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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

The promos looked so good too.

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thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

cant cook creole bream posted:

Is anyone watching the National Treasure series? It's really stupid in a similar way the movies are, but it has a great musical score.
I do think it was made to annoy boomers. They only talk about Nic Cage's character sometimes and focus on a group of New York millennials, where the main character is literally an illegal immigrant from Mexico.
I want to read some parental advisory forums or something like this about this series.

I haven't watched it yet, but I read Justin Bartha showed up last week or something, and he referenced Nic Cage's character. And that he was the one to come up with the idea to do so, that it wasn't scripted. Which just says to me that they have zero interest in referencing Ben Gates. Which either means they don't care to continue the series beyond the show, or want to keep things open for the next movie.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

feedmyleg posted:

It's pretty crazy how much the live-action Cowboy Bebop looks like a bad fan film. I can't remember seeing something that looked so cheap since the 90s.

They don't call it Cowboy Beflop for nothing.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Hmm, questions about shows I'm actually watching for once :)

Azhais posted:

How's Three Pines? Dad mentioned he's watching it and looks like it could be interesting. And I do like Molina

Watching it because of my mom, and it's decent if you like mystery stories. It's like a TV movie series since each mystery (1 book) is covered in 2 episodes. The pacing is a little fast but Molina's good and the atmosphere is solid. I do think it's a little weird that a central point of the books, from what my mom's been telling me, is the townspeople and their quirks. But the show's moving a little fast and not really building up the town as much as it probably should.


NikkolasKing posted:

Is Godfather of Harlem any good?

My GF loves Vincent D'Onofrio and I was curious what he's been in lately/is currently in. Dunno if he even has a major part in this show but it at least sounded interesting.

I liked it well enough, although I only watched the first season so far. It's good if you like the concept and like mob stories with political side stories. It's kind of a nice ensemble show. D'Onofrio is a pretty big part of it, he's the major antagonist. Only thing that I'd really knock it for is...I guess I'd call it Forrest Gump syndrome. They like getting cute with historical intersections. I remember most of them being fine, and I know that it is a period piece, but it's occasionally a little much.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Escobarbarian posted:

Finally started watching The Crown s5 and I forgot how much this show is just pro-Charles propaganda

It really, really, REALLY came to the fore this season, it was kind of nuts. They had the odd moment where I thought they were going to show how detached from reality or selfish he was but then they'd straight up just have other characters say,"He's such a remarkable man!" or "What amazing strength of character he has!" and then the season just kind of.... ended.

I don't think the show has ever really hit those heights it did during the Claire Foy/Matt Smith seasons, unfortunately. It still has its moments, but the closer it gets to parts of history I actually lived through the more I can see the seams.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


I did like the bit in this week's Willow where it turns out that Eric really did know Elora's real (fake) name.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

When Harry and Megan Markle signed their Netflix deal a few years ago, it reportedly included an agreement with how (un) critical The Crown could get as it depicted events closer to the present. Also LOL that Netflix paid them $100 million.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed

I AM GRANDO posted:

Like I have no idea if David is inserting Aubrey Plaza into his memories, if he was actually friends with her and somehow ended up on the same psych ward, or if he was imagining her on the psych ward as well and actually killed her way earlier in different circumstances.

That bit will be explained later on, but the show remains weird, and gets a lot weirder.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Season 1 of Legion really was absolutely incredible. The follow-up seasons never quite captured that same quality, though they had their moments.

Aubrey Plaza is absolutely incredible in it.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

FBI
FBI: International
FBI: Most Wanted
The Rookie: Feds

Let's just keep making more FBI shows

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

muscles like this! posted:

I did like the bit in this week's Willow where it turns out that Eric really did know Elora's real (fake) name.
I missed last week's episode and caught up tonight.

Willow is a show that hasn't compelled me to rabidly seek it out every week but drat if it doesn't suck me in when I do drag my rear end to it.

After tonight's episode, I'm rabid for the finale.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
SOMEWHERE IN THE C-SUITES.

Underling: Sir, it seems the people don't enjoy cop dramas anymore. There's this twitter word... "copaganda"... that's been trending. What do we do?

[The executive thinks for a moment. Then he walks up to smart board, pulls out a sharpie and writes three simple letters.]


[From nowhere, the 2001: A Space Odyssey soundtrack begins to play.]

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Mu Zeta posted:

FBI
FBI: International
FBI: Most Wanted
The Rookie: Feds

Let's just keep making more FBI shows

Having grown up in the 2000s, isn't this shat they did with CSI and NCIS?

