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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Warmoth makes custom pickguards that can be anything you want them to be.

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Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Here's some suggested listening for Landgrabber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk2UZBfmGnI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGjI8_V6RWY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRTO5mMdKXU

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Baron von Eevl posted:

Warmoth makes custom pickguards that can be anything you want them to be.

I guess I could do that. I’m really bad at working on guitars though. I guess I can wait to have the money to have someone do it for me.

Edit: it just seems like something that should just exist.

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

TheMightyBoops posted:

I guess I could do that. I’m really bad at working on guitars though. I guess I can wait to have the money to have someone do it for me.

Edit: it just seems like something that should just exist.

There are also make single-coil sized hum buckers. And luthiers.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

TheMightyBoops posted:

Why is it so hard to find a strat with a neck humbucker and middle/bridge single coils? Does someone make this?

you can, homie

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

nitsuga posted:

There are also make single-coil sized hum buckers. And luthiers.

I think the simplest way would be to get a HSH strat and set up the bridge one to coil tap.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

I think I’ll just have someone swap the pickups around on my HSS Strat once I get a price on it.

I know that if you buy custom pickups they’re usually neck/bridge specific, how much does that matter because buying new pickups is even more expensive?

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006

TheMightyBoops posted:

Why is it so hard to find a strat with a neck humbucker and middle/bridge single coils? Does someone make this?

Bucker single buckers are super common, but I don’t think I’ve seen a SSH. If it’s only the pickup orientation you’re looking for and not body style, there are some options for a tele.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



TheMightyBoops posted:

Why is it so hard to find a strat with a neck humbucker and middle/bridge single coils? Does someone make this?

*whispers* telecaster custom

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

ethanol posted:

*whispers* telecaster custom

But the ergonomics!

Edit: more that I already own the guitar.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Bro GFS pickups are good and like $30.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Baron von Eevl posted:

Bro GFS pickups are good and like $30.

But I technically have the requisite pickups. It does matter doesn’t it?

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Not really, bridge pickups are usually wound cooler since the strings' vibrations have a wider amplitude the closer you get to the center. Hums are already usually hotter than singles so you'll probably want the pickup height to be really low on the neck and pretty high at the bridge and middle to compensate.

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

Quizzlefish posted:

Been playing all day. Wife came home to me noodling along with a chord bot and was blown away by the sound of the new rig. Very gratifying.

nice -- thats a win!

Pollyanna posted:

What’s the absolute minimum it takes to make an electric guitar?

If I understand correctly, the basis of an electric guitar is a pickup reacting to vibrations from strings and emitting an electrical signal. Sounds like all you really need is a headstock, a fretboard, strings, a pickup, and a box to put the pickup in and hold the strings over. And the actual shape of the box doesn’t matter too much, it just looks neat with certain designs - you can saw a bunch of it off. Maybe you could even saw the fretboard in half or make it hinged.

I’m imagining just a really long fretboard with a couple pickups, which is amusing.

heres a video that's related to your question. your idea about the minimal guitar is right! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n02tImce3AE

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

landgrabber, have you dug into Andy Summers yet?

He took his years of jazz/classical experience and tried making a punk/reggae sound that eventually found its groove and made The Police the world's biggest rock band for awhile. I can't think of any bends that I've done in their songs, and I've never seen any guitarists use as many inversions and funky chord voicings as he does. They're so much better than just Roxanne and Every Breath You Take that the collective public knows them for.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

luchadornado posted:

landgrabber, have you dug into Andy Summers yet?

He took his years of jazz/classical experience and tried making a punk/reggae sound that eventually found its groove and made The Police the world's biggest rock band for awhile. I can't think of any bends that I've done in their songs, and I've never seen any guitarists use as many inversions and funky chord voicings as he does. They're so much better than just Roxanne and Every Breath You Take that the collective public knows them for.

i have never done a deep dive but i actually think roxanne is a great song, and it's really cool how long the chord progressions are

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Baron von Eevl posted:

Not really, bridge pickups are usually wound cooler since the strings' vibrations have a wider amplitude the closer you get to the center. Hums are already usually hotter than singles so you'll probably want the pickup height to be really low on the neck and pretty high at the bridge and middle to compensate.

Yeah I think I’ll just take them to the music shop and have them swapped around someday.

