MLB Offseason: It's All About the Positions He Doesn't Play

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Sports Argument Stadium > MLB Offseason: It's All About the Positions He Doesn't Play

«‹›243 »

Who's your 2022 MVP? This poll is closed.
Shohei Ohtani	50	59.52%
Aaron Judge	19	22.62%
Hey, the national league has an MVP too you know!	15	17.86%
Total:	84 votes

[Edit Poll (moderators only)]

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

he was definitely supposed to be the heir apparent to Posey

# ? Jan 6, 2023 21:45

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 30, 2024 20:10

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

Sydin posted:

Wasn't Bart supposed to be like a slam dunk every day AS catcher?

I thought he was always supposed to be a power-over-hit guy, but he was at least supposed to be good enough defensively and have enough of that power to play every day. Not sure about the AS stuff.

# ? Jan 6, 2023 21:48

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

Poque posted:

There's no such thing, which is why when you have one, you're supposed to let them walk and make no effort to retain them.

lol

# ? Jan 6, 2023 21:48

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

So my memory appears to have exaggerated the scouting report on him a bit, but back in 2020 when Bart was the Giants' top prospect the reports were pretty glowing, labeling him as a GG catcher with pop who's banging on the door so hard the Giants might have to bump Posey to 1B

quote:

The Atlantic Coast Conference player of the year and defensive player of the year in 2018, Bart went No. 2 overall to the Giants that June and set a since-broken record for the largest up-front bonus given to a drafted position player ($7,025,000). He reached Double-A in his first full pro season despite missing six weeks after a pitch broke a bone in his left hand, then tore up the Arizona Fall League until he got hit by another pitch and fractured his right thumb. Though San Francisco has tried to avoid rushing him, he could push Buster Posey to another position by the end of 2020.

Bart has more raw power than most catchers, the product of bat speed, strength and leverage in his 6-foot-2 frame. Though most of the righty-hitting slugger's homers come to his pull side, he has legitimate pop to all fields. While he doesn't get caught up swinging for the fences, he'll need to be more selective at the plate in order to hit for average.

There were questions about Bart's ability to stay behind the plate when he was in high school, but he continually has improved and now has Gold Glove upside. He has worked diligently to become a quality receiver, possesses a strong and accurate arm and blocks balls well. He also has a knack for calling pitches and the leadership qualities desired at his position.

# ? Jan 6, 2023 21:51

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

Sydin posted:

So my memory appears to have exaggerated the scouting report on him a bit, but back in 2020 when Bart was the Giants' top prospect the reports were pretty glowing, labeling him as a GG catcher with pop who's banging on the door so hard the Giants might have to bump Posey to 1B

You do also have to remember that Posey did not look good in 2019 (84 wRC+, only 1.8 fWAR overall in 114 games), so it was a slightly more reasonable guess.

# ? Jan 6, 2023 21:53

howe_sam: Mar 7, 2013; Creepy little garbage eaters

bawfuls posted:

Dodgers to their fans: here cry about this

https://twitter.com/Dodgers/status/1611452351348625408

And the Red Sox posted a related video
https://twitter.com/RedSox/status/1611461854206763014

# ? Jan 6, 2023 21:55

Penisaurus Sex: Feb 3, 2009; asdfghjklpoiuyt

Cal Raleigh is the catcher Joey Bart was supposed to be

# ? Jan 6, 2023 21:55

The Pussy Boss: Nov 2, 2004

Bart was one of the prospects who got screwed by covid. He was nowhere near ready in 2020, but Buster sat out the season and there was no plan b. Then Posey retired last year. He's had to work on plate discipline, pitch recognition etc at the big league level. Some of the shine is off. He whiffs way too much at breaking balls. But he's already a good defensive catcher with pop, and there's upside beyond that

# ? Jan 6, 2023 22:01

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

The Dodgers could use both of these players right now

https://twitter.com/kikehndez/status/1611476710645727232

# ? Jan 6, 2023 23:10

Some Numbers: Sep 28, 2006; "LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Seems odd they'd extend Devers and then immediately pick up another 3B, but maybe Turner's just going to DH?

# ? Jan 6, 2023 23:15

mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Reynolds isn't signing for 12.5AAV in this market.

# ? Jan 6, 2023 23:34

MrMidnight: Aug 3, 2006

We still waiting on the Dodgers to release Bauer? I think they end up keeping him after all.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 00:32

howe_sam: Mar 7, 2013; Creepy little garbage eaters

Some Numbers posted:

Seems odd they'd extend Devers and then immediately pick up another 3B, but maybe Turner's just going to DH?

They agreed to terms with Turner before Raffy agreed to his big deal, but the thinking has always been that Turner would primarily DH and also provide some depth at first and third.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 00:34

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

MrMidnight posted:

We still waiting on the Dodgers to release Bauer? I think they end up keeping him after all.