I guess not much has changed.

Parakeet vs. Phone posted:

Hmm, questions about shows I'm actually watching for once :)

Watching it because of my mom, and it's decent if you like mystery stories. It's like a TV movie series since each mystery (1 book) is covered in 2 episodes. The pacing is a little fast but Molina's good and the atmosphere is solid. I do think it's a little weird that a central point of the books, from what my mom's been telling me, is the townspeople and their quirks. But the show's moving a little fast and not really building up the town as much as it probably should.

I liked it well enough, although I only watched the first season so far. It's good if you like the concept and like mob stories with political side stories. It's kind of a nice ensemble show. D'Onofrio is a pretty big part of it, he's the major antagonist. Only thing that I'd really knock it for is...I guess I'd call it Forrest Gump syndrome. They like getting cute with historical intersections. I remember most of them being fine, and I know that it is a period piece, but it's occasionally a little much.

I will check it out then, thanks.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed

Jerusalem posted:

Season 1 of Legion really was absolutely incredible. The follow-up seasons never quite captured that same quality, though they had their moments.

Most people probably agree with you, but I much prefer seasons 2 and 3.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Oasx posted:

Most people probably agree with you, but I much prefer seasons 2 and 3.

Yeah same. The first season has an excellent pilot though.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Mu Zeta posted:

FBI
FBI: International
FBI: Most Wanted
The Rookie: Feds

Let's just keep making more FBI shows

I mean, these are all Dick Wolf, right? You can't be surprised the man on the verge of 80 is trying to get his and cash out with another franchise as Law and Order half-revives, half-wanes

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Oasx posted:

Most people probably agree with you, but I much prefer seasons 2 and 3.

I had issues with season 2 but for me the unforgivable sin that retroactively made the rest of the season worse was choosing to ally with the Shadow King in order to stop David, which was just utter bullshit. Yes David had done hosed up things and needed to be called to account for them, but releasing the rapist mass murderer dictator in order to do so was so unbelievably stupid that at first I assumed he'd somehow snuck into their minds and taken them over.

Season 3 struggles to recover from that, and while it's better, and includes some amazing visual stuff (I'm a big fan of how they showcase the Shadow King moving as a series of photographs through frozen time) it felt like the show was on its last legs and trying desperately to crawl over the finish line. I also didn't like that the ending is essentially what David was aiming to do at the start and which Syd had warned him was simply seeking to avoid responsibility, but it's treated like the good and right thing to have done. Season 3 does have the Battle Rap though, so you know.... swings and roundabouts!

Really though the biggest problem with Seasons 2 and 3 is far less Aubrey Plaza v:shobon:v

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Season 2 of Legion is utter poo poo and when even me the most pretentious person in this subforum thinks you’re being unbearably pretentious you know something is up

3 was mostly cool. But the idea that either of them are better than 1 honestly got me :eyepop:

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I don't much like season one either :ssh:

The second season is more visually appealing to me tbh. By the end of the first season I was very tired of the show's two or three sets, the second season has those giant green hands and more of those cool physic dance battles (easily the best thing about the first season), so I just find it more pleasurable.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

thrawn527 posted:

I haven't watched it yet, but I read Justin Bartha showed up last week or something, and he referenced Nic Cage's character. And that he was the one to come up with the idea to do so, that it wasn't scripted. Which just says to me that they have zero interest in referencing Ben Gates. Which either means they don't care to continue the series beyond the show, or want to keep things open for the next movie.

I think it's more than likely the later.
From the first episode, the show keeps referencing that crazy heist of the declaration of independence. And the FBI agents are the same ones from the first movie who couldn't stop that. (That's also how the protagonist gets to meet that guy.) It's very much not a spin-off universe. It feels weird if the references to Ben Gates where unscripted, because that was like 25% of the episode. And he's not the only one who knows about him. They even reference his mother. (Helen Mirren).
During the episode he says something like "We've got something cooking, but we're not ready to talk about it."

