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Honestly, letting the hostage takers skip the line and become chairperson seems like the most likely thing to cause these rules to fail. All the concessions that bite the loyal members just seem to increase the comedy situation where McCarthy wins the vote and then we're back to a deadlock on passing the rules. At least Keven's new mandated collar and chain in place of a neck tie will look snazzy.
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So, what stops a random dem Congressperson to say "Okay Kevin, you're elected now. Let's have a do over?"
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coelomate posted:Could be a fun head fake in the prisoner's dilemna, could be true, I will have fun either way I do hope that Rosendale and Crane are on the phone making sure that all of their family members are where they're supposed to be right now.
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cant cook creole bream posted:So, what stops a random dem Congressperson to say "Okay Kevin, you're elected now. Let's have a do over?" Only members of the majority can yell at their dog.
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cant cook creole bream posted:So, what stops a random dem Congressperson to say "Okay Kevin, you're elected now. Let's have a do over?" If they allow all members to do it in the rules, then nothing, But, assuming the Republicans are still holding on to the deal, then they will just quickly vote it down. They might just limit it to caucus members.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:- HFC gets to pick members of the rules committee.
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In fairness, the more entertaining read of that demand is that they just all want their own physical gavels they can bang on the back of the bench in front of them whenever they’re angry/bored. And that would be entirely in line with their character.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:According to CNN: lol, what did Swalwell do to piss them off that much?
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PostNouveau posted:lol, what did Swalwell do to piss them off that much? Had sex with a woman who turned out to be a Chinese spy.
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Gyges posted:Honestly, letting the hostage takers skip the line and become chairperson seems like the most likely thing to cause these rules to fail. All the concessions that bite the loyal members just seem to increase the comedy situation where McCarthy wins the vote and then we're back to a deadlock on passing the rules. If I were the Democratic leadership I'd be using long-termers who have build up something faintly resembling professional camaraderie to spread dissent across the aisle. "Gee, it seems so unfair that you've put in the time and paid your dues and these assholes get to jump ahead just because the throw a temper tantrum. I don't know how you stand it. Here, have another beer on me. I feel for ya, I really do."
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Re-reading all of those demands, it all seems incredibly pointless when they only have a slim majority in the house. Except for the parts where they’re going to make the House a circus.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Had sex with a woman who turned out to be a Chinese spy. Seriously? He did?
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Which brings us back to that bit two pages ago where 'moderate' Rs might help vote down the ultra-revised Rules package. Some of their demands probably could get the grudging go-along of the entire House. Most would be likely to fail in any case. But "let's let the kooks jump all the turnstiles and get ahead of us" is NOT going to sit well amongst many of the rank-and-file. Which means that the kooks can yell "WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WERE PROMISED!", even if many of them were "we will vote on X" rather than "we will vote on X and it will PASS," and things will get nicely funky once again. PostNouveau posted:Seriously? He did? Yep. And was cleared of any potential wrongdoing, but that's why every time Swalwell opens his mouth, Twitter lights up with thousands of idiots yelling "bang bang Fang Fang."
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HPanda posted:In fairness, the more entertaining read of that demand is that they just all want their own physical gavels they can bang on the back of the bench in front of them whenever they’re angry/bored. Having one of the million lawyers on Kevin's side craft the rules such that they look to be caving but actually only do stuff like this would be the most amazing outcome to this poo poo show.
