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Kaddish posted:The way the whole series 5 things works is seems bad for new and active players that have no hope of getting these really powerful cards for months and months.
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It's a system that seems to penalize/discourage new players, which is odd. That said, I think it's probably an extremely low percentage of players that have a significant amount of series 5 cards.
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Jan 9, 2023 15:48
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Kaddish posted:It's a system that seems to penalize/discourage new players, which is odd. That said, I think it's probably an extremely low percentage of players that have a significant amount of series 5 cards. It is odd, but do keep in mind that the token system only went in last month. Before that, the only way to get Series 5 cards was the 0.25% drop chance from caches. And those older players with ~25k tokens didn't get any out of their older caches, so they got a lump sum as compensation when the system went online. I get the impression Second Dinner is still fiddling extensively with how obtainable vs. whale exclusive they want the more powerful cards to be. Right now, they're definitely leaning way too far into the "gently caress newer players" side of the spectrum. Hopefully, they loosen the purse strings a bit before everyone loses interest.
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Jan 9, 2023 15:56
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I did end up skipping Psylocke. I do have Zabu-Negative-Surfer, but I'm still missing Wong and I'm having more success - and more fun - with my Dracula Kazoo deck. Red Skull is a bit of a priority right now because I need more value in my Dracula deck and he definitely provides. Zero too since he will allow me to remove Skull's downside, or even Lizard's or Maw's. Very useful card in a lot of decks. Now I just need Agent Coulson to go away so I can hopefully see something I want.
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Jan 9, 2023 16:14
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Who is Mystique turning into in her base art?
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Jan 9, 2023 16:21
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Opopanax posted:Who is Mystique turning into in her base art? Captain Marvel maybe? The shoulder strap seems out of place for her though.
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Jan 9, 2023 16:24
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Skippy McPants posted:It is odd, but do keep in mind that the token system only went in last month. Before that, the only way to get Series 5 cards was the 0.25% drop chance from caches. And those older players with ~25k tokens didn't get any out of their older caches, so they got a lump sum as compensation when the system went online. There were no series 4 or 5 cards before the token shop; all those things were added on the same update. edit: and the 12,000 tokens that CL3000+ players got as a lump sum is a lot. Can't stress that enough. For a new player starting now to earn that amount they'd have to advance well past 3000. goferchan fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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Jan 9, 2023 16:35
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Skippy McPants posted:It is odd, but do keep in mind that the token system only went in last month. Before that, the only way to get Series 5 cards was the 0.25% drop chance from caches. And those older players with ~25k tokens didn't get any out of their older caches, so they got a lump sum as compensation when the system went online. To me the central problem of the game is the lack of deckbuilding restrictions where if they release a strong card you just play it with all the other strong cards and its the best deck. Iceman, Scorpion, Maximus, Cosmo, Aero, Leader + 6 is able to beat everything and you just make adjustments to fit whatever new thing and if new thing is better your version is inferior. Aero is the biggest offender imo because she just beats everything you dont even have to care about what you're queuing into or whats popular.
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Jan 9, 2023 16:38
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Oh just pulled Typhoid Mary. Along with having Ebony Maw and Zero I might have to start looking at a deck with these large idiots.
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Jan 9, 2023 16:49
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Kaddish posted:
Lmao this guy banned me on Twitch for saying “Zabu is obviously a meta warping card that will affect every 4 drop card going forward” then went on a rant about people thinking they know balance before a card comes out and how he was more measured and smart.
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Jan 9, 2023 16:57
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Bottom Liner posted:Lmao this guy banned me on Twitch for saying “Zabu is obviously a meta warping card that will affect every 4 drop card going forward” then went on a rant about people thinking they know balance before a card comes out and how he was more measured and smart. So he’s a card game player. Edit: sorry, to be less card game player myself, dude is a pedantic rear end but his new player resources are some of the better ones available.
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Jan 9, 2023 17:02
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He makes informative videos but also gets triggered by a single emote in-game so he mutes people at the start, so I guess it's tricky to stay levelheaded when playing card games full-time.
