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Squeesome Edit: what a snipe! To add content, I picked up PLA again after beating Scarlet. Does that game just use a totally different stat/damage formula than the main series? I'd like to think I have a good general sense of how much an attack should do, or whatever, and I find myself off, and by a lot, way more in PLA than in any other game. Jean-Paul Shartre fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Jan 8, 2023 |
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JohnCompany posted:Squeesome Yeah PLAs battle system is supposed to feel more fast-paced and a bit more strategic with the style attacks.
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So is there a good guide around on how to approach team-building for competitive Pokemon? I've been enjoying gen 9 well enough to try diving into that, the last time I tried was gen 6 (which I only remember because my team had a Chesnaught in it... which probably gives an idea how good I was). Building an Iron Hands for Tera Raids was mercifully quick, too, so the notion of building an in-game team isn't too bad. I'm not even sure if I want to do singles or doubles, basically the only thing I've decided is that I really want to use Iron Valiant when they allow Paradox Pokemon into ranked next month. And I tend to like defensive playstyles in other games, but I'm not sure if that'll carry over here. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Jan 8, 2023 |
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JohnCompany posted:Squeesome it uses a quite different damage formula. In particular, level advantage is much less significant in PLA.
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Flopsy posted:That's the target audience, kinda rough business when the demographic Nintendo is aiming for joins the raids. And no I'm not being a poo poo about this I'm dead serious. They operate on rule of cool and assume if a pokemon looks badass it'll do more damage. yeah I would not have guessed that Slowbro of all dudes would kick rear end and dominate but here we are
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what are you talking about, Slowbro is badass as hell
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The Virgin Hydreigon vs the Chad Slowbro
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Cleretic posted:So is there a good guide around on how to approach team-building for competitive Pokemon? I've been enjoying gen 9 well enough to try diving into that, the last time I tried was gen 6 (which I only remember because my team had a Chesnaught in it... which probably gives an idea how good I was). Building an Iron Hands for Tera Raids was mercifully quick, too, so the notion of building an in-game team isn't too bad. vgcguide.com rules; a bunch of the game-specific stuff is out of date because the site went up in April but all the information about team-building is applicable I think doubles is a better and more interesting meta and the site is geared toward that because that’s the VGC format but the general advice about how to think about your team, how to build a core, etc., should all still be accurate across formats. check pikalytics.com to determine what you’ll need counters for
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Smogon's working their poo poo out, apparently Chi-Yu is an absolute monster.
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Flopsy posted:That's the target audience, kinda rough business when the demographic Nintendo is aiming for joins the raids. And no I'm not being a poo poo about this I'm dead serious. They operate on rule of cool and assume if a pokemon looks badass it'll do more damage. when i was a kid i had the decency to be great at video games! 
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the good Smogon formats are the weird ones, like Camomons and Little Cup. OU is bad and boring and there are like four Pokémon you can use in it. and also you can’t play 6v6 in Battle Stadium on cart
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Off the subject, I've been playing the Orre games for the first time and I've gotta say that Sableye can be the bane of your existence if you pick Espeon as your starter in XD (the former being immune to pretty much every move the latter can learn and its own attacks all being super effective)
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precision posted:Name your Maushold NIMH I don't get it, what's the secret?
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Anyways my maushold was named Full Maus But also maushold is such a good name that a nickname isn't needed
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Larryb posted:Off the subject, I've been playing the Orre games for the first time and I've gotta say that Sableye can be the bane of your existence if you pick Espeon as your starter in XD (the former being immune to pretty much every move the latter can learn and its own attacks all being super effective) It should still have Bite from being an Eevee, and is also the only real special coverage most of them will get. At least XD is not that difficult overall.
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Crosspeice posted:It should still have Bite from being an Eevee, and is also the only real special coverage most of them will get. At least XD is not that difficult overall. As I found out during a round on Mt. Battle, Bite doesn’t work either (Sableye is immune to Normal, Psychic, Dark, and I think Fighting) Meanwhile in Colosseum, a decently leveled Espeon with some good Psychic moves can almost solo the game on its own (to the point where I had to start being careful so I didn’t accidentally oneshot a Shadow Pokémon I wanted) Larryb fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Jan 8, 2023 |
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Does Order Up still increase Dondozo's stat when it hits a Fairy? I know it still works when hitting Protect, but not sure if it works differently for type immunities
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HootTheOwl posted:Anyways my maushold was named Full Maus Full Maus is pretty good! Agreed though, 'Maushold' is an amazing pokemon name. What does Dondozo allude to as a name, anyone know? I can't remember it at all.
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Larryb posted:As I found out during a round on Mt. Battle, Bite doesn’t work either (Sableye is immune to Normal, Psychic, Dark, and I think Fighting) Sableye shouldn't be immune to Dark even in Gen 3, it's Ghost/Dark meaning Bite should be doing neutral damage. The Colosseum Espeon is insane, they give you full-power Return right off the bat. The Umbreon just can't catch up, such is the curse of being a Dark-type before Gen 4.
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HootTheOwl posted:I don't get it, what's the secret? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs._Frisby_and_the_Rats_of_NIMH
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_of_NIMH
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HopperUK posted:Full Maus is pretty good! Agreed though, 'Maushold' is an amazing pokemon name. Bulbapedia posted:Dondozo may be a combination of don (Spanish for lord) and どうぞ dōzo (Japanese for "please (help yourself)"; typically said when offering something). Don also refers to a crime boss, which may allude to Dondozo's relationship with Tatsugiri, who acts as its consigliere. It may also derive from bozo, in reference to Dondozo's dimwitted nature. Basically it alludes to its chef design
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That's awesome! Thank you for getting that.
