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Bro Dad posted:also he faked having a heart attack multiple times while filming avengers because he was mad he didn't get a bigger role
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MeatwadIsGod posted:You should definitely read it. Imo the only stuff that hasn't aged well is the orientalism and a couple plot beats with Haydée. In addition to having really strong characters and some very tense scenes it has badass passages like this I've said this before, but Valentine's plot also didn't age well because of how fundamentally Dantes (and by extension Dumas) doesn't see teenaged girls as people. Dantes is also a slaveowner (referring here to Ali more than Haydee). Still a good book and I'd recommend reading it, though -- it's public domain and Dumas has been dead for 150 years so it's not like you have to worry about your patronage supporting bad political actors or whatever Just be prepared for a long read. I don't know how much the abridged version cuts out, but the unabridged version could have used a little abridging loquacius has issued a correction as of 15:46 on Jan 4, 2023 |
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ymgve posted:I guess it was to contrast the new influencer generation that have clout but no money or real power (I think the trip was sponsored for them?) with old people from old money yeah thought it felt like there was some angle I’m missing? like I didn’t get how the discussion of gender roles in the opening scene ties into the end with the harem, and then like even how he gets the crew member fired out of jealousy so they have some influence? but yea they did say the trip was sponsored and then obviously the opening scene talking about how male models make 1/3rd of female models and then credit card denial so like they go out of their way to show their poor? actually now that I write that, that’s probably it and the movie is exceptionally Liberal because it goes out of the way to show: see, people are evil and lovely even if they’re poor!! money doesn’t make people lovely!! Xaris has issued a correction as of 17:10 on Jan 4, 2023 |
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Zvahl posted:not living there i'm coming at it from the viewpoint of what I see from the outside, but france seems to be more inclined towards color-based racism as their bigotry of choice, as opposed to the genital inspection fever that's taking over the pedoph isles i guess that's true. also it takes some time for the culture war stuff from the anglo world to arrive here.
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Xaris posted:actually now that I write that, that’s probably it and the movie is exceptionally Liberal because it goes out of the way to show: see, people are evil and lovely even if they’re poor!! money doesn’t make people lovely!! the director is deffo a tedious shitlib
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Watched The Menu last night. Pretty good. Need to eat a cheeseburger today.
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Also it was cool to immediately recognize Jekyll's Driftwood Beach at the start.
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Xaris posted:yeah thought it felt like there was some angle I’m missing? like I didn’t get how the discussion of gender roles in the opening scene ties into the end with the harem, and then like even how he gets the crew member fired out of jealousy so they have some influence? The initial protagonists are hot people as a setup for how economic power dynamics commodify relationships and attention. It's just a more explicit version of the part where the lady in the pool coerce the employees into "having fun" on her behalf. Didn't particularly care for the movie TBH. First half was a pretty bogstandard "eat the rich" story of the type that has become suspiciously common in Hollywood recently for me to see it as all that interesting or radical, and the second part was just kind of an unfocused mess? Still funny that a movie with a minutes-long vomiting gag ended up winning the Palme d'Or though.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Watched The Menu last night. Pretty good. Need to eat a cheeseburger today. Anyone who doesn't want a cheeseburger after seeing The Menu isn't human
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YaketySass posted:Didn't particularly care for the movie TBH. First half was a pretty bogstandard "eat the rich" story of the type that has become suspiciously common in Hollywood recently for me to see it as all that interesting or radical, and the second part was just kind of an unfocused mess? Still funny that a movie with a minutes-long vomiting gag ended up winning the Palme d'Or though. and yeah there has been a suspicious amount of “eat da rich” movies, but they are generally also kinda toothless (which is the intent, a defusatory mechanism for tension and re-entrenchment of end of history) I blame parasite
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I’d also say I did a double feature night of Glass Onion and Triangle of Sadness, and glass onion was definitely the better movie and even as weak and ineffectually liberal as rians Class hierarchy writing is, it had more bite than triangle which I took away as being turbo shitlib at the end.