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# ? Jan 6, 2023 22:16 |
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PostNouveau posted:lol, what did Swalwell do to piss them off that much? Short answer? Be effective. Long answer? "Gave information to a chinese spy" except for the part where That isn't true quote:In December 2020, Swalwell was named in a press report about suspected Chinese spy Fang Fang or Christine Fang,[61][62][63] who had since at least 2012 been cultivating contacts with California politicians who the Chinese government believed had promising futures in politics.[64][65] Axios reported that Fang participated in fundraising for Swalwell's 2014 congressional election bid, met Swalwell at events, and helped place an intern inside his congressional office. Swalwell ended ties with Fang in 2015 after U.S. intelligence briefed him and top members of Congress on concerns that Chinese agents were attempting to infiltrate Congress. Officials believe Fang did not obtain classified information from her contacts, and Swalwell was not accused of any impropriety. So basically trying to do to him (falsely) what he (legitimately) did to Devin Nunes when he entered into the congressional record the fact that Nunes was in contact with Lev Parnas (this was during the first Impeachment hearing) Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Had sex with a woman who turned out to be a Chinese spy. I didn't know that Eric Swalwell was a midwestern mayor quote:Through campaign fundraising, extensive networking, personal charisma, and romantic or sexual relationships with at least two Midwestern mayors, Fang was able to gain proximity to political power, according to current and former U.S. intelligence officials and one former elected official. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jan 6, 2023 |
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PostNouveau posted:Seriously? He did? Let he who has not been catfished by an agent of a foreign power cast the first stone
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PostNouveau posted:Seriously? He did? Yeah. She targeted a bunch of California and Midwest politicians and volunteered/befriended/donated to them. Swalwell allegedly had a "brief romantic encounter" with her, but he won't personally confirm or deny if he had sex with her. quote:Democratic congressman says he did not share sensitive information with suspected Chinese spy quote:Swalwell, in an interview with Politico, also sidestepped the question about how intimate he was with Fang, who intelligence officials said had sex with at least two Midwestern mayors as she tried to get information from them. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jan 6, 2023 |
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EDIT: removed since the post was amended. I still maintain that any attempt by the GOP to remove Swalwell from committee assignments is nothing more than their usual petty, childish revenge fantasies rather than for any legitimate reason.
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PostNouveau posted:lol, what did Swalwell do to piss them off that much? I'd ask why Omar and none of the other progs but i think in my heart I know the answer
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Google Jeb Bush posted:I'd ask why Omar and none of the other progs but i think in my heart I know the answer Yeah, unfortunately I do not need that one explained at all.
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loving all the mayors in Ohio in an attempt to get in early on the next Buttigieg.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:- Promise to lay out a balanced budget with specific cuts to SS, Medicare, and Medicaid and hold a vote on it. freedom caucus unveiling its plan to give democrats the senate in 2024
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James Garfield posted:freedom caucus unveiling its plan to give democrats the senate in 2024 Yeah, that seems like it has the potential to backfire spectacularly.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean, I totally would be swigging from a flask at this point if I was a congressman right now. Maybe even just drinking straight from a fifth of bourbon with my feet propped up on the desk. There are no rules at the moment, meaning nobody can stop you.
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Informed speculation: https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1611465200590266387 https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1611466089405505536
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coelomate posted:Informed speculation: Kevin will get to be called speaker and that’s what’s important
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Reeker - it rhymes with "Speaker"
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i am a moron posted:They are inventing new and exciting ways to embarrass themselves ahead of getting the poo poo slapped out of the GOP in another GE. Good job Kev dawg Yeah, cutting SS/Medicare etc. is a good way to get the AARP to utterly destroy you.
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Only 4 days to see who gets to hold the keys. Next up, what to have for dinner. 2 weeks of voting.
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https://twitter.com/Moxie_Manda/status/1611154583811670016?s=20&t=_0DgP1UrPc90DNJt1z1HaQ
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Nodding out with The Needle still in your arm, in public
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Moktaro posted:Yeah, cutting SS/Medicare etc. is a good way to get the AARP to utterly destroy you. You can do it, like they've been continually raising the age SS kicks in. You just need to hem and haw about how terrible it is, and you don't want to but the numbers are making you do it. However, fighting to make it a House Rule that you must cut "entitlements" is just dumb as all gently caress. Especially since it seems to be specifically labeling cutting SS/Medicare/Medicaid instead of calling for "reasonable spending limits" that just happen to include gutting what remains of our safety net.
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The House GOP is going to sink their entire party for 2024. There is no way that this clown show isn’t going to become an embarrassment on the entire party for the next two years that the general public isn’t going to be able to ignore. I say we start taking bets now on how many government shutdowns we are going to have.
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https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1611487936180113417 https://twitter.com/MZanona/status/1611489249270038528
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Djarum posted:The House GOP is going to sink their entire party for 2024. There is no way that this clown show isn’t going to become an embarrassment on the entire party for the next two years that the general public isn’t going to be able to ignore. I agree My bet is one shutdown
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https://twitter.com/MZanona/status/1611492809776807942 https://twitter.com/MZanona/status/1611494657225007105
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Piell posted:https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1611487936180113417
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Since when do they have a stiffy for term limits?
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Narcissus1916 posted:Since when do they have a stiffy for term limits? At least 1994?
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My (Democratic) state assembly member asked in a survey about term limits. Seems to come up every once in a while everywhere.
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