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Jan 9, 2023 17:09
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does this thing even work? my pages always end up looking like this:  does it only work if i use the PC interface? boar guy fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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Jan 9, 2023 18:06
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boar guy posted:does this thing even work? my pages always end up looking like this: I very briefly tried to get mine working on PC and I ~think~ the only version that works out of the box is the android version and you may have to emulate that on PC.
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Jan 9, 2023 18:14
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Kaddish posted:I very briefly tried to get mine working on PC and I ~think~ the only version that works out of the box is the android version and you may have to emulate that on PC. yeah i play on a Pixel and was hoping to look at the data on my PC but it only seems to pick up the few games I played through Steam
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Jan 9, 2023 18:16
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boar guy posted:yeah i play on a Pixel and was hoping to look at the data on my PC but it only seems to pick up the few games I played through Steam Yeah since I play on ios 90% of the time I didn't bother persuing it further. Push El Burrito posted:Oh just pulled Typhoid Mary. Along with having Ebony Maw and Zero I might have to start looking at a deck with these large idiots. I tried running Zero, Typhoid Mary, Red Skull, Maw, etc it's fine. I didn't give it a ton of play. I've been running Crossbones instead of Jessica and I see now why Jessica is played more. Often the Crossbones limitation doesn't matter but when you really need him in a certain lane and can't play him it sucks. Kaddish fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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I wonder what's going on behind the scenes with the patch that was promised last week and had the balance notes leaked. It's also been a few days since there has been a bundle for sale, which seems like them leaving money on the table. I can't imagine they are happy with this.
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Jan 9, 2023 18:20
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Does the "stop at 590 and build up credits" advice still apply? I'm bumping up against that soon.
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DrBouvenstein posted:
I had all those handbooks, and always enjoyed Galactus’ expression in the frame 
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Push El Burrito posted:Does the "stop at 590 and build up credits" advice still apply? I'm bumping up against that soon. Yes. Stop there and get to infinite/cap out your credits.
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Push El Burrito posted:Does the "stop at 590 and build up credits" advice still apply? I'm bumping up against that soon.
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Jan 9, 2023 18:35
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There's also the issue that you will get paired with opponents who are much, much deeper into pool 3. Even if you don't care about rank that could be demoralizing.
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uXs posted:There's also the issue that you will get paired with opponents who are much, much deeper into pool 3. Even if you don't care about rank that could be demoralizing. Yup, you may need to change your mindset from wanting to win to wanting to learn. You’ll face a lot of decks and can take note of which you thought were the coolest. From there, you can head toward building that.
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To get an idea of how rough it is. There's a streamer who usually finishes around rank 150 who is trying to climb from 70 to infinite using only pool 2 and below cards this season (and without taking cubes from bots). 35 hours in he has gone from rank 70 to rank 73. His hidden mmr is higher so it wont be as rough for an actual new account but thats how lopsided the playing field is at CL600.
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JackDarko posted:Yup, you may need to change your mindset from wanting to win to wanting to learn. You’ll face a lot of decks and can take note of which you thought were the coolest. From there, you can head toward building that. lmao as someone who was bitching in this thread a lot about the 590 thing it’s basically the above. I’d recommend at least tryna get up to 70 for a reasonable goal & good chunk of credits. But after 590 the game definitely feels like you’ve just left the “tutorial” and now you’re playing with the big boys.
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doingitwrong posted:I wonder what's going on behind the scenes with the patch that was promised last week and had the balance notes leaked. It's also been a few days since there has been a bundle for sale, which seems like them leaving money on the table. I can't imagine they are happy with this. They gotta patch 3 versions at once and both Andorid and particularly iOS app review take time. It's has to pass all 3 of them before they'll schedule the update. Today Ben said "original eta is still good" so presumably they're looking at tuesday or wednesday for release.
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Walla posted:I did end up skipping Psylocke. I do have Zabu-Negative-Surfer, but I'm still missing Wong and I'm having more success - and more fun - with my Dracula Kazoo deck. Question for you and other Drac-Zoo friends. Are you frequently skipping turn 5 or is that typically only when you miss Drac? Having a lot of success climbing since I started actually playing this deck right but im finding myself playing Red Skull (without Zero, dont have him yet) moreso than Infinaut and that cannot be correct Think my issue is thinking KM is way more prevalent than he is and im hesitant to empy my hand until turns 5-6 the_american_dream fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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novamute posted:So if you Leader into Luke's Bar with priority you copy their cards but if you don't have priority you don't copy anything they put into it. Just had a T5 Wave'd Leader v Leader play and I filled up my (non-Luke) lane with his Leaders but he didn't get anything off mine that I put into Luke. Then promptly lost the next game trying to T6 Leader without priority on a board with 2x Luke's and 1x Death's Domain Sorry you've found one of the four or more different definitions of "play" the game uses behind the scenes.