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a new study bible! posted:Amanda Seyfried did a nice job in The Dropout. I liked her but I didn't get past the first episode. Michael Showalter did the same thing in The Dropout that he did with The Eyes of Tammy Faye where instead of telling the story linearly it just kept hopping around between different moments of her life and idk it just wasn't working for me.
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a new study bible! posted:Amanda Seyfried did a nice job in The Dropout. love this little scene of her in The Return https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za5NcKBYk14
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Xaris posted:and yeah there has been a suspicious amount of “eat da rich” movies, but they are generally also kinda toothless (which is the intent, a defusatory mechanism for tension and re-entrenchment of end of history) Glass Onion felt like reading D&D
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Just watched glass onion - like knives out it's got some fun performances but the mystery plot kinda sucks Johnson's best whodunit remains high school detective TDepressionEarl posted:oh i'm rooting for the guy i guess. hate when a good samaritan gets punished. the glasses make him look way cuter. Don't listen to the Renner haters they're just mad they never unlocked the Happy Rennsday feature on his app
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Glass Onion felt like reading D&D You just don’t understand how SUBVERSIVE it is that the billionaire who controls every institution faces no consequence for his actions, save for the heavy hand of the free market, which is totally going to OWN him for burning the Mona Lisa.
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gosh stop seeing politics everywhere and just enjoy a well made movie!
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Blood Boils posted:Johnson's best whodunit remains high school detective 100%, and he got there the old fashioned way: by mixing and matching bits of Red Harvest, The Maltese Falcon, and The Glass Key, crossing out Dashiell Hammett's name, and writing in his own.
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fits my needs posted:whens the live action rick & morty movie by dan harmon/rian johnson come out they need to develop a camera capable of capturing that much smug
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a new study bible! posted:You just don’t understand how SUBVERSIVE it is that the billionaire who controls every institution faces no consequence for his actions, save for the heavy hand of the free market, which is totally going to OWN him for burning the Mona Lisa. i liked the movie but it sure seemed like a few billion dollars would make the mona lisa stuff go away. like people on twitter would talk about it forever, but i just can't see a universe where that dude is punished for anything that happened
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Even Norton's energy thing being a disaster will only set him back a little, he's obviously rich enough to be totally insured against his own failures. He is very upset at being owned, so I can see why so many ppl are satisfied with Janelle's literal pyrrhic victory
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I keep saying it: every fuel is flammable enough to burn a painting if someone blows it up next to the painting. This doesn't even discredit the project!!!
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like with duke dead no one can place him at the scene of the first murder. and then he can probably get off for murdering duke by just claiming that the dude accidentally drank the wrong thing. like maybe inheritance law experts had the same problem with knives out and there's some legal loophole they could use to gently caress over marta but i get to be blissfully ignorant of that. in glass onion all i could think about at the end was how much faith you're supposed to have in the legal system when we have lived our entire lives seeing the rich get away with basically everything. the turtleneck lady only went to "jail" because she hosed with the money
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like I get that the Mona Lisa is "The Environment" but it's just too silly to take seriously
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if anything the explosion was too small. you can't invoke the hindenberg and have your explosion be some weaksauce poo poo
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well I think the purpose of the explosion was to look sort of cool and kind of artsy rather than like the explosion in The Rock where they drop the thermite plasma too early and Stanley Goodspeed gets gently knocked into the water
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a new study bible! posted:gosh stop seeing politics everywhere and just enjoy a well made movie! sadly it's not well-made, the dialogue sucks rear end, so you get bogged down into the inconsistencies of the plot and all the discourse around it. it's the same thing with all these topical movies. too many filmmakers are just aiming for water cooler moments instead of entertaining people.
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tristeham posted:sadly it's not well-made, the dialogue sucks rear end, so you get bogged down into the inconsistencies of the plot and all the discourse around it. it's the same thing with all these topical movies. too many filmmakers are just aiming for water cooler moments instead of entertaining people. i thought don't look up was better than glass onion because even the protagonists were mocked badly for being ineffectual and then dying
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