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Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

Flaps getting bodied on Twitter currently, all for it.
https://twitter.com/I_amMukhtar/status/1608775647475937280

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Every jeffrey needs a ghislaine

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
even for Jessflaps “the sex trafficker should have put a woman in charge” is spectacularly dumb

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1612081188641857538

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
When I said 'end outsourcing in the NHS' I didn't mean end ALL outsourcing on the NHS!!!

Gwaint
Oct 22, 2010

"Music is the truth. Just listen..."
When I said I'd stop kicking you I only meant in the shin, gonna keep kicking you in the head and stomach though, we've always been doing that

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

keir being PM is going going to be very funny

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe
As soon as Wes Streeting (which my phone keeps wanting to autocorrect to 'West Street Ingredients', by the way...) came out with his plan to use the private sector temporarily to fix the backlog and shortfalls in the NHS, I've assumed that a Starmer-led Labour government would be the one to oversee the end of the NHS in any recognisable form.

They're all too steeped in neoliberalism, too terrified of the press, too devoted to pandering to the 50-year-old-man-with-a-mortgage and too in hock with various private healthcare lobbying groups to do otherwise. They're going to pitch it as some sort of Nixon In China moment - "Labour created the NHS and you can trust us to reform it so it is fit for the next 80 years" - and loads of guff about pragmatism, helping people now in any way they can, and how only their partners in the private sector can provide the investment that the NHS needs after years of Tory mismanagement.

Even if they genuinely believe that they can get the private sector in temporarily to help (which I doubt) it's another example of them being really politically stupid because they're making a noose for their own neck - if they ever did try to end those temporary deals they'll get monstered for removing capacity and reckless spending.

But it won't come to that - it'll be Your NHS: provided by Serco in partnership with Kaiser Permanente all the way. Probably some sort of mandatory insurance scheme paid via employers (so healthcare is now tied to your job), some sort of tiered 'NHS Essentials' for those not in work and loads of little £10-20 charges for appointments, prescriptions, on-going care, health issued deemed to be 'self-inflicted' (obesity, alcoholism, working class sports injuries etc.) which can be claimed back via some byzantine means-testing system on the .gov website.

They'll never go as far as to actually privatise or fully de-socialise it - the outsourced model is too lucrative and low-risk a way to syphon money from the state to private coffers. It'll be just like the railways, the water supply, the energy sector or any of the other public services that have been neo-liberalised; the NHS brand will remain, and it will still mostly be 'free [or virtually free] at point of delivery' but there'll be a new, exciting, dynamic, modernising, profit-extracting layer in the middle - reducing service, making profit and leaving the Treasury to pick up the tab for more than it would have cost to do it 'properly'.

The Tories have brought the NHS as a socialised single-payer system to the brink of destruction. NuNuLab are going to push it over the edge and ask that they get praised for doing so because it was a Tough Decision. Centrist loving love Tough Decisions because it makes them seem neutral and pragmatic and Labour administering the coup de grace to the NHS is the Toughest Decision there is.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
For all the talk of "the Tories are scared of Labour now that Starmer is in charge", it's probably the best result for the Tories.
The only thing that could stop Labour winning the next GE is someone coming up with a brilliant series of policies that makes a meaningful positive difference to people's lives, and there's 1) no-one in the Tory party talented enough to do that; and 2) no-one in the Tory party interested in doing that.
So Labour win the next GE and Starmer is going to be poo poo. Possibly not as poo poo as the Tories, but anyone who votes Labour at the next GE hoping that they'll be an improvement over the Tories is going to abandon Starmer at the following GE. Which should mean that the Tories get back on the gravy train at the first opportunity.

And Labour get dumpstered again and nothing changes.

/\ /\ /\
There's actually a trend within NHS trusts at the moment towards bringing services back in-house, because they're cheaper to run and easier to performance-manage. Compared to having to go through 17 layers of bureaucracy to request someone puts a shelf up and then getting charged £700 for the job, which means getting the budget holder to sign off on it; you just make the request and someone comes out and just, y'know, does their job.

kingturnip fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jan 8, 2023

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

forkboy84 posted:

https://twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1612029092664152065?s=20

Laura K doing her job? Odd to see but I thought this exchange was pretty onpoint.

there's no way that a government that's in any way left wing can possibly come to power so she can indulge herself

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

tbh some of it also just is that boris was part of the incestuous media so they all gave him an easy ride, and rishi is part of the outgroup and stabbed their precious boy, so it's easier to go after him

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

BalloonFish posted:

But it won't come to that - it'll be Your NHS: provided by Serco in partnership with Kaiser Permanente all the way. Probably some sort of mandatory insurance scheme paid via employers (so healthcare is now tied to your job), some sort of tiered 'NHS Essentials' for those not in work and loads of little £10-20 charges for appointments, prescriptions, on-going care, health issued deemed to be 'self-inflicted' (obesity, alcoholism, working class sports injuries etc.) which can be claimed back via some byzantine means-testing system on the .gov website.

