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| 🦋 |
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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
| dragonfly |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
| 🐝 |
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87 | 21.53% |
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lmao e: a snype so bad it's triggering, haw haw. 
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Jan 5, 2023 05:47
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People always dismiss Italy but of the Axis navies imo the Regia Marina put on the best showing and most imperilled the strategic situation. The reason is that the RN was never expected to hold on to the Med while also fighting the IJN and Kriegsmarine. While they suffered setbacks in the North Atlantic and Pacific too, none were as dangerous as in the Med. Their losses in that theatre bear that out, over a dozen cruisers and two carriers off the top of my head. In terms of prewar planning it came with the greatest shock too. The Singapore Strategy didn’t hang on the Dutch or the US Asiatic Fleet. Because of British global commitments, in the Med the Marine Nationale that was supposed not only to tip the balance, but do the bulk of the fighting. Just look at their ships built interwar - France and Italy were building against each other. With France out of the war Italy became much, much more dangerous than total numbers suggest since the Royal Navy could barely provide enough ships to keep them at bay, had to pause refits and even repairs, suffered appalling losses to dive and torpedo bombers etc. Italy siding with Germany ultimately ended up in disaster, but it dramatically shifted the balance as it took France out of the war. Which makes the interwar hypotheticals about Suez and Gibraltar a bit silly since presumably the Marine Nationale is still there to stop them. The Axis campaigns in North Africa aren’t possible if Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia are French. Libya would be rolled up about as quickly as Italian East Africa. Vincent O’Hara has some fantastic books on this if you’re interested.
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Jan 5, 2023 06:02
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This one is hard to track down, but it's an updated law about mandatory military service in Ukraine, because only the russians are reposting it as a "haha look at how bad it's getting over there" and a few specific Ukrainian news sites. Rough machine translation, so if anyone wants to correct or follow feel free https://novynarnia.com/2023/01/04/uryad-zatverdyv-poryadok-vzyattya-na-vijskovyj-oblik-shho-novogo/ quote:The Cabinet of Ministers has approved a new procedure for the organization and maintenance of military registration of conscripts, persons liable for military service and reservists. It's mainly the last one where Ukrainian consulates are supposed to keep track of everyone national liable for military service living outside the country. Which seems a bit insane, and everyone has their own idea of how it would even work. My personal guess is that someone might try and roundup a few extra hands hanging around in countries where Ukrainian army is already being trained and just tossing them in there.
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Jan 5, 2023 06:04
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I would say though that while the Regia Marina was a threat, they very clearly needed German support on the ground to make a difference. The Italians weren’t completely toothless (at least on sea) but far from truly independent. We will see if there is ever a larger mobilization of women, otherwise, the question becomes the through put the Ukrainians can put through Western aligned training programs versus losses.
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Jan 5, 2023 06:12
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They can’t really enforce it though. I mean, who knows what they can do in terms of fines or whatever, entering the country, but they can’t arrest you abroad or anything. e: It’s a good point, mostly because the Italians ran out of fuel very early on and from there were dependant on Germany, even to facilitate oil from Romania, let alone the fields seized in the USSR.
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Jan 5, 2023 06:14
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The ukrane should surredner
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Jan 5, 2023 06:15
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euphronius posted:is this war even happening anymore ? maybe. who knows?
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Jan 5, 2023 06:25
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most of the reason we hear about the Italians being poo poo garbage at WW2 is an over reliance on German sources Rommel was a dumb bitch and wouldn’t have gotten even half as far towards Egypt without Italian infantry doing most of the important work
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Jan 5, 2023 06:29
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I had to watch part of an episode of that SAS commando Netflix show and surprise it's reddit dog poo poo rear end
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Jan 5, 2023 06:31
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paul_soccer12 posted:I had to watch part of an episode of that SAS commando Netflix show and surprise it's reddit dog poo poo rear end you had to? sounds like a war crime
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Jan 5, 2023 06:38
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dieselfruit posted:everyone in this thread is a lib except me, the one true leftist Thanks to horseshoe theory you've circled around to become the strongest right wing authoritarian by default.
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Jan 5, 2023 07:20
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Lostconfused posted:This one is hard to track down, but it's an updated law about mandatory military service in Ukraine, because only the russians are reposting it as a "haha look at how bad it's getting over there" and a few specific Ukrainian news sites. Things are going so well they want to press into service anyone overseas they can track down. How long before the overseas consulate staff get their own "you're up, here's a pair of boots and a plane ticket".