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Just got this game started last night, named my fuecoco Crocochile. From past games off the top of my head Mamopearls the Mamoswine Doppelgengar Goldenfleece the ampharos
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xedo posted:Just got this game started last night, named my fuecoco Crocochile. Please post how it's going if you like, as you go along!
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HopperUK posted:Please post how it's going if you like, as you go along! Reckon I will!
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Funky Valentine posted:Sableye shouldn't be immune to Dark even in Gen 3, it's Ghost/Dark meaning Bite should be doing neutral damage. Huh, I could have sworn it did nothing but I’ll give it another try when/if I encounter one again. And yeah, Espeon stayed on the front lines for the entirety of Colosseum (and once it learned Psychic I was basically unstoppable), it feels like they nerfed it a bit in XD but it’s still pretty good there too. Larryb fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jan 8, 2023 |
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Anybody just starting out or if you just want it idc but I completely forgot to use my adventurers code bonus stuff and have no need for it. U2113XBE7XFV0RDJ
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named my tandemaus Those Meeces because i'm old.
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Cleretic posted:So is there a good guide around on how to approach team-building for competitive Pokemon? I've been enjoying gen 9 well enough to try diving into that, the last time I tried was gen 6 (which I only remember because my team had a Chesnaught in it... which probably gives an idea how good I was). Building an Iron Hands for Tera Raids was mercifully quick, too, so the notion of building an in-game team isn't too bad. I'm no pro by any means, but in my experience with Ranked Singles (which I personally prefer to Doubles) a defensive playstyle largely depends on whether your opponent has anything among the three Pokémon they pick that can sabotage your strategy. Hunkering down is less useful if the opponent can just use Super Fang to halve your current HP, Taunt to prevent moves like Recover and Will-o-Wisp, Swords Dance/Nast Plot to buff their attack, etc. Gamefreak has also been slowly taking away options good for defensive builds over generations. Back in Alpha Sapphire I had a Milotic with Recover/Toxic/Scald/Ice Beam that once managed to burn a Dragon Dance-boosted Dragonite, survive its Thunder Punches only to Recover the majority of the lost HP each time, and finally won the fight with Ice Beam after the burn had whittled Dragonite's HP down. My poor Milotic has since lost access first to Toxic, and now to Scald, which torpedoed my strategy with this Pokémon. The best thing to do is to actually play and observe the meta; what Pokémon show up the most, what ability, item, and moves do they usually have, how do their stats appear to be configured, etc. Then you can plan against specifics you're likely to encounter in play. Of course, this can also sometimes backfire if a player goes against the meta (which an opponent of mine discovered recently when they set up Light Screen to protect against the Special Attacks Armarouge usually employs only for their Pokémon to get OHKO'd with Flare Blitz). Hexmage-SA fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:No it's because they wanted to shift focus to the cool new evil dragon they had that's on the box so they pulled narrative weight from that plot line by softening its overall tone and importance and not whatever this rant is about. I am still in no way convinced that it's "Okay" to have that thing just grappled on to Nebby for the rest of the game.
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Hexmage-SA posted:Gamefreak has also been slowly taking away options good for defensive builds over generations. Back in Alpha Sapphire I had a Milotic with Recover/Toxic/Scald/Ice Beam that once managed to burn a Dragon Dance-boosted Dragonite, survive its Thunder Punches only to Recover the majority of the lost HP each time, and finally won the fight with Ice Beam after the burn had whittled Dragonite's HP down. My poor Milotic has since lost access first to Toxic, and now to Scald, which torpedoed my strategy with this Pokémon. I do like defensive play but I’m personally glad Scald has been sent to live on a farm upstate
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ROFL Octopus posted:I do like defensive play but I’m personally glad Scald has been sent to live on a farm upstate I like scald but I do think it's perhaps a bit off to have the best burning move in the game be water-type.
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So, is there a good recommended place to grind levels on low pokemon that I need to level up so I can do the elite four. Violet/scarlet
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The only moves I thought were outright disappointing to see them remove were Pursuit and Hidden Power, since they both had pretty useful and interesting niches, but I can understand Pursuit if they were trying to make switchouts less punishing; that's absolutely fair if so. Hidden Power I think was them planning ahead, though, because Terastallizing is basically a much less obtuse, much more visually and strategically interesting Hidden Power. And Terastallizing is better than mega-evos, Z-moves and Dynamaxing, so honestly, it was a good move to remove Hidden Power in preparation for Hidden Power On Crack.
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Resdfru posted:So, is there a good recommended place to grind levels on low pokemon that I need to level up so I can do the elite four. Violet/scarlet Around the northern Team Star base. Bring Normal encounter power.
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Cleretic posted:The only moves I thought were outright disappointing to see them remove were Pursuit and Hidden Power, since they both had pretty useful and interesting niches, but I can understand Pursuit if they were trying to make switchouts less punishing; that's absolutely fair if so. The best Hidden Power substitute will always just be Weather Ball in snow because HP was ice 95% of the time, anyway. 
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Hidden power fire was very popular and losing that crippled things that absolutely cannot deal with steel types otherwise. Tera blast is neat, but it being so restricted feels not great compared to how hidden power was.
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Saagonsa posted:Hidden power fire was very popular and losing that crippled things that absolutely cannot deal with steel types otherwise. The Mattybee posted:Hidden Power was stupid fiddly bullshit that made breeding even more annoying and its death should be celebrated These aren't mutually exclusive takes.
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