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Seems like he's only done Hole in the Ground, which was a perfectly watchable movie about an irish changeling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiCSGZy4obM
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Evil Dead 2 isn't visceral about its gore. When Ash stabs his hand with a kitchen knife then cuts it off, it's gruesome but not visceral. But when Mia pulls her hand off when it's stuck under the car at the end of the film you see, in horrible graphic detail, of everything pulling apart and it's viscerally disgusting. Different disciplines of gross-out gore and the remake moved into territory I don't care for. It's not ridiculous and edges towards realism that I'm not big on.
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kiimo posted:Cut it. CUT IT! Oh yeah, I remember being disappointed by that fakeout. The remake itself was decent, definitely agree there's a clear demarcation in terms of gore and violence compared to the Raimi films but the remake was fine on its own merits. Is Evil Dead Rise connected to the 2013 remake at all aside from Necronomicon, Deadites, etc? Doesn't look like any of the cast are returning, and all the characters are new cannon fodder.
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clown shoes posted:Good to know you can use "Rise" in movie titles again. Evil Dead Rise unlocks the mystery behind the origin of Evil Dead. By the end of this movie you will understand so much more about how Evil Dead became both evil and dead, but please also stay tuned for the culminating chapter in the Evil Dead Origins Trilogy, Evil Dead Alive.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Oh yeah, I remember being disappointed by that fakeout. The remake itself was decent, definitely agree there's a clear demarcation in terms of gore and violence compared to the Raimi films but the remake was fine on its own merits. If it makes perfect sense as a sequel to any of the other Evil Dead movies, it’s not actually a true Evil Dead movie. If it is meant to be a sequel to the 2013 film it had better have flashbacks with different actors that directly contradict minor details.
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Jimbot posted:Evil Dead 2 isn't visceral about its gore. When Ash stabs his hand with a kitchen knife then cuts it off, it's gruesome but not visceral. But when Mia pulls her hand off when it's stuck under the car at the end of the film you see, in horrible graphic detail, of everything pulling apart and it's viscerally disgusting. Yeah, the that kind of torture-porn poo poo is really unnecessary, and it really doesn't feel all that different from the lovely, edge gross-out comedies from the late 90s~early 00's, like "quick, Jethro! This situation requires us to suck off this old man, while we cover ourselves in goat cum!" gently caress off, like.
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I mean I can see why they want to just movie into viscerally repulsive body horror. That's way easier than actually doing zany horror-comedy with gore that manages to be goopy and gross but still funny. Good luck with that body stuff in a world where Terrifier 2 just inspired a bunch of goreheads, dudes.
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I think my problem with this entire conversation is I feel like some of you just watched evil dead a couple times and think it’s just Bruce Campbell mugging around doing slapstick. There’s a whole lot of body horror in the series and lots of grisly scenes just limited by their effects. Also I don’t know what your last statement means at all bc terrifier 2 rocks and it shows that people are into nasty gore flicks again with insane special effects. There’s also room for evil dead and terrifer 2
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CelticPredator posted:I think my problem with this entire conversation is I feel like some of you just watched evil dead a couple times and think it’s just Bruce Campbell mugging around doing slapstick. There’s a whole lot of body horror in the series and lots of grisly scenes just limited by their effects. No, I've watched Evil Dead 1 and 2 many, many times, and the horror and gore are much different than what's in the remakes. There's a sense of fun along with the horror in the originals. I remember the Blank Check podcast talking about Evil Dead 2, and describing the fun they had while making it (in an auditorium), and how that permeated onto the screen. It's a horror franchise made with love (that, yes, eventually became a comedy series). It's horrific, but also fun. The original less so, but only due to a lack of budget. Evil Dead 2 is what Raimi really wanted the movie to be. The new movies just seem like gore for the sake of gore, with no sense of fun. It doesn't even seem like they're trying for the same tone. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jan 5, 2023 |
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There’s only one new movie that came out . And I just flat out disagree with you. It’s silly funny as hell and a complete blast. It just leans way more into the jet black humor. The guy getting destroyed for opening the book and being duct taped all the time is hilarious. As is when that one girl cuts off her arm and she stumbles in and the arm just goes plorp and Mia the deadite just cackles. That’s the good poo poo right there.