I just early on had a strat and lived on the bridge and then when I got a Les Paul lived on the neck, so I naturally want the single at the bridge and the humbucker at the neck. Alternatively I could go back in time and not sell the Les Paul to make rent.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

getting way off topic but god the drums in roxanne sound so good.

amazing how so many 70s rock albums had excellent sounding drums, and then in just a few short years you would have the worst rock drum sound of all time on every major 80s rock album, where the drummer would hit the snare and it would reverberate for like seven years

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

Copeland is an amazing drummer. All three are tremendous talents, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmBdz1txGSo

Bring on the Night, So Lonely, Synchronicity II, Can't Stand Losing You are all great songs that get overlooked.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
80s as hell fat snares can be awesome, but I usually hate them. However, I love piccolo snares on slam and hardcore bands, that's my poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRBcf581nmc

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

landgrabber posted:

getting way off topic but god the drums in roxanne sound so good.

amazing how so many 70s rock albums had excellent sounding drums, and then in just a few short years you would have the worst rock drum sound of all time on every major 80s rock album, where the drummer would hit the snare and it would reverberate for like seven years

There needs to be an initiative to fix the drums on some of those records from the 80s. It’s tragic.

duodenum
Sep 18, 2005

Someone is talking poo poo about the 80's in the guitar thread and oh never mind its about the drums who cares about drums

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Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

ethanol posted:

tbf what the poster describes does sound just like a setup issue. for what its worth im still looking for the same fender model without the qc problems. I can't tell you how many misaligned necks i've seen at this point.. but it's a.. lot.. and that's just something you can see right away in the pictures. my rule for buying new fenders at this point is use sweetwater or a shop that you absolutely know will take it back if you find a qc issue.

I don't think the quality issues are quite as prevalent on the mexican line or any line are quite as bad as they are on the reissues, and that looks to have been true for a pretty long time. The mia AV reissues are a trap for very specific buyers who already have perfectly fine guitars and want something exceptionally specific. I could definitely draw some marketing to quality control conclusions on that but having compared directly between mims and mias and to other makers to the reissue it's not all just hype, the guitar felt quite different in feel, fit and finish mostly in the neck, but even down to the nitro lacquer body (but boy do not get me started on how the AV reissues do not have flashcoats like custom shops though).

all this stuff is pretty technical and specific to more expensive heavily taxed models tho... I think if you walk into a shop and find a PRS that plays to your liking over the player, by all means go for it! assuming you can stomach the ugly headstock :) but also don't be afraid to try more fenders with lower action in the shop. and see if you think the prs is still better. If you like the PRS still congrats, you will live a less expensive life than me

To give fender a little credit, my friend's wife has a cream-colored american-made strat from the 80s that is an absolute knockout. When I took it out of its case to play it for the first time, I was expecting to be like "meh. another strat." but no... it had a powerful and irresistible vibe to it. Something about how they got all the little details just right, and it all comes together.

So certainly, Fender can make (and has made) excellent guitars. But as you point out, you might get a lemon! And no matter how often that happens, people will still want to buy Fenders.

It could be that there's some specific design choices that Fender makes, which you can't find anywhere else, but I find it hard to believe. On the other hand, if you know exactly what you want, and know how to get it, and don't mind wading thru some B-stock crap along the way... respect, and good luck to you.

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

I have an American Tele that I got off of Sweetwater and an American Strat from Reverb and they're both fantastic, well-sorted guitars that sound and feel a little nicer than the Squier/Mexican equivalents I've played. The handful of Squier Classic Vibes and Contemporaries I've touched have been pretty well-sorted, as well as the PRS SEs.

I had a used PRS S2 McCarty that was a dealer special order so it had an ebony board and a stunning quilted maple top. It was probably the best guitar from a factory fit and finish standpoint I've ever played, but it was very dark sounding guitar and I did not get along with the pattern vintage neck at all. Wanted something to sit between the Tele and my super strats for classic rock/hard rock sounds, but it honestly sounded best downtuned as a doom metal guitar. Ended up selling it and I'm still kind of hunting for the Les Paulish guitar I end up bonding with. The closest thing was an Edwards Explorer copy with a JB/59 combo that was pretty great, but the Explorer shape didn't really get along with my bum right shoulder.

I think the tl;dr is that any mass-produced item made of wood is going to have some studs and some duds, but I'd hazard PRS is more up with QC than Fender.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
I tried out the PRS S2 Vela today, the satin version. Really nice guitar and the price is knocked down to £900 from somewhere around £1600 retail, although I don't think I'd ever have to pay that much. If I was in work right now I think I'd go for it but whist I have money for a while I can't help but think I shouldn't go for it right now. I'd also like to see the non-satin finish, which does look a little nicer in pictures, or the semihollow although opportunities for that seem scarce. Also the satin neck meant you could feel the wood grain under your hand in a way I've not come across, not necessarily a problem, but I'd like to feel the gloss one for comparison.

Do you folks have a process you go through when considering a major guitar purchase, when you're pushing a grand and beyond? I should probably hold off anyway, but do you wait for a great price to come along etc? I feel like I'd want to handle at least an example of the model before ordering, and ideally be able to try the one I'd be buying.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Helianthus Annuus posted:

To give fender a little credit, my friend's wife has a cream-colored american-made strat from the 80s that is an absolute knockout. When I took it out of its case to play it for the first time, I was expecting to be like "meh. another strat." but no... it had a powerful and irresistible vibe to it. Something about how they got all the little details just right, and it all comes together.

