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Chinathread: Chinese and foreign shadow juice
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Jan 8, 2023 01:39
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GoutPatrol posted:Please post more I think I have a bottle of Chinese 'Xinjiang Sandyland' white in a cupboard. I will hook it out and post my findings next time I find an excuse to crack open a bottle. peanut posted:lol do you have access to a lab for composition analysis? I'd love to see the results. It was definitely wine, and not even the worst I've tasted this year! There are a handful of good quality wines out of China every year and they're getting better. But this was... definitely not one of their finer efforts.
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Jan 8, 2023 01:54
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I feel like there's something very Chinese about the phrase "This wine, in accordance with international winemaking regulations, (is) carefully brewed and blended in oak barrels." How do you know this wine is good? Because we made it the exact same way all the top guys made it like you're supposed to, that's how you know we're quality!
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Jan 8, 2023 03:45
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peanut posted:lol do you have access to a lab for composition analysis? I'd love to see the results. Yeah, I'd like to see the lead concentration.
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Jan 8, 2023 04:19
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cynic posted:I work for a company that handles wine awards, and we get a fair bit of Chinese wine through, and some brave souls like myself end up actually drinking them; specimens like this 'Chateaux Huadong Perry' which I kept some tasting notes on. This is some great stuff
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Jan 8, 2023 04:21
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That label reminds me of when I saw some liquor that had a bunch of award stickers but heard the "Oh Nonononononono" meme in my head when I noticed they were from a competition in Shanghai.
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Jan 8, 2023 04:27
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A lot of the problem is on the consumer side too. People in China (and South Korea), for the most part, want reds that are just kinda one note and excruciatingly sweet. There's no point making good wine as a Chinese winemaker because there's no market to sell it to. If people want to drink it they want the kool-aid poo poo, and if they want to show off how sophisticated they are they want expensive French bottles, not domestic. And there's no export market for Chinese wines.
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Jan 8, 2023 04:34
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I'm reminded of occasionally buying the weirdest, cheapest bottles of vodka I could find in eastern europe, which were always a surprise. like less than two bucks for half a liter of some god awful stuff that even the alcoholic bums wouldn't touch? you'd open it and get hit with the smell of solvents that didn't even make sense wrt alcohol production
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Jan 8, 2023 05:38
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That's the soju or bottom shelf baijiu experience for sure.
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Jan 8, 2023 05:46
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the 1500won soju is exactly the same every time. it's not any good, but it is exactly the same every time, come on its the 150000won soju that has that insane variability
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Jan 8, 2023 05:57
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quote:god awful stuff that even the alcoholic bums wouldn't touch? you'd open it and get hit with the smell of solvents that didn't even make sense This is 100% the soju experience.
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Jan 8, 2023 06:04
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i'm talking about it always being a surprise. 1500won, you ain't ever getting a surprise
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Jan 8, 2023 06:12
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Grand Fromage posted:That's the soju or bottom shelf baijiu experience for sure. I got told off by my handler for buying this as a birthday gift for my cousin 
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Jan 8, 2023 06:16
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I have bought vodka that reeked of bleach and gotten a “yeah vodka does that sometimes” from the store when I returned it. At least I haven’t seen that brand ever again / can’t even describe it beyond the colour of the label.
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Jan 8, 2023 06:17
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Nam Taf posted:I got told off by my handler for buying this as a birthday gift for my cousin I've also victimized a number of friends with this. Still got an unopened one around here somewhere. The finest liquor 2 RMB can buy.
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Jan 8, 2023 06:18
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I don’t drink alcohol but I love cheap grape soda. What’s the closest equivalent to that in China?
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Jan 8, 2023 06:22
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Grand Fromage posted:I've also victimized a number of friends with this. Still got an unopened one around here somewhere. The finest liquor 2 RMB can buy. I had an unopened one for 7ish years. Lost 20% of its volume in that time.
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Jan 8, 2023 06:38
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Giant Metal Robot posted:I had an unopened one for 7ish years. Lost 20% of its volume in that time.
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Jan 8, 2023 06:39
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Since it's a 100 ml bottle I tried to bring one to attack Korean friends with but the security guy in China took it away from me. I tried to explain to him that I was not going to get drunk on the plane, you could not pay me to drink this poo poo. I failed.
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Jan 8, 2023 06:41
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Grand Fromage posted:Since it's a 100 ml bottle I tried to bring one to attack Korean friends with but the security guy in China took it away from me. I tried to explain to him that I was not going to get drunk on the plane, you could not pay me to drink this poo poo. I failed. "hey free ergoutou"
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Jan 8, 2023 06:51
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Soju is apparently not awful? My sense of soju is ruined by association I think. Just the smell gives me this sense of death and I can't touch the stuff after drinking a few lifetimes worth of it in Korea. But I was out with friends for Korean bbq and they had never had soju and they all thought it was good. I just wouldnt and stuck to my bottle of makgeolli which they all thought was gross. Which I don't understand because makgeolli is the best I don't know people are confusing.