The pandemic has already helped push along tying healthcare to your job. Various big firms (banks etc) set up relationships with private healthcare companies that offer 24x7 virtual GP services during the pandemic "to support their staff" and began offering it as a free or paid perk of employment, so the government just needs to keep running down the health services and by default you'll need to work for a large corporate that has one of those tie-ups in order to get prompt GP level healthcare or prescriptions. But it also handily funnels you nicely into the wider world of private healthcare as well for all the things that aren't covered by your corporate perks, but they'll point you towards if you ask.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
a sense of career progression not involving getting paid is what the loving girl guides are for

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

A year since this classic tweet…

https://twitter.com/JacobKishnevi/status/1479552058399367177

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Even as books for children go though she isn't very good.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Gotta love how her attempts to make Harry go through the throes of puberty was to just hit caps lock all the time in Order of the Penis.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/halpins1/status/1611710342438031361

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



The expenses scandal wasn't that long ago was it? Have people just forgotten?

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

stev posted:

The expenses scandal wasn't that long ago was it? Have people just forgotten?

consequences for utterly taking the piss have only recently started applying to anyone in the conservative party, and only in a few limited high-profile cases

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!

mf looks ai generated

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun


you can't fool me. these are AI generated images

e: goddamnit

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Thispersonshouldnotexist.com

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

"Computer, give me Freddie Flintoff and Ricky Gervais as a toff, shouldn't be too hard."

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Fourth and fifth for expenses:


Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Disco Elysium 2 art looks terrifying

for reference, this is what proper conservative politicians should look like




Nenonen fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 8, 2023

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

forkboy84 posted:

https://twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1612029092664152065?s=20

Laura K doing her job? Odd to see but I thought this exchange was pretty onpoint.
This is fine, I will pass it on and make my landlord feel valued by writing him a note to say how smart and attractive he is instead of paying rent

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

happyhippy posted:

If you think about it, we only eat the female chickens.
Do cocks/roosters/male chickens taste different?

Afaik, yes. Though coq au vin is a thing (and designed to deal with tougher meat that needs longer cooking - the chickens we eat these days tend to be a lot younger than in pre-industrial/battery-farming times).

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Nenonen posted:

Disco Elysium 2 art looks terrifying

for reference, this is what proper conservative politicians should look like




what the gently caress is wrong with the faces of the two on the left

and the right guy looks like he just heard the verdict in divorce court

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Tesseraction posted:

what the gently caress is wrong with the faces of the two on the left

and the right guy looks like he just heard the verdict in divorce court

Finns swim in the shallow end of gene pool

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guy on the right is clearly an evil chuckle brother.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

Guy on the right is clearly an evil chuckle brother.

A reminder that their two older brothers often played the bad guys in the Chuckle Brothers' shows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patton_Brothers

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012

Nenonen posted:

Finns swim in the shallow end of gene pool

lol racism. That amount of phenotypical variation suggests the very opposite in fact.
Only see folks that look like you in your environment? Congrats, you are in a genetic cul-de-sac!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Guy on the right is clearly an evil chuckle brother.
Suomi, to you.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Guavanaut posted:

Suomi, to you.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Honestly all of them look like normal brits to me.

E: except tapani mäki who looks like a character from gta vice city.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

It's really sad that MPs aren't paid enough and are forced to take extra jobs

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1612026906479673348

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1612026912095838208

SpiritOfLenin
Apr 29, 2013

be happy :3


for some reason, i noticed today in the store that the ad for the newest yellow mag here in Finland had "PRINCE HARRY KILLED 25 PEOPLE AND THOUGHT OF THEM AS 'PAWNS' " as one of its headlines. i suspect some form of british royal brain virus has infected the owners of our yellow mags

SpiritOfLenin
Apr 29, 2013

be happy :3


EmptyVessel posted:

lol racism. That amount of phenotypical variation suggests the very opposite in fact.
Only see folks that look like you in your environment? Congrats, you are in a genetic cul-de-sac!

Nenonen is a Finn as well. self-loathing and despising our fellow Finns is a part of the Finnish character.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean yeah it is slightly weird to be praising people for invading a place and blowing up 25 of them. Normally we would call that serial killing but I suppose it is very appropriate kingly behaviour.

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