Looking it up, it seems like they are indeed planning to make a third movie at some point. https://screenrant.com/national-treasure-3-updates-justin-bartha/


But I do kind of like this stupid series. There's an ancient Incan puzzle box, which you can only attempt to unlock if you direct it to true north. They casually solve that on a moving public bus.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Jan 5, 2023

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
New Nicolas Winding Refn series, Copenhagen Cowboy, dropped on Netflix today. First episode is extremely NWR. Wasn’t sold on it until some really great sequences near the end.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Oh boy people are talking about Legion! From the guy who would write essays after each episode, I'll tell you this:

Season 1 is a decent story with one of the best scenes ever made in television history (Bolero, you'll know it when you hear it.)
Season 2 is just hosed. It's definitely more visually appealing than season 1 but is senselessly weird for the sake of weird and ended on one of the sourest notes I've ever seen a season end on.
Season 3 is wild, has one really phenomenally good episode about alternate dimensions, gets even more visually appealing, and as mentioned before, limps over the finish line like a deer hit by a car. Final episode: The bad guy becomes the good guy by showing his past self the bad stuff he did and he goes "oh you're right I am bad" and becomes good. And then the entire timeline gets reset. It's like a 6 year old wrote it.

Individually, the episodes are really entertaining! The problems arise between seasons, when it feels like one set of writers and producers handed the show off to another set of writers and producers with only the vaguest of ideas of where the plot was supposed to go. This ends with an overall poorly written plot held up purely by the really fun bits. Frame your expectations accordingly and it's well worth your time.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Put me in the "Season 1 of Legion was perfect, 2 and 3 had enjoyable moments but I personally think it got a little TOO weird" camp.

Though Season 2 had by far one of my favorite moments of the series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frf0HepcB7w

Edit - It's funny, I always imagined that scene was heavily inspired by the Lucifer vs. Morphaeus fight in the Sandman comic, and now that scene's been filmed! What a great time to be alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOwaeAEIw0

Medullah fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Jan 5, 2023

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Season 2 was messy but it also had the most David Negahban, who is incredible and needs to get bigger roles.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



So this is a Chat thread, why not babble.

Watching Criminal Intent has reawakened my interest in serial killers, something I dropped a long, long time ago. I guess a fair number of people go through this macabre phase where you look into the big names of serial killers. Mine was always Bundy because he's the one my grandma told me abut growing up. But while trying to find reliable sources to sate my rediscovered interest - including having to get this one audiobook on him only available in the UK for some strange reason -
it kinda hit me how popular true crime stuff was. At first I wanted to look up this podcast I vaguely remembered hearing about that covered him. I eventually found it was Last Podcast on the Left but I had to wade through so much crap, just like I had to wade through so much sensationalist trash to find real good books on him.

Anyway, popular criminals seems divided between mobsters and serial killers and that intrigued me. They're basically the total opposite of each other. Speaking just of generalities here, the "appeal" of mafia stuff is glitz and glamor masking ugliness. Mobsters pursue pretty rational, understandable goals, like money or loyalty to "the family." Serial killers meanwhile are loners (even if they are sociable) and their pursuits are anything but rational. I think they're fascinating because of just how incomprehensible they are to most people.

So I wonder if there are distinct segments in true crime fans? If there are any long standing true crime afficionados with insight on this, I'd appreciate it.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Jerusalem posted:

Season 1 of Legion really was absolutely incredible. The follow-up seasons never quite captured that same quality, though they had their moments.

Aubrey Plaza is absolutely incredible in it.

I just finished the first season and the first episode of season 2. I'm sorry that it got slightly more linear as the first season went on, but overall it's the best show having anything to do with comic stuff I've ever seen. The musical numbers especially are wonderful.

Aubrey Plaza has extremely weird charisma, but she definitely has a lot of it. She's the MVP for season one for me and I hope for more stuff like her silhouetted dance through all the sets near the end of the season. Her face superimposed over the pie is the most Lynchian thing not by David Lynch that I've ever seen, and not because it's cherry pie.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

NikkolasKing posted:

So this is a Chat thread, why not babble.

Watching Criminal Intent has reawakened my interest in serial killers, something I dropped a long, long time ago. I guess a fair number of people go through this macabre phase where you look into the big names of serial killers. Mine was always Bundy because he's the one my grandma told me abut growing up. But while trying to find reliable sources to sate my rediscovered interest - including having to get this one audiobook on him only available in the UK for some strange reason -
it kinda hit me how popular true crime stuff was. At first I wanted to look up this podcast I vaguely remembered hearing about that covered him. I eventually found it was Last Podcast on the Left but I had to wade through so much crap, just like I had to wade through so much sensationalist trash to find real good books on him.

