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Honestly the HFC probably prefers Jeffries because they can at least argue that they "need to fix things." They ran on changing the culture in Washington and now they are the culture in Washington. They know that they need to keep the frenzy going to survive but that doesn't square the circle when it comes to a functioning government. They are a cudgel and know they need someone to keep swinging at. Or they actually believe the poo poo they're advocating in which case just lol.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:https://twitter.com/lruskin/status/1611089001049640960?s=46&t=tssO1AwKr8_ohGkTbkSbD Whoever the candidate would be, would receive daily motions from the nutjob caucus to nominate a new speaker.
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Jaxyon posted:LOL that she thinks there's going to be serious legislating done. There is a chance that she's just doing the "Hey, we're willing to reach out and come to an agreement with some Republicans, they're the ones not wanting to work with us" for the people who demand bi-partisanship from their elected officials.
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Jaxyon posted:LOL that she thinks there's going to be serious legislating done. Yeah this week is the most productive the House will be for the next two years.
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Losing 10 elections in 2 days is a lot, even by Republican standards
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StumblyWumbly posted:The HFC must know where some bodies are buried to still be in the party. There's the argument that they give the GOP a majority but... do they? They can't even choose a speaker, how are they going to get anything done? I used to think a republican could step up and get votes from the dems, but at this point I think any repubs who want to get anything done (a minority but they exist) should just make a deal and vote for Jeffries until the HFC is booted. The set of people who would vote for HFC members have become a core constituency of the GOP, and there's a lot of them. I'm including people who are ideologically aligned with the HFC but don't actually vote for an HFC congressperson because there isn't one in their district. The GOP is probably afraid to piss off this large group of people by jettisoning the HFC.
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nelson posted:Hypothetically speaking, what kind of power would a minority party Speaker have? Speaker Jeffries would have nothing but debt ceilings and maybe budgets pass. However there would also be no investigations into Hunter Biden's laptop. So it would essentially be the best possible case given who got elected by our fellow idiot citizens.
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Meatball posted:Whoever the candidate would be, would receive daily motions from the nutjob caucus to nominate a new speaker. Only Kevin agreed to have that dumb rule, other speakers would probably have to accept something weaker than Pelosi's "Only the party leaders can motion to remove", but it definitely wouldn't be any one rep
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Bringing a baby to these things is just straight up cruel for everybody involved, especially the baby
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My understanding is even in a crazytown result like Jeffries winning because too many GOP members are out to funerals or whatever the result won't stick because the house can pick a new speaker at any time. So once the missing members are back in DC they'll just vote again. Is that right?
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Youremother posted:Bringing a baby to these things is just straight up cruel for everybody involved, especially the baby I... uh... I think that's McCarthy. Wait, did someone ACTUALLY bring a baby to this? gently caress it, vote for the baby.
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Where is the Goku option??
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Randalor posted:I... uh... I think that's McCarthy. There are definitely multiple children in the chambers
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The Onion can't keep up. https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1611073282127585301?s=20&t=YUPrc5ff0iJn2viLBzbNDA
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:My understanding is even in a crazytown result like Jeffries winning because too many GOP members are out to funerals or whatever the result won't stick because the house can pick a new speaker at any time. So once the missing members are back in DC they'll just vote again. they would probably vote to adjourn if that was remotely likely
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Clapping for the representatives voting for themselves is literally reddit "and everybody clapped" poo poo
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Robviously posted:Honestly the HFC probably prefers Jeffries because they can at least argue that they "need to fix things." They ran on changing the culture in Washington and now they are the culture in Washington. They know that they need to keep the frenzy going to survive but that doesn't square the circle when it comes to a functioning government. They are a cudgel and know they need someone to keep swinging at. Or they actually believe the poo poo they're advocating in which case just lol. Yeah, I think many of them have probably spent almost as much time fulminating against "RINOs," "the swamp," and the "uni-party" than they have against Democrats, really. This is the fight they want--it's them against the swamp, in their minds (or at least in their rhetoric).
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:My understanding is even in a crazytown result like Jeffries winning because too many GOP members are out to funerals or whatever the result won't stick because the house can pick a new speaker at any time. So once the missing members are back in DC they'll just vote again. If the rules are set that the house can pick a new speaker at any time, sure. The rules have to be approved with each Congress though, which generally happens right after the speaker is chosen. The democrats probably wouldn't accept an outcome where Jeffries gets elected and the rules don't protect him from exactly that. There would definitely be a minimum number of members needed for that in those rules.
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I hope America is ready to witness a very competent and sane GOP lead house get stuff done!
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smoobles posted:Losing 10 elections in 2 days is a lot, even by Republican standards Most since the civil war, nice
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Randalor posted:There is a chance that she's just doing the "Hey, we're willing to reach out and come to an agreement with some Republicans, they're the ones not wanting to work with us" for the people who demand bi-partisanship from their elected officials. I’m assuming it’s this, given that she’s a) a freshman rep in a flipped district and b) repping Alaska, who’s politicians tend to be a little more independent in their own ways
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I would love to see some interviews with republicans who retired from the house in the last few years about their current feelings about not having to deal with this poo poo. On the other hand, idk how you transcribe 4 minutes of someone belly laughing into the receiver.
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Both houses of the Alaska legislature have majority coalitions where some Republicans joined with all the Democrats, it makes sense.
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interesting footnote to all of this: https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1611117711911698432?s=20&t=j3FxrEiRsYJ91t10hyt2cA
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I would love to see some interviews with republicans who retired from the house in the last few years about their current feelings about not having to deal with this poo poo. On the other hand, idk how you transcribe 4 minutes of someone belly laughing into the receiver. "When we reached out to the former representatives, they all just sent us back a picture of them laughing while drinking."
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I would love to see some interviews with republicans who retired from the house in the last few years about their current feelings about not having to deal with this poo poo. On the other hand, idk how you transcribe 4 minutes of someone belly laughing into the receiver. Those same republicans set the stage and groundwork for this shitshow of America. They’re probably all happy.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I would love to see some interviews with republicans who retired from the house in the last few years about their current feelings about not having to deal with this poo poo. On the other hand, idk how you transcribe 4 minutes of someone belly laughing into the receiver. 
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So 11 votes in 6 hours. Thats 44 per day they could have. 2 years until the next congress. So you could have 16060 votes in the mean time.
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Piell posted:https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1611125017533710339 The only way they actually get a deal in writing with the 5 core members of team insanity is if they've got 10 Republicans swearing to god that they'll fall on their swords, vote present, and let Jeffries be Speaker. And then Team Insanity will still vote no anyway, because nothing could be better for their batshit narrative than RINOs giving the House to the Democrats just to spite REAL MERICA.
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happyhippy posted:So 11 votes in 6 hours. Let’s loving goooooo!!!!
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Same drat totals. Will they adjourn and try to solidify that possible deal?
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Kammat posted:Same drat totals. Will they adjourn and try to solidify that possible deal? https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1611131545657696259?s=20 I'm having a hard time seeing a way out of this, aside from numbers-gaming/enough Reps don't vote or vote present to hand it to Jeffries out of spite. It's absurd but so is everything else about this.
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lmao so he's giving up the kitchen sink for a deal that doesn't even get him a majority?
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McCarthy has no path to speaker and he will be the last person in Washington to realize this
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Feels Villeneuve posted:lmao so he's giving up the kitchen sink for a deal that doesn't even get him a majority? Like, he already gave up the kitchen sink. I have no idea what's even left to offer.
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McCarthy should send enough of his votes home such that the HFC crazies have to decide between a republican speaker or a democratic one.
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