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Actually now unclear to the clerk what should happen, the votes-after-0:00 should not have happened under neutral no party control rules? NOTES BEING PAST AROUND NO RULES POINT OF ORDER YOUR HONOR I OBJECT
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:24 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 03:56 |
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please refer this to whatever voter fraud committee gets made for the CFC thanks in advance
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:25 |
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STOP THE COUNT
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:25 |
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Clerk speaking: "On this vote, the Yays are 216 the Nays are 214 accordingly..."
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:25 |
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Laaaaaame
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:26 |
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My god, it's a Benoit Blanc congressional rules mystery!
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:26 |
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Cowards. So, same poo poo show tomorrow barring some incredible whipping?
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:26 |
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I declare a mistrial
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:26 |
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Kammat posted:Cowards. yes
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:26 |
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Yes but under the rules of bird law...
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:26 |
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Clerk is a loving coward
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:26 |
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That should NOT have happened, but the House staff knows what side is gonna be in charge for the next two years and doesn't want to piss everyone off.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:26 |
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We need Trump's tweets now more than ever
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:27 |
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Charliegrs posted:Between McCarthy, Scalise, Jordan, Biggs, and Donalds who would the house Dems "prefer"? I mean I know they are all terrible but the least terrible from the Dem perspective is probably McCarthy right? McCarthy is probably the least far right on technicality, but they were all 2020 electoral college objectors. There's no reason to try and sway it unless Democrats can get concessions, which you would imagine would mean the speaker was either McCarthy or some moderate. (and I think the bar is high enough for Republicans offering any concessions that there would be a lot of them, but that also means concessions are less likely)
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:31 |
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quote:Republicans Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.) and Bob Good (Va.) — all anti-McCarthy holdouts — voted with Democrats to keep the session going. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla) welcome to the resistance
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:32 |
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Charliegrs posted:Between McCarthy, Scalise, Jordan, Biggs, and Donalds who would the house Dems "prefer"? I mean I know they are all terrible but the least terrible from the Dem perspective is probably McCarthy right? McCarthy and Scalise are less likely to do something ridiculous like actually blocking the debt ceiling. That's about all I can say for them.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:32 |
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I mean, a motion to adjourn is always in order, so if this one failed on a technicality someone could just call a new one. It would be funny to make them do it, but the staff want to sleep too.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:33 |
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Boooo! I wanted another failure for the Repubs and Kevin
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:36 |
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Per Jake Tapper, McCarthy had his guys whip hard for Yeys because someone was going to nominate Scalise, lol
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:37 |
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Charliegrs posted:Between McCarthy, Scalise, Jordan, Biggs, and Donalds who would the house Dems "prefer"? I mean I know they are all terrible but the least terrible from the Dem perspective is probably McCarthy right?
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:39 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Per Jake Tapper, McCarthy had his guys whip hard for Yeys because someone was going to nominate Scalise, lol So now we know what's on the agenda for tomorrow then
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 02:40 |
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Charliegrs posted:Between McCarthy, Scalise, Jordan, Biggs, and Donalds who would the house Dems "prefer"? I mean I know they are all terrible but the least terrible from the Dem perspective is probably McCarthy right? From a cynical standpoint: McCarthy is the one most likely to be dumb as poo poo and say crap that plays bad in the news while also not doing poo poo like blocking the debt ceiling so of those 5 yes. Biggs, Jordan and Donalds would probably piss off the dem base the most which is good for fundraising and turnout.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 03:08 |
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rscott posted:https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1610805223706042369?t=6UvkdeYbNI9ZlsaXFag_-Q&s=19 The most hilarious thing about this is that about the only reason all of this is happening is that McCarthy is too loving stupid to not tell everyone that he'd do anything to be Speaker. With so many grifters and con men in the caucus there was no way he wasn't going to get fleeced once they smelt that beautiful easy mark scent. Which naturally led to an all out frenzy as more and more sharks smelled the blood in the water. If nobody wants the job, except one guy it's obvious to everyone that concessions can be gained. So the normal horse trading was already amplified. However, McCarthy then started caving to crazy demands. And once you start negotiating like an addict looking for a fix, you're going to lose everything. Right now we're down to about the title and the copper wiring in the office's walls left. Normal circumstances, he probably would be Speaker. But then his buddies started begging someone, anyone, to tell them what they had to give up so this could all be over. Now there is absolutely no incentive to back down. The insanity crew is getting all their concessions no matter who wins at this point. At the same time McCarthy is both too pathetic to follow, and his head is the last thing of value left to take from him. Maybe McCarthy's pals can scrounge up something to give to enough outside interests that enough of the "NO" votes are placated. However, it's looking more and more likely that the only way he becomes Speaker is to make a deal with Jeffries. It's unlikely, but about the only things he has left to give are things that no Republican wants but Democrats might. No matter what happens though, McCarthy is the most pathetic politician in the US now. Letting him drink himself into oblivion from his back bencher office might even be the kinder move than making him keep all his promises and become the least powerful and least respected Speaker in history. A Speaker that goes down in history for being so notably pathetic that theses in multiple fields are written about it.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 03:33 |
Gyges posted:
Also, let's not forget, with all these concessions the job would be worthless. He'd be speaker for a day then someone would call a no-confidence vote because he dared to approve the payment of Social Security checks or some poo poo.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 03:56 |
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If we turned off heat to the building do you think we could get them to fight each other? What about a repeat of Jan 6th?