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Jan 8, 2023 06:57
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Baijiu is undrinkable though. I've had those awkward meals with the inlaws where my father in law basically forces me to have a giant glass of it, and my mother in law is telling me "just sip it to make him happy" Sipping baijiu is not a good experience. I gotta get them gifts for the holidays, my wife is telling me "just bring booze and cigarettes" but that always feels so awkward. I'm gonna try and make a bunch of fudge cuz that feels like a nice gesture, but also bring a couple bottles of lovely overpriced Chinese alcohol. I respect culture and I'm no better than anyone, but I hate all the rules of Chinese gift giving. BrainDance fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Jan 8, 2023 |
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Jan 8, 2023 07:01
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big tray of fudge that has cigarettes and liquor buried in it, you'll be child (in law) #1 in no time
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Jan 8, 2023 07:33
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those liquor chocolates but intead of baileys and johnny walkers it's chunghwas and double happiness
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Jan 8, 2023 08:12
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Nam Taf posted:I got told off by my handler for buying this as a birthday gift for my cousin Oh Red Star is fine.... It's not the real bad stuff. I actually kind of like it. I like Baijiu in general though so my opinions are not to be trusted. The real bad stuff comes in plastic jugs like this: 
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Jan 8, 2023 09:21
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SerCypher posted:The real bad stuff comes in plastic jugs like this: There's a whole gang of my father in laws friends, one always shows up with a big plastic jug of baijiu like that. Except it doesn't have a label and it's shaped kinda like those plastic gas cans. It must be like 4 liters of baijiu or something. I have no idea where he gets it but wherever it is must be a wild place.
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Jan 8, 2023 10:05
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your wife and inlaws may be on to something when they say 'just get him cigarettes and liquor'
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Jan 8, 2023 10:15
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SerCypher posted:Oh Red Star is fine.... It's not the real bad stuff. I actually kind of like it. I like Baijiu in general though so my opinions are not to be trusted. "How's it taste?" "It tastes like the tears of a starving orphan on a cold winter night, forlorn and desolate. No mixer could save this, and now I kinda want to die." "Gotcha, wanna see if 5 runs through the Britta filter can save it?" "No, I'm just going to go lay down for a while."
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Jan 8, 2023 10:49
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Gonna roll the dice on methanol with those, jesus h.
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Jan 8, 2023 10:52
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BrainDance posted:Soju is apparently not awful? My sense of soju is ruined by association I think. Just the smell gives me this sense of death and I can't touch the stuff after drinking a few lifetimes worth of it in Korea. its bad but its exactly the same bad each time. like a diet coke
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Jan 8, 2023 19:43
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cynic posted:I work for a company that handles wine awards, and we get a fair bit of Chinese wine through, and some brave souls like myself end up actually drinking them; specimens like this 'Chateaux Huadong Perry' which I kept some tasting notes on. showed this to a couple friends of mine that are vintners and they are begging for more, please hook a brother up
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Jan 8, 2023 22:52
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I like baijiu fine, but if you're going to sip it, you need a can of Taiwan Classic or some really nice tea on hand.
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Jan 9, 2023 00:28
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Atlas Hugged posted:I like baijiu fine, but if you're going to sip it, you need a can of Taiwan Classic or some really nice tea on hand. what type of spirit do the thai people like?
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Jan 9, 2023 07:24
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Atlas Hugged posted:I like baijiu fine, but if you're going to sip it, you need a can of Taiwan Classic or some really nice tea on hand. I like sipping it as well, but if you're going to do shots I highly recommend using the little tiny baijiu shotglasses. I think they're like 10ml usually, which makes it a little more surviveable. Doing full 1-2oz shots of baijiu is pretty rough.
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Jan 9, 2023 08:20
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I recently brought a small bottle of Er Guo Tou to my mom's place just to introduce it to a couple of her friends for a laugh. She didn't try it at the time, and everyone else was so grossed out by it that hardly any of it was actually consumed, so I left it in the mini-fridge/wine cooler. A few days later she called me and was like "I think you left a bottle of sake here but something's wrong with it, it tastes SO BAD" lol
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Jan 9, 2023 08:36
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SerCypher posted:I like sipping it as well, but if you're going to do shots I highly recommend using the little tiny baijiu shotglasses. Yeah, my neighbor usually serves it up in the little glasses. It's only at some really sleezy bars in Taiwan that I've done 1-2oz shots of it. poo poo is rough. Ups_rail posted:what type of spirit do the thai people like? If you're at a Thai style bar/restaurant, you'll see tables drinking some kind of blended rum or whiskey spirit. The popular ones are SangSom, Blend 285 and Pipers 100. It's usually served as a mixed drink with coke, ice, and soda water. There's also a spirit called lao khao which is made from molasses these days. You can buy officially distilled and bottled versions of it, but it's mostly moonshine and sold on the side of the road in reused bottles. It's often fused with local herbs and has a medicinal flavor to it. I think it's awful, but apparently it can be very popular. Baijiu for life.
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Jan 9, 2023 09:02
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Atlas Hugged posted:There's also a spirit called lao khao which is made from molasses these days. You can buy officially distilled and bottled versions of it, but it's mostly moonshine and sold on the side of the road in reused bottles. It's often fused with local herbs and has a medicinal flavor to it. I think it's awful, but apparently it can be very popular. Give it a century, and there will be hipsters brewing small batches of it, competing with the handful of surviving commercial brands. (Depending on the future development of Thailand, ofc.) E: To expand on that, it sounds a lot like the history of European herbal spirits; akevitt/aquavit went from "dodgy farmer moonshine with herbs to take the edge off" to "that traditional thing your parents drag out for the Christmas dinner" in about that much time. Computer viking fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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Jan 9, 2023 14:06
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BrainDance posted:I just wouldnt and stuck to my bottle of makgeolli which they all thought was gross. Which I don't understand because makgeolli is the best Same sometimes I drink makgeolli with the oldtimers and its really the only stuff I can drink in Korea. The headaches I've had from soju are maybe among the worst hangovers I've experienced. Its also weird how people wanna mix it with beer. All the drat time it flattens the beer and tastes like gently caress. Max on draft is the best beer amongst the "Nascar" beers here
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Jan 9, 2023 14:29
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Renreeja posted:Same sometimes I drink makgeolli with the oldtimers and its really the only stuff I can drink in Korea. Makgeolli is so good I don't understand how it hasn't made it far out of Korea yet.
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Jan 9, 2023 17:37
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best country kek (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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