Remember it's still 1 pm in California

# ? Jan 7, 2023 00:45

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

zoux posted:

Remember it's still 1 pm in California

It's almost 4 p.m. in California.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 00:55

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

It is 4pm here and the Dodgers haven't said poo poo. They are definitely burying bad press as late as possible on a Friday. All in all a pretty awful winter that doesn't make me wanna watch this team! I guess I'll watch Kershaw starts and that's about it.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 00:58

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Pretty sure they will just announce the release at 5 PM local

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:02

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

If they were gonna release him they'd have announced it already. What is the benefit of burying that news?

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:07

The Pussy Boss: Nov 2, 2004

Trying to swing a trade, maybe?

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:11

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/Dodgers/status/1611517010554523649

He gone. Honestly, I didn't think there was any chance LAD were gonna keep him.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:19

Intruder: Mar 5, 2003; I got a taste for blown saves

Man after all the preamble I was worried they were going to say that due process was followed and he deserves the right to play etc etc

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:23

Critical: Aug 23, 2007

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/Dodgers/status/1611517010554523649

He gone. Honestly, I didn't think there was any chance LAD were gonna keep him.

this reads exactly like "he's staying" right up until the last sentence.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:26

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

Intruder posted:

Man after all the preamble I was worried they were going to say that due process was followed and he deserves the right to play etc etc

lmao same. Whoever wrote the statement needs to take a Freshman writing class: if you're delivering good news, lead with it!

Now I guess it's time to see what team if any figures to bring in this shithead for pennies on the dollar.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:27

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

And on January 6th too. Way to ruin Bauer's holiday.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:30

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

zoux posted:

And on January 6th too. Way to ruin Bauer's holiday.

lmao

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:36

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/Dodgers/status/1611517010554523649

He gone. Honestly, I didn't think there was any chance LAD were gonna keep him.

I was fully ready for the "And that's why we are going to make him complete a sensitivity training program prior to Spring Training." to end that statement, phew.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:38

No Safe Word: Feb 26, 2005

good job Dodgers

now to see the race to the bottom to who actually wants to sign the pest

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:39

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

WHere's Taubmann working these days

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:39

Dog Faced JoJo: Oct 15, 2004; Woof Woof

That was a cock-tease statement. Well done to the Dodgers for sticking to their principles.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:41

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

loving lmao at the entire statement emphasizing the rights of the accused and none of it emphasizing the awful nature of his transgressions

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:41

General Bullshit: Apr 20, 2020

Both Mize and Bart were seen as easy choices in the 2018 draft and have been really crummy in the majors.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:42

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

Dog Faced JoJo posted:

That was a cock-tease statement. Well done to the Dodgers for sticking to their principles.

They didn't even mention principles. It's a paragraph of covering their rear end about the detailed nature of the investigation and one completely judgment-neutral sentence that he's been cut.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:43

Intruder: Mar 5, 2003; I got a taste for blown saves

Seemed very much like a "don't complain, MLBPA" sort of statement

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:44

Penisaurus Sex: Feb 3, 2009; asdfghjklpoiuyt

I'm a bit at a loss on who the obvious team to sign him is.

There are way less outwardly terrible owners nowadays I guess. Everyone is either a faceless conglomerate or a finance guy.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:47

Intruder: Mar 5, 2003; I got a taste for blown saves

I'm glad the Astros have so much starting pitching depth

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:48

Dog Faced JoJo: Oct 15, 2004; Woof Woof

bawfuls posted:

They didn't even mention principles. It's a paragraph of covering their rear end about the detailed nature of the investigation and one completely judgment-neutral sentence that he's been cut.

I interpreted it as a a thorough laying out of the case for the idiots that would be up in arms about dumping him.

I assume a gif of Hawk Harrelson saying "He gone" would be sufficient (and satisfying) for most of SAS.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:49

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

lol what the gently caress

https://twitter.com/FabianArdaya/status/1611525205008207872

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:50

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

Dog Faced JoJo posted:

I interpreted it as a a thorough laying out of the case for the idiots that would be up in arms about dumping him.

I assume a gif of Hawk Harrelson saying "He gone" would be sufficient (and satisfying) for most of SAS.

They could have also included at least one statement explicitly stating their principles on this issue. Some boilerplate PR-speak about how seriously they take domestic violence or whatever. But it's all cover-our-rear end Bauer-defense.

Whatever, thank god he's gone, but the way the organization handled this whole saga definitely lowered my opinion of the people in charge.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:52

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

zoux posted:

And on January 6th too. Way to ruin Bauer's holiday.

Hell yeah.

Good job dodgers you did what you were supposed to.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:53

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 30, 2024 20:10

KICK BAMA KICK: Mar 2, 2009

I'm hoping that whatever else an organization could overlook, he's just too obviously impossible to deal with to bother taking the chance, as in the above.

# ? Jan 7, 2023 01:53

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Sports Argument Stadium > MLB Offseason: It's All About the Positions He Doesn't Play

«‹›243 »