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 03:59 |
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https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1610677777853808640 Since there's no Speaker and no rules, Laura Loomer has decided to try and infiltrate the House and see how long it takes before anyone realizes she lost her congressional primary and kicks her the gently caress out
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 04:01 |
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rscott posted:https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1610805223706042369?t=6UvkdeYbNI9ZlsaXFag_-Q&s=19 why hadn't that been done already??
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 04:06 |
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nine-gear crow posted:https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1610677777853808640 lmao
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 04:09 |
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Doctor Teeth posted:why hadn't that been done already?? He's already caved on everything (to the point where other people are begging McCarthy in public to stop giving in to demands immediately) and now they are making up new crazier demands that he can't fulfill because they don't want to look like they made a deal with him. And McCarthy is agreeing to talk about these new crazy deals like putting Lauren Boebert ahead of 20+ other people to head the committee she wants or giving them tens of millions of dollars to create a committee to investigate the January 6th Committee. There are 4-5 of them that just don't want a deal period because the point is to look like you stood up to the man and bravely went down fighting. So, they just keep making new demands, McCarthy folds, they don't vote for him, and they make new demands. Marjorie Taylor Greene is apparently the only one that is a bad negotiator and accepted Kevin's first round of bribes.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 04:13 |
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In MTG's defense, she was one of the first people to make a stupidass deal with McCarthy, so she had good reason to not expect him to be willing to sell his own kidney if it would make her happy. I just can't tell if she is just sticking to the deal because that's how she rolls or she's terrified that nobody else is dumb enough to give her what she already got so this motherfuck just has to win.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 04:17 |
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Doctor Teeth posted:why hadn't that been done already?? I mean they did some of it, MTG is supporting McCarthy for committee assignments. But the people who just want the rule changes probably aren't enough to elect a speaker, and I don't think the Gaetz cohort actually have demands as opposed to loving things up because they can.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 04:18 |
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The Supreme Court already struck down term limits as unconstitutional in the 90's when Gingrich passed them. They are just making weirder and more extreme demands of McCarthy and he keeps accepting them. One or two of the people holding out must be trying to end this while saving face or getting a committee spot. Otherwise, this is a weird thing to agree to change your vote for. https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1610844016907542532
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 04:45 |
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Someone at WaPo is hitting the bong in their freshman dorm and writing headlines. https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1610843794651357184
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 04:50 |
Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Supreme Court already struck down term limits as unconstitutional in the 90's when Gingrich passed them. "Every Representative, a Speaker of the House!"
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 04:53 |
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A one-person vote of no-confidence, guaran-fuckin-teeing every political reporter in America rushes to write the headline "REP. DICKHEAD CALLS FOR NEW SPEAKER." This concession made in abject surrender to people who have proven to be malignant narcissists who cannot shut the gently caress up. this sounds like perhaps the greatest idea in political history wonder why he ever opposed it
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 05:04 |
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I'm starting to get the feeling that y'all don't like this McCarthy feller.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 05:06 |
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US House Speaker Election TVIV: Kevin Will Conditionally gently caress Himself
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 05:12 |
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So how many more rounds before he agrees to refer to every other Republican rep as only Master or Mistress?
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 05:13 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:US House Speaker Election TVIV: Kevin Will Continually gently caress Himself
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 05:22 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 03:56 |
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Someone's going to mess around just long enough for Liz Truss to be named the next Speaker. As a nation, we might even deserve that.
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# ? Jan 5, 2023 05:24 |