So certainly, Fender can make (and has made) excellent guitars. But as you point out, you might get a lemon! And no matter how often that happens, people will still want to buy Fenders.

It could be that there's some specific design choices that Fender makes, which you can't find anywhere else, but I find it hard to believe. On the other hand, if you know exactly what you want, and know how to get it, and don't mind wading thru some B-stock crap along the way... respect, and good luck to you.

sound wise I agree, I think you can swap single coils into just about anything including a gap between workshop tables apparently... but if you do want a nitro body or for me it's the way the lacquer feels on the fretboard. whereas the mim board coating feels more like pressing on smartphone glass or something. It's a bit odd. I'd love to try a G&L laquer fretboard at some point but it's kinda hard to find locally. But this is all insane high end nitpicky stuff taht definitely doesnt apply to a player strat vs a prs.

ethanol fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jan 5, 2023

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

luchadornado posted:

Copeland is an amazing drummer. All three are tremendous talents, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmBdz1txGSo

Bring on the Night, So Lonely, Synchronicity II, Can't Stand Losing You are all great songs that get overlooked.
Sure, amazing drummer and possible intelligence asset! His father was a founding member of the CIA

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

duodenum posted:

Someone is talking poo poo about the 80's in the guitar thread and oh never mind its about the drums who cares about drums



I really hope everyone has seen the music video for this song, Freight Train by Nitro. Never have so many elements existed in a song with so little musical structure. I might have made this exact post before but it is important to see this man switch from normal/over the top fretting for no reason to play the most fivver quality riff of the decade

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

Wowporn posted:

I really hope everyone has seen the music video for this song, Freight Train by Nitro. Never have so many elements existed in a song with so little musical structure. I might have made this exact post before but it is important to see this man switch from normal/over the top fretting for no reason to play the most fivver quality riff of the decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLOIXPVcFlc

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
I need to make a profile on the katana that's 80s shredder mode where it's just max delay and reverb

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well

Verman posted:

Squire classic vibe jmasters are great but the j mascis is incredible for the price if you can find one that someone isn't asking too much for. I've seen a few people trying to ask crazy prices for them, pushing up towards fender prices.

I found a J Mascis Jazzmaster used with a hard case for $475 used near me, or I could get a new Squier Classic Vibe '60s Jazzmaster for $459. Decisions, decisions...

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

The Leck posted:

Sure, amazing drummer and possible intelligence asset! His father was a founding member of the CIA

Really?? I never knew this, totally bizarre.

He’s always a notorious rear end in a top hat, makes more sense now.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

frogbs posted:

I found a J Mascis Jazzmaster used with a hard case for $475 used near me, or I could get a new Squier Classic Vibe '60s Jazzmaster for $459. Decisions, decisions...

JMJM all day

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
With a hardshell case I'd vote the j mascis if it's in good shape. You figure hs case is an added $100-200 value depending on the brand.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


Spanish Manlove posted:

Seconding this band. Their newer albums have a lot more fun chords than their old ones, but I'm still trying to figure out the last chord in the main verse riff of Back to the Motor League. It feels like its a Bmin7 that turns into an Emaj7 but I'm not sure

I have the whole Sheet Happens collection of tab books. If we're talking about the same chords it should be this:

2 4
4 7
4 6
4 4
2 x
x x

If that aint it, gimme a timestamp and I'll pull it straight from the source my dude

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Those are the two chords. I guessed right on bmaj at least

Thanks!

Quizzlefish
Jan 26, 2005

Am I not merciful?
These might be a niche set up request but is there a way I can use my Katana to listen on headphones to my guitar and me singing into a mic?

I have found that singing into a mic with headphones has really improved my singing. Not sure if it's a bit mental to try and do this while also practicing guitar...

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Quizzlefish posted:

These might be a niche set up request but is there a way I can use my Katana to listen on headphones to my guitar and me singing into a mic?

I have found that singing into a mic with headphones has really improved my singing. Not sure if it's a bit mental to try and do this while also practicing guitar...

If the Katana has an aux in you can route a audio line to that and use the headphone port to listen to both. But the way I do it is using an interface like a Scarlett, plug your headphones into that and turn on the track monitoring in recording software or on the interface direct monitor

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
How do we feel about buying guitars off eBay? I've seen a deal for just what I want, I've played the model and they say it's a few months old with only some mild home use. With eBay's buyer protections such as they are am I going to be alright? I guess I'm just worried about FOMO, could well be I will always be about to find these prices if I look.

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Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


ethanol posted:

If the Katana has an aux in you can route a audio line to that and use the headphone port to listen to both. But the way I do it is using an interface like a Scarlett, plug your headphones into that and turn on the track monitoring in recording software or on the interface direct monitor

the Katana does have an aux in, so that's one way to do it. the Katana can also be plugged into a USB port on your computer and used as a digital interface for your guitar, so you don't necessarily need to buy another interface to try it out over the computer (unless you need one interface to handle both the guitar and a mic).

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