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I think the series should have been called Evil Read, because they read a book
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Snooze Cruise posted:I think the series should have been called Evil Read, because they read a book It's me in school with a book report due at 9am tomorrow read by dawn! read by dawn!
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thrawn527 posted:No, I've watched Evil Dead 1 and 2 many, many times, and the horror and gore are much different than what's in the remakes. There's a sense of fun along with the horror in the originals. I remember the Blank Check podcast talking about Evil Dead 2, and describing the fun they had while making it (in an auditorium), and how that permeated onto the screen. It's a horror franchise made with love (that, yes, eventually became a comedy series). It's horrific, but also fun. The original less so, but only due to a lack of budget. Evil Dead 2 is what Raimi really wanted the movie to be. Obviously this is a tolerance level difference, but this take seems really off to me. There genuinely are movies out there that are “gore for the sake of gore” and Evil Dead 2013 isn’t even in the same ballpark. ED2013 was pretty drat funny, but definitely the type of dark humor a horror fan would find amusing.
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Throughout all the movies and the tv show I don't know anything as viscerally cruel as Ash's sister getting raped by a tree and then possessed. And that's like the first real bit in the very first movie. In comparison every single bit in all other Evil Dead media has been less extreme. I don't see the new movie changing that.
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Megasabin posted:Obviously this is a tolerance level difference, but this take seems really off to me. There genuinely are movies out there that are “gore for the sake of gore” and Evil Dead 2013 isn’t even in the same ballpark. Maybe I need to just watch it again. It was just a gore thing for me, if memory serves. And my view on the new trailer. My apologies if I’m off.
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Mulva posted:Throughout all the movies and the tv show I don't know anything as viscerally cruel as Ash's sister getting raped by a tree and then possessed. And that's like the first real bit in the very first movie. In comparison every single bit in all other Evil Dead media has been less extreme. I don't see the new movie changing that. The tree thing happens in the remake, but with thorny vines and a dramatic score and it's way worse and visceral, and reads easily as a hosed up upsetting thing. Probably what he meant in the first place, a plant doing evil sexual vilionce is a lot, but, he could only make it in a way that was silly, so it seemed insincere and tasteless and gratuitous
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thrawn527 posted:Maybe I need to just watch it again. It was just a gore thing for me, if memory serves. And my view on the new trailer. My apologies if I’m off. One hundred percent normal, it's meant to be a pretty gross experience and some people just don't like that
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The Peccadillo posted:The tree thing happens in the remake, but with thorny vines and a dramatic score and it's way worse It's not. The original version is so much grimier. Hell, 2 in some ways makes it worse. Cheryl is raped, possessed, killed, and then written out of the narrative. Mia at least nominally gets to live.
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Wasn't that rapey tree one of the monsters in cabin in the woods? I swear in the betting pool there was "Angry Molesting Tree" or something written in one of the boxes.
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I haven’t watched Evil Dead 2 since the old dvd days and the big tin box came out. So maybe time to refresh. I watched it with the commentary a lot and Raimi and Campbell take the piss out of everything. It’s great!
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In Evil Dead 2 when a demon shows up it's time to fukin' DUKE. IT. OUT. Same with Drag Me to Hell. That's one of the best things about Raimi's style besides his crazy camera work. The 2013 remake had none of that zazz.
