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Jobert posted:Are some people not voting? First time watching live so not sure if that's normal you can vote at the end - they will call everyone a second time if they missed their first vote
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smoobles posted:It's still funny after 7 times ahahaha It is still funny after 8 times too. Lawl.
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How long until the majority knifes him for some other loser? Surely some of these holdout freaks will vote for someone else just to humiliate McCarthy at this point? What else do they have but affect and aesthetics?
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"If I lose I'll learn absolutely nothing from it"
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surely repeating the exact same actions over and over again and expecting a different result is the smart play here It's a die roll! Just gotta reload the save enough times and you'll make the skill check!
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Capital-L "Legitimacy" is a myth - there can be no invention of men that any individual is morally obligated to obey. Lowercase-l "legitimacy" is grounded in popular acceprance. That popular acceptance of a regime's legitimacy is most directly impacted by how functional that government is - the degree to which it's existance improves the lives of the voting population. A party emerged willing to obstruct the opposition any time they have control, and blame that opposition for every (deliberately exaspirated) problem. This is just Patriot's footbaw, yeah? Cut-throat, just shy of total war, designed (in conjunction with ongoing, evolving media scrimmages) to empower The Party. The ideology of the party cemented around "government that governs least governs best", and broader dysfunctions emerge. Ostensibly motivated by loyalty to Party and Country, their moves consistently, lawfully, increase wealth disparity and entrench existing power dynamics. Foreign entities, interested in ending "The American Century", motivated instead by the desire to see that nations hegemony fail, infiltrates the party and joins the ongoing scrimmage over the Overton Window. That minority takes over party leadership. A collection of incriminating kompromat may have been a factor. Now we're here, and the House is unable to convene. Yeah, im lollin' at the GOP fracturing and stalling out, and nothing good will come of this congress convening, but I keep hearing the expression "win, then fight" in the back of my head. The problem is and has always been bad-faith actors.
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Whose the alternative if not McCarthy? Seems like unless the rest of the GOP caves to the HFC and elects an absolute nut job (even beyond McCarthy) the next in line is doomed to the same fate.
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Edward Mass posted:That's a relief - I thought she was voting for Kevin Hearn, keyboardist for Barenaked Ladies. "How long have these ballots been going on?" It's beeeeeeeeeeeen..
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Popete posted:Whose the alternative if not McCarthy? Seems like unless the rest of the GOP caves to the HFC and elects an absolute nut job (even beyond McCarthy) the next in line is doomed to the same fate. Scalise, probably.
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All I want to know is have they read the Constitution out loud on the floor yet? That's something long overdue and will fix the problems with this nation right away! It's called "GOVERNMENT," liberals! I thought that was the first thing they were going to do! Do they not want to read the Constitution out loud anymore? What will happen to America if they don't read it out loud?!?
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Popete posted:Whose the alternative if not McCarthy? Seems like unless the rest of the GOP caves to the HFC and elects an absolute nut job (even beyond McCarthy) the next in line is doomed to the same fate. It might be Steve Scalise who has the whole decorum bot support after he got shot but is secretly close to all the HFC psychos.
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Popete posted:Whose the alternative if not McCarthy? Seems like unless the rest of the GOP caves to the HFC and elects an absolute nut job (even beyond McCarthy) the next in line is doomed to the same fate. Steve Scalise, probably with the new concessions McCarthy made, might make it. Or it's possible the HFC holds out until literally everything they want is in the new rules since it's not like the other 200 Republicans have any real convictions or backbone.
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Edward Mass posted:That's a relief - I thought she was voting for Kevin Hearn, keyboardist for Barenaked Ladies. That would be a good pick, but I don't think a Canadian can serve this position.
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LionYeti posted:It might be Steve Scalise who has the whole decorum bot support after he got shot but is secretly close to all the HFC psychos. He doesn’t have the balls.
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In fairness, he doesn't have much choice but to put on this sort of bravado. This is a game of chicken. If he admits there's even the slightest chance that he might back down, that just tells the HFC that their scheme is working and that they should keep going. Until he gives up, every comment he gives to the press is gonna be corncobbed as hell. Popete posted:Whose the alternative if not McCarthy? Seems like unless the rest of the GOP caves to the HFC and elects an absolute nut job (even beyond McCarthy) the next in line is doomed to the same fate. At least a few of the holdouts probably just want McCarthy's head mounted on their wall as a trophy, and would probably be much more cooperative once they've got that.
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I thought Scalise was shot directly in his anus
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C'mon, this isn't fun any more. Let the nutjob win so they can instantly step down for Trump.
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happyhippy posted:C'mon, this isn't fun any more. I'm... 90% sure it doesn't work that way.
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So does McCarthy resign after all this goes down and he inevitably loses or does staying just play into his humiliation fetish?
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I’m surprised more people aren’t making pointless floor speeches as part of a nomination of a random person.
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Lazy isn't there someone you forgot to ask? Meme: Kevins: I consent! Anti-Kevins: I consent! Physicists: *kaboom*
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Xombie posted:"If I lose I'll learn absolutely nothing from it" You lose some, you lose some more.
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I don't get why Spartz is waiting until the very end to vote present I know she has a Senate primary coming up but it's a weird tactic since literally no one cares about this in the primary (probably)
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Don’t understand how they “made concessions” to the Not Kevin crew but didn’t pull away any votes. Someone’s not good at negotiating.
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Kev: "I want to see what you write" News: "Webster's defines pyrrhic victory as...."
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And that's why they'll cave. Not a loving one of them can actually articulate why they want McCarthy so badly or even their opposition to the HFC's demands.
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smackfu posted:Don’t understand how they “made concessions” to the Not Kevin crew but didn’t pull away any votes. Someone’s not good at negotiating. The Not Kevin crew can't outright say not Kevin, so they put up absurd demands. Then it's embarrassing for everyone because Kmac accepts and they still need to vote no.
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Oh jesus, they're plowing directly into number nine
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VOTE NINE BEGINS
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You can just... not vote. Let the reins of power slip, let the dems win this one. Just... don't vote.
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Its because bad faith actors are exploiting the fact that conservatives (obstructionists) have been indistinguishable from accelerationists for maybe a decade or more (it wasn't really the case in the Bush years...).
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Morrow posted:The Not Kevin crew can't outright say not Kevin, so they put up absurd demands. Then it's embarrassing for everyone because Kmac accepts and they still need to vote no. They've said they're never voting for Kevin plenty of times. I can't remember who it was who told a reporter they can stop asking because it'll always be no. The concessions poo poo is just a ratchet. Every concession he gives up will be expected of the next up probably.
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9 - Let chaos reign!
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Please do the nuclear option. Make the vote for a plurality. Make the funniest possible option happen.
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smackfu posted:Don’t understand how they “made concessions” to the Not Kevin crew but didn’t pull away any votes. Someone’s not good at negotiating. Can you really call this a negotiation? One side keeps adding ridiculous demands with no actual intention to ever change their mind and one side is desperately caves in to everything. At this point they could demand Trumps face to replace everyone on mount Rushmore and Kevin would happily promise it to them. Afterwards they demand ice cream and an extra slice of pie.
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This one's gonna do it. I can feel it guys.
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cr0y posted:This one's gonna do it. I can feel it guys. I think the democrats are ground down now. Everyone of them will switch to Donalds now.
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