super Bowl. But it would also make this year the asterisk year where there was no prep week before the Super Bowl, the quality of play could suffer, or worse the players would suffer further life-threatening injuries. Simplex posted:I doubt the NFL goes in that direction, but I think it's much less of a problem than people are making it out to be. I don't put anything past the NFL, I feel Bills @ Cincy was surely the exception, that the head office's hand was forced. I don't expect the NFL to be compassionate going forward.
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Simplex posted:Yeah, except I already said the Super Bowl is the only thing they can't change the date and time.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:The point is is that the talking point has been beaten into the ground and no one cares about your, or anyone elses, thoughts about how to fix the situation with the Bills/Bengals game being "postponed". I'm sure every one has thought about what they think is best but the rest of us are sick of reading about every one elses idea on how to fix it. Have we gotten Elon Musk's input?
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:The NFL needs to have a 19 week season where each team gets two byes. And now they'll put a bye between the end of the regular season and the start of the playoffs in case of future pandemic, natural disaster, or traumatic player health tragedy. I agree with you there. That's real clear. However, AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:The point is is that the talking point has been beaten into the ground and no one cares about your, or anyone elses, thoughts about how to fix the situation with the Bills/Bengals game being "postponed". I'm sure every one has thought about what they think is best but the rest of us are sick of reading about every one elses idea on how to fix it. This is the thread for that talking point. Everyone talks about their own team in the division threads, the coaches in the coach thread, and the quarterback in the quarterback thread. Two days doesn't make something old news. News and Views in the N/V Thread. Do I agree with you that there should be 19 weeks? Yes. But this isn't the Week 19 thread.
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TDepressionEarl posted:This is the thread for that talking point. Everyone talks about their own team in the division threads, the coaches in the coach thread, and the quarterback in the quarterback thread. Two days doesn't make something old news. News and Views in the N/V Thread. Do I agree with you that there should be 19 weeks? Yes. But this isn't the Week 19 thread.
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Mega64 posted:Wentz has to be a career backup by now. This is the first time he's been benched twice in a year and third-stringed. I can't imagine how much lower he can fall without being out of the league outright
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Chris James 2 posted:This is the first time he's been benched twice in a year and third-stringed. I can't imagine how much lower he can fall without being out of the league outright Lower would be playing for the Browns or Texans or being buried on a depth chart behind… let’s say Nathan Peterman.
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I think Wentz still has a future by earning Washington a 6th rounder.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I think Wentz still has a future by earning Washington a 6th rounder.
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Asproigerosis posted:Have we gotten Elon Musk's input? Twitter poll that he deletes and never mentions again when he realizes the result is not going his way
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Mega64 posted:Wentz has to be a career backup by now. If he's as insufferable as all the reports indicate he might not even be that. He was in his early thirties, sure, but Jeff George couldn't' get a backup job just 2 years after winning CBPOTY because he was such an rear end in a top hat.
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Okay, but, seriously: is anyone actually expecting the Bills, any of the Bills, to suit up and go out there on Sunday morning if Hamlin is anything less than awake, alert and responsive? Some of those guys literally watched a man fall over dead next to them, like a puppet with cut strings. They're grappling with how it could happen to any of them and how their dear friend and teammate could very well be properly dead. This isn't the kind of thing you process in six days. I think the Bengals can probably readjust enough to put on something resembling a football game (although I suspect Tee Higgins' entire remaining season is probably over, of his own volition) but even if they do put on helmets and lace up shoes, I can't imagine the Bills are going to be in anything like a head-space to actually play a football game. I know there's reporting now that they're beginning prep to try and play that game, but jesus christ I just can't imagine how they're going to actually do that, Tough Football Men or no. Man this situation is just so terrible all around.  Of course, if Hamlin manages to wake up in the next 72 hours or so and turns out to be at least mostly okay, that'd change the mood somewhat and we'll get treated to the Bills giving the Pats wedgies up and down the field. Boy, I had to consider that line and think about the language we use to describe football games.
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SpaceDrake posted:Okay, but, seriously: is anyone actually expecting the Bills, any of the Bills, to suit up and go out there on Sunday morning if Hamlin is anything less than awake, alert and responsive? I think people handle adversity in all kinds of ways - think of Favre's lengendary MNF game after his father died. It wouldn't surprise me if there are plenty of Bills who want to get on that field and obliterate the Patriots in honor of their teammate.
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Mega64 posted:Wentz has to be a career backup by now. There is no point of even having Wentz as a backup because you ideally you want your backup to not come in and totally implode the game away on his own
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SpaceDrake posted:Boy, I had to consider that line and think about the language we use to describe football games. Ryan Clark's remarks about football metaphors Monday night were incredibly on point.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I dunno man, if he bombed out in Washington of all places, I dont think anyone is going to trade for that contract again.