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Jan 5, 2023 07:28
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Endman posted:most of the reason we hear about the Italians being poo poo garbage at WW2 is an over reliance on German sources Rommel's entire reputation rests on British propaganda drumming him up as a worthy opponent. The Americans latched onto this as well, though I think it was mostly because of a popular '50s movie. If you look at his actual record in North Africa, his two great victories involve surprising a heavily outnumbered British garrison force (Sonnenblume), and a scuffed offensive that the Brits heroically threw (Gazala). Apart from that, he accomplishes very little. Even when he surprised green American troops in Tunisia, he actually got his rear end beat by rear echelon artillery. Though tbf, that was a common fate for armoured offensives across the war. The Italians genuinely did not perform very well in WWII, but like a lot of things about that war it had less to do with racial soldiering ability, but more with a lack of industry. Also the fascists had militarized so early that they were sitting on a bunch of state-of-the-art '20s equipment and production lines, and couldn't adapt in time to hastily join WWII. When the Brits captured a whole Italian Army in Libya, it was because that army was mostly WWI-style infantry divisions. This was standard across Europe, except for the Brits, who had a relatively smaller army that they equipped with a whole suite of motorized equipment (Most of it was lost at Dunkirk and had to be replaced with American gear but that's a different story). In Libya, the British drove right along the coastal highway, smacked the few Italian armoured units around, and seized the ports. All the Italian infantry in the desert literally couldn't walk fast enough to recapture their supply lines, and elected to surrender instead of die of dehydration. Rommel escaped this fate by simply not having horse-bound infantry with him. Slim Jim Pickens has issued a correction as of 07:36 on Jan 5, 2023 |
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Jan 5, 2023 07:32
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:Rommel's entire reputation rests on British propaganda drumming him up as a worthy opponent. The Americans latched onto this as well, though I think it was mostly because of a popular '50s movie. why are you dragging a ukranian national hero through the mud?
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Jan 5, 2023 08:12
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as we have learned, mud is the natural habitat of the ukrainian
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Jan 5, 2023 08:14
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people often forget, rommel was the first to deploy tanks in the desert and in the mud, he was a tragic figure trapped between two worlds.
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Jan 5, 2023 08:15
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Rommel managed to weasel out of serving on the eastern front, which was kinda smart
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Jan 5, 2023 08:16
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In the end, Rommel was still probably an above average officer, it is just that he was boosted out of all proportion by the British press for pretty predictable reasons.
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Jan 5, 2023 08:28
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Nah, serving on the Eastern front was easy for generals. Guderian went, failed miserably, got fired (in 1941!!!), and later convinced the Americans that he invented armoured warfare
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Jan 5, 2023 08:28
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I'm acquaintances with two people who are literally/specifically named "Erwin Rommel [lastname]" it wasn't just his exploits in North Africa as exaggerated by the British, but also the fact that he was implicated in the July plot and offed himself, thereby giving people the handy-dandy excuse that he was a reluctant Nazi, or not even all much of a fascist at all, really
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Jan 5, 2023 08:58
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there are so many 40ish filipinos named rommel its insane lol
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Jan 5, 2023 09:23
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:btw Eva Bartlett talks to Donbas residents like daily and posts about it online for all to see i found another dude through her who ferries supplies into the Donbass for civilians from Russia. he just did a video where they are apparently interviewing people who were in that Mariupol theatre. haven't watched the whole thing tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKlgBw8mQhs
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Jan 5, 2023 10:04
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a Nazi so reluctant he was commander of Hitler’s bodyguard before the war
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Jan 5, 2023 10:04
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Endman posted:a Nazi so reluctant he was commander of Hitler’s bodyguard before the war (sitcom intro music) (Gets home, hangs up big woolen greatcoat, frisbee throws peaked cap with questionable imagery on hanger) "Honey you won't BELIEVE what my boss told me to do today"
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Jan 5, 2023 10:53
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Homeless Friend posted:there are so many 40ish filipinos named rommel its insane lol lol
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Jan 5, 2023 11:54
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Homeless Friend posted:there are so many 40ish filipinos named rommel its insane lol it's true
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Jan 5, 2023 11:57
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https://i.imgur.com/vkgMzjH.mp4
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Jan 5, 2023 12:18
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm acquaintances with two people who are literally/specifically named "Erwin Rommel [lastname]" I mean it's not as bad as naming your kid Douglas but why would anyone in PH specifically like that guy I guess they like tanks?
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Jan 5, 2023 13:53
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Isentropy posted:I mean it's not as bad as naming your kid Douglas but why would anyone in PH specifically like that guy as I alluded to, it's probably dads who were really into WW2 pop history in the 70s and 80s and thought it was a cool name
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Jan 5, 2023 13:59
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paul_soccer12 posted:The ukrane should surredner that’s right
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Jan 5, 2023 14:34
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Tankbuster posted:Reject Zizek, embrace Michael Kirkbride. Read the 36 sermons of Vivec and meditate on them. How soon until the US sends Numidiums to Ukraine?
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Jan 5, 2023 14:57
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evilmiera posted:How soon until the US sends Numidiums to Ukraine? 
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Jan 5, 2023 15:25
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italians were fascist like this, and germans are fascist like this 🙄
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Jan 5, 2023 16:07
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Bengali famine survivor explaining how Italian fascism is different from British fascism.
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Jan 5, 2023 16:14
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it's such a weird talking point because there's no loving way zizek doesn't know what italy was doing in the slav parts of their country they secured in ww1 lmao trieste and gorizia are to this day fash as all gently caress because fascists intentionally settled the biggest assholes they could there, to try and replace or drive away the slav majority, and that poo poo happened in the 20s. implying italian fascism wasn't expansionist from the start is just straight up false
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Jan 5, 2023 16:26
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1611026805867134978?s=20
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Jan 5, 2023 16:58
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Homeless Friend posted:there are so many 40ish filipinos named rommel its insane lol lol
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Jan 5, 2023 17:04
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https://twitter.com/terrelljstarr/status/1611025921762361346
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Jan 5, 2023 17:05
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slavic karens...different from the germanic ones.
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Jan 5, 2023 17:08
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russians are all karens and dont even get me fuckin started on the chuvash
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