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crankybastard posted:In Evil Dead 2 when a demon shows up it's time to fukin' DUKE. IT. OUT. That's probably true, these ones that he produces but kind of keeps his hands still while making it don't have his weird sense of fun Probably smart! Made evil dead but nasty The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Jan 5, 2023 |
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Snooze Cruise posted:I think the series should have been called Evil Read, because they read a book true story: the original was almost called Book of the Dead but they changed it because they didn't want to scare young people away by having "book" in the title
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:true story: the original was almost called Book of the Dead but they changed it because they didn't want to scare young people away by having "book" in the title This is one of those claims that I had to fact check on the spot (no offense). Sure enought, in Bruce Campbell's memoir If Chins Could Kill: Bruce Campbell posted:Irvin Shapiro had lived a full life before we ever met him. As a young man in the 1920s, he handled the publicity for Battleship Potemkin by filmmaker Sergei Eisenstein. Seeing an opportunity to sell foreign films to the U.S., Irvin became one of the founders of the Cannes Film Market. He was also one of the first entrepreneurs to buy television rights to films and was involved with the company Screen Gems. Irvin often enjoyed pointing out a painting by Picasso, hanging on his apartment wall, that he had traded the young painter for a bottle of wine. Irvin had been around. On December 10, 1981, we screened our film for this living legend. As the lights came up in the screening room, Irvin cracked a smile. "It ain't Gone with the Wind, but I think we can make some money with it. Of course, we're gonna have to change the title. If you call it Book of the Dead, people are gonna think they have to read for ninety minutes. I think we can do better." 
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Eh. I don't know. On paper it seems fine, but I didn't really chuckle or anything in the trailer. Feels like a less charming What We Do in the Shadows...
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Samovar posted:Potentially amusing, but also potentially annoying. The lighting alone is Rob Zombie Munsters bad.
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Oh my God I didn't know anything about this except for Nicholas Hoult so the reveal made me scream in joy
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happyhippy posted:The lighting alone is Rob Zombie Munsters bad. The lighting was the only good thing about Rob Zombie's Munsters. Put colorful gels on everything imo. Samovar posted:Potentially amusing, but also potentially annoying. That's my assessment as well. Unless it's savaged for being particularly unfunny I'll see it because I want more horror comedy in my life.
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precision posted:Oh my God I could tell from the preview image what you're talking about, but yeah, still a great reveal.
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CelticPredator posted:I think my problem with this entire conversation is I feel like some of you just watched evil dead a couple times and think it’s just Bruce Campbell mugging around doing slapstick. I literally watch Evil Dead 2 every year so put this condescending attitude in the trash, please. You're not going to somehow convince me that Evil Dead 2 is the same type of film as Evil Dead 2013; even the people I know who like it freely admit "it's different but good" and it isn't the budget that gives Evil Dead 2 its very unique tone. I've already given an example of what happens to hillbilly Jake - which didn't involve Campbell mugging at all - and I could probably come up with a few more, but you're going to sit here and try to justify Evil Dead's new direction as somehow being hidden in the original movies and tv series that we all somehow didn't notice. You can just say you like the new direction, dude. We don't care.
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thrawn527 posted:I could tell from the preview image what you're talking about, but yeah, still a great reveal. It's one of those reveals that I wish they had saved for the actual movie instead of spoiled in the trailer.
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Spoilers for the reveal in that trailer: Honestly I'm a bit over the Nic Cage Renaissance. Not that I don't want him in movies, but the novelty of his resurgence has worn off.
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GrandpaPants posted:It's one of those reveals that I wish they had saved for the actual movie instead of spoiled in the trailer. On the one hand, I agree. But it's going to be one of the main selling points for the movie, so they can't not put it in the trailer.
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GrandpaPants posted:It's one of those reveals that I wish they had saved for the actual movie instead of spoiled in the trailer. They have been hyping up "Nicolas Cage is playing Dracula!" ever since this movie was announced.
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BonoMan posted:Spoilers for the reveal in that trailer: It's the same sort of arc with Bill Murray where everyone observes Murray is fun and in things people like and it just leads to the corniness of Zombieland where the "joke" is just Hey it's Bill Murray.
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Evil dead 1 is closer to ed13 than ed2. Ed1 is mean as gently caress
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