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SpaceDrake posted:Okay, but, seriously: is anyone actually expecting the Bills, any of the Bills, to suit up and go out there on Sunday morning if Hamlin is anything less than awake, alert and responsive? the only person i could see not playing on sunday to process things is tee higgins. in the moment of that game where it happened no one was going to go back out there, but athletes are wired to compete and i suspect pretty much all of them will be right back at it now that time has passed and we're at a stable point
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I'm not trying to backseat mod so I'm not going to argue about it. At this point it should have its own thread because some people want to talk about it while most people dont care to read about it anymore. Its not exactly a week 18 topic if we want to get pedantic. I understand people want to talk about it and thats completely fine, but there are other topics to talk about for week for week 18, too. You're right. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4021210
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Dango Bango posted:Ryan Clark's remarks about football metaphors Monday night were incredibly on point. From listening to the radio and hearing it on TV, Sports metaphors in general (not just football) have moved away from humanizing terms like "player" to de-humanizing terms like assets, pieces, weapons, battles. Ryan Clark's discussion from Monday night only put those terms in more of a stark contrast. The players are being presented more things to be used and discarded. However, discussions around superstars are things like "quarterback name" needs more weapons around him so he can go out there and win the super bowl. It's weird and disconcerting. The discussion in media seems to really deemphasize the team aspect of these sports. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong media, but that's what I hear.
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SpaceDrake posted:Okay, but, seriously: is anyone actually expecting the Bills, any of the Bills, to suit up and go out there on Sunday morning if Hamlin is anything less than awake, alert and responsive? I actually expect the large majority of the team to do so. It's a very common and cliched sports mindset to go "I need to do this for _____" in the face of tragedy. I imagine most players on the team will think a win and even playoff success is one of the greatest ways to honor him. That being said, of course this is an unprecedented experience. Ryan Clark's perspective immediately after on ESPN was interesting, specifically how he went to Tomlin with a team of doctors and experts to try to play in Denver again and Tomlin had to kick them all out and tell him it's not happening. They're all crazy, for many this sport is all they know, and it is the biggest impact on how they function in life.
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Nodoze posted:There is no point of even having Wentz as a backup because you ideally you want your backup to not come in and totally implode the game away on his own I legitimately think there's a drat good chance Washington cuts Wentz and he's just out of the league. What does he really offer at this point?
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Q_res posted:I legitimately think there's a drat good chance Washington cuts Wentz and he's just out of the league. What does he really offer at this point? Tall, white, big arm and had that 1 year he was almost mvp. Trust me I can fix him
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SpaceDrake posted:Okay, but, seriously: is anyone actually expecting the Bills, any of the Bills, to suit up and go out there on Sunday morning if Hamlin is anything less than awake, alert and responsive? It'll be same as always with an extra prayer circle about manning it up for the hamman.
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The Dave posted:I actually expect the large majority of the team to do so. It's a very common and cliched sports mindset to go "I need to do this for _____" in the face of tragedy. I imagine most players on the team will think a win and even playoff success is one of the greatest ways to honor him. drat, tomlin owns
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Tall, white, big arm and had that 1 year he was almost mvp. Trust me I can fix him  Okay you've convinced me. Josh McDaniels will bring him in as Brady's backup in Vegas.
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SpaceDrake posted:Okay, but, seriously: is anyone actually expecting the Bills, any of the Bills, to suit up and go out there on Sunday morning if Hamlin is anything less than awake, alert and responsive? I imagine a lot of players are learning what commotio cordis is for the first time and maybe wondering if football is still worth it. At the very least, I could see more guys shying away from direct hits because they don’t want to be the next Hamlin.
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Backup QB isn't a measure of skill. It's a measure of good vibes. Carson Wentz has nauseatingly bad vibes. The ideal backup is like Drew Stanton: the offense can move the ball, and the starter's job isn't a looming decision over the locker room
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Backups are obviously not good enough to be starters, but that doesn't mean you want someone like Wentz as your backup who at any given moment can totally implode the game. Ideally you have someone who can manage the game and not give it away and those words will never describe Carson Wentz
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Q_res posted:I legitimately think there's a drat good chance Washington cuts Wentz and he's just out of the league. What does he really offer at this point? He can shoot a lot of ducks.
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Q_res posted:I legitimately think there's a drat good chance Washington cuts Wentz and he's just out of the league. What does he really offer at this point? Top 64 QB play (as an aggregate at least).
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Forrest on Fire posted:Backup QB isn't a measure of skill. It's a measure of good vibes. Carson Wentz has nauseatingly bad vibes. The ideal backup is like Drew Stanton: the offense can move the ball, and the starter's job isn't a looming decision over the locker room https://i.imgur.com/IYJ6eGr.mp4
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Odds for a Bears #1 pick are increasing. https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1610696914382602260
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:The point is is that the talking point has been beaten into the ground and no one cares about your, or anyone elses, thoughts about how to fix the situation with the Bills/Bengals game being "postponed". I'm sure every one has thought about what they think is best but the rest of us are sick of reading about every one elses idea on how to fix it.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Odds for a Bears #1 pick are increasing. If the Bears are gonna do this the Texans should start *checks notes* Kyle Allen. We need to see what we have!
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R.D. Mangles posted:It's Peterman time. This is the shot of joy we needed after Monday’s heartache.
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