Anyway, popular criminals seems divided between mobsters and serial killers and that intrigued me. They're basically the total opposite of each other. Speaking just of generalities here, the "appeal" of mafia stuff is glitz and glamor masking ugliness. Mobsters pursue pretty rational, understandable goals, like money or loyalty to "the family." Serial killers meanwhile are loners (even if they are sociable) and their pursuits are anything but rational. I think they're fascinating because of just how incomprehensible they are to most people.

So I wonder if there are distinct segments in true crime fans? If there are any long standing true crime afficionados with insight on this, I'd appreciate it.

I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but Peter Vronsky's book is often described as authoritative for the non-specialist by people who study serial killers:

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Kille...ps%2C157&sr=8-1

At least, that's my memory of it from when I was reading stuff like that. He gets into larger theoretical questions of what qualities serial killers have in common or of the pathology of people like Bundy. There's also stuff you probably read long ago, like Anne Rule's The Stranger Beside Me.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
According to a local station The Curse (the Nathan Fieder/Safdie brothers/Emma Stone thing) recently wrapped filming in New Mexico. It’d been so long since we’d heard anything and I was getting antsy, so hooray!

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Binge on release or die: this is a bummer to me because many of the shows I watch are already years and years old and I watch them at whatever pace I want. I'm still watching "The Leftovers" and haven't watched a newtome episode since early last year. Plenty of other show from 2022 I'll only get to this year or the next too.

what's the streaming exclusive with the longest legs on it, or most seasons rather. Seems like this decision-making model inherently difficult for shows to get that many seasons? Even the most popular shows are naturally going to wobble lower over time as number of fans who just got "behind" or otherwise stopped keeping up with current releases will grow the more fans there are, plus maybe people tuning in for the new thing without having seen all the rest, let alone all in one place. when GoT was big and we'd go to someone's house to watch it and make a little gathering out of it, we had people who jumped in with the latest seasons and eps with some of them going back and catching up at their own paces.

isaboo
Nov 11, 2002

Muay Buok
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The Rig premieres tonight on Prime. Looks like it could be spooky, and I'll give it a shot just because it stars Emily Hampshire. I hope she channels some Jennifer Goines. Every show should have some Jennifer Goines, imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9QmNXPr-jo



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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Escobarbarian posted:

According to a local station The Curse (the Nathan Fieder/Safdie brothers/Emma Stone thing) recently wrapped filming in New Mexico. It’d been so long since we’d heard anything and I was getting antsy, so hooray!

The idea of Nathan Fielder and the Safdies collaborating on something... oh man, I can only imagine how anxiety-inducing that will be.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Chairman Capone posted:

The idea of Nathan Fielder and the Safdies collaborating on something... oh man, I can only imagine how anxiety-inducing that will be.

hahah this sounds amazing.

edit: I was trying to copy the dumb synopsis from that website but it won't let me copy/paste.

BonoMan fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jan 5, 2023

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

I have like 6 months of free Starz. Is Black Sails any good? Kind of seems up my alley.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

It’s insanely good

HOLY FUCK
Mar 31, 2007

Cats are terrifying, everyone knows that! 'Cause they're witches! And they've got knives in their feet!


Niwrad posted:

I have like 6 months of free Starz. Is Black Sails any good? Kind of seems up my alley.

i’m almost finished with it and i’ve been loving it. i think the action sequences are especially good, which is something i’m normally kind of ambivalent to.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Some of the best practical stunt work I've ever seen on TV. the carriage chase scene in s4 was incredible

Black Sails is cool because while a lot of the stuff is historically true, quite a lot in fact, it also serves as a prequel to Treasure Island, but it works seamlessly (probably because the poo poo that happened during the golden age of piracy was bugfuck insane and sounds like its fictional itself)

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Black Sails was really cool, but I think I could do without the keel hauling scene.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LmO6rmDW08

Here's your first look at Nic Cage's Dracula

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

quote:

AMC has already shot the entire second season of the Michael B. Jordan executive produced legal drama series “61st Street,” but now the network has scrapped any plans to air the new run in an effort to cut costs across the company.

AMC announced last month in an SEC filing that it would take tax write-downs of up to $475 million, which included $400 million for “strategic programming assessments” and $75 million for “organizational restructuring costs”.

The savings on programming include the scrapping of the Courtney B. Vance-led “61st Street” and the series adaptation of Adrienne Celt’s novel “Invitation to a Bonfire”. The latter had filmed four of the planned six episodes of its run before AMC decided to cancel it.

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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Youch. Guessing they'll do Pantheon next.

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