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the_american_dream posted:Question for you and other Drac-Zoo friends. Are you frequently skipping turn 5 or is that typically only when you miss Drac? Having a lot of success climbing since I started actually playing this deck right but im finding myself playing Red Skull (without Zero, dont have him yet) moreso than Infinaut and that cannot be correct I pretty much never play Infinaut, there's just never a situation where skipping t5 is worth it to play him vs just giving his power to Dracula or (if I don't draw Drac) making other plays.
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Tender Bender posted:I pretty much never play Infinaut, there's just never a situation where skipping t5 is worth it to play him vs just giving his power to Dracula or (if I don't draw Drac) making other plays. Agree with this. Infinaut is only there to fuel Drac and as a panic option if nothing else comes along. Skull on 5 into whatever else on 6 is a fine line to play. Skull's downside isn't even that bad. Worst case, he's a 5/7 which is still a decent T5 play and way better than skipping outright. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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Ok cool so im playing correct for the most part then. Also ironically I was just killmongered trying to play the alternate way i was thinking lol
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JackDarko posted:Yup, you may need to change your mindset from wanting to win to wanting to learn. You’ll face a lot of decks and can take note of which you thought were the coolest. From there, you can head toward building that. Is there a way to see the opponent’s deck after a match, without keeping track of the cards they played yourself?
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the_american_dream posted:Question for you and other Drac-Zoo friends. Are you frequently skipping turn 5 or is that typically only when you miss Drac? Having a lot of success climbing since I started actually playing this deck right but im finding myself playing Red Skull (without Zero, dont have him yet) moreso than Infinaut and that cannot be correct I don't have red skull so I threw in she-hulk for when I miss drac but have infinaut. Idk if it's mathematically optimal but every so often that surprise 30 on 6 from a zoo deck gets a big cube win. Re your second question: I'm just parroting top card players but usually you want to just play your best line and if they hard-counter, welp you fold/retreat. "Don't beat yourself" is often the quote
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I just bit the bullet and bought my first S4 card, Absorbing Man, from the token shop. Zero regrets so far; he made my homebrew Zabu/Surfer/Negative deck feel way more consistent. Deck list below; I've used this from 40 to 54 so far this season. Prior to Absorbing Man that slot was taken by Spider-Man, who was useful as a tech card but felt bad whenever you wanted Sera on turn 5 (which is whenever you have Sera in hand on turn 5).quote:# (2) Psylocke This deck has pretty good matchups across the board, but can never beat a Leech, which is why your Lockjaw opponent will always pull a Leech from Lockjaw+Wasp on turn 3.
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I think Abs Man is maybe the second-best all-around S4 card after She-Hulk, so a fine pickup. He's also likely to continue improving as they release more cards with powerful On Reveal effects.
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In general people are way too hesitant to snap or retreat in this game. If you've got what your deck wants to do in hand you should snap. If you're about to reveal a big turnaround play you should snap. Better to snap early and get countered to retreat then try and snap turn 5/6 and they retreat, giving you only one cube.
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PJOmega posted:In general, people are way too hesitant to snap or retreat in this game. You're totally right in that I only climb when I snap or retreat intelligently. I’m also OK paying cubes sometimes to learn how a deck beats mine. When I use a new deck, I tend not to snap or retreat as often so I can learn where I win and where I lose.
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 That is probably the best Enchantress hit I'm going to ever get. To add insult to injury, Grand Central pulled the Debrii from his hand at the end of the turn and pulled my Kazaar. Honesty don't blame him if he uninstalls the game
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JackDarko posted:You're totally right in that I only climb when I snap or retreat intelligently. Yeah, sometimes I'm like, okay they snapped and seem confident they can win but I don't see how, it's worth 2-4 cubes just to see what the play is. It's a game after all.
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