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trunkh posted:Can you elaborate on this? I bounced of EOD hard so this sounds like something I'm missing out on Globalization allows you to buy 5 Antique Summoning Stones (rear end) from a vendor in Arborstone per week using various currencies from EoD. You need a hundred of them for the new legendaries and they're tradeable, so they sell for a good amount of gold on the TP (they were like 15g apiece in February, now they're 4-5). Jade bots have an upgrade that turns some of the junk items dropped from mobs into trophy materials, which is a nice passive gold boost. Also you get the fun message "Your jade bot just recycled some junk!" when you kill somebody in WvW sometimes.
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Thanks for the salvage tips. The whole what to salvage and when to open unids is... not exactly clear. I think I've heard a dozen different opinions on it so far. The Teapot guy was throwing all his on the TP so that's what I've been doing. This may/may not be wrong. It's good to know I can skip the expensive silver/runecrafters, though! ptroll posted:Globalization allows you to buy 5 Antique Summoning Stones (rear end) from a vendor in Arborstone per week using various currencies from EoD. You need a hundred of them for the new legendaries and they're tradeable, so they sell for a good amount of gold on the TP (they were like 15g apiece in February, now they're 4-5). ^ This is the kind of info that's really useful to me, so danke. I really need to get my rear end to Arborstone, so that's tonight's mission. Most of this stuff makes sense after the fact (ie, "Go do RIBA") but something like "Go do EoD" or "<map name> is good farming" leaves out the bit about why you'd want to do it. If I got into the EoD zones tonight I'd have never have known about the summoning stones. Edit: Not having a dig at anyone here in particular. That's just generally the format the internet puts it in. Same with groups in the LFG menu, etc. Mailer fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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The biggest way you can mess up unid items is salvaging them before opening them. Unid boxes have a chance at upgrading to higher tiers (blue -> green or even higher) when you open them and you lose out on that if you salvage them directly. Selling them on the TP vs opening and salvaging after are close enough that it comes down to preference of squeezing out value vs convenience. whydirt fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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ptroll posted:Also you get the fun message "Your jade bot just recycled some junk!" when you kill somebody in WvW sometimes. I'm glad I'm not the only one amused by this.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:If you didn't care about doing the story in order, what would you say is the optimal route of unlocking the game and masteries to get the most important stuff unlocked on a fresh account? How long would you estimate does one full EoD story run on one character take and how much more per character I'd want the Jade Bot on after that?
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You don't need to do the story again to get a jade bot on another character. You do have to schlep all the way to Cantha, though, because that's where the jade bot workshop benches are. And apparently guild halls.
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Luggage posted:How long would you estimate does one full EoD story run on one character take and how much more per character I'd want the Jade Bot on after that? Jade bot cores and the other 2 upgrades are only account-bound and can be shuffled between characters, like gathering tools and most ascended gear. You just need to go somewhere with a workbench, like SFD guildhall or the crafters area on the second floor of Arborstone
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Just downloaded the game and got to level 30 and feel a bit lacking in terms of direction of what to do, I picked Necromancer with a specialisation in my minions and have been fun so far, but should I just be fully completing every map as I go along? Also, the time on my mount seems to be running out, is there any way of getting another after that apart from spending money?
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No, you are doing it right. Just run around, explore the maps (don't complete them unless you really want to, you can always do it later), do hearts/dynamic events you come across, maybe a bit of the personal story here and there(though the base game story has not aged well at all, sadly), level up. You could also try PvP - it's normalized, you don't need any gear for it. As for the mount, no, you need to buy the expansion to have permanent access. The f2p account is really just an extended trial.
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Samael posted:Just downloaded the game and got to level 30 and feel a bit lacking in terms of direction of what to do, I picked Necromancer with a specialisation in my minions and have been fun so far, but should I just be fully completing every map as I go along? Also, the time on my mount seems to be running out, is there any way of getting another after that apart from spending money? Yup, you'll need to buy Path of Fire (the mount expansion) to have it permanently. Expansion content is real money only and mounts are expansion content. This isn't a "you can do it all from f2p" deal. It's, as someone else here put it, a very generous demo for the real game.
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Luggage posted:I've been trying to at least play HoT story through EoD in order, but reading this I regret owning EoD but not having touched it at all so far. My story progression entered LWS4E4 (Jahai Bluffs?) a few months back and died there. I would just recommend taking a single character through the EoD story and work on collecting masteries and just showing up to the metas and map exploration for exp, kaineng meta is especially good to just stack every exp boosting item and plow through every mastery fast, dragon's end is 20g+ for each clear but takes a long time commitment and luck to get into a good commanded map, seitung is a 2g amber reward and a lot of events. Once you max out arborstone you get globalization for a easy 30g a week and max rank Jade bot is handy too, get a tier 6 or higher bot core and scavenging trophies for bonus loot while doing other stuff.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I would just recommend taking a single character through the EoD story and work on collecting masteries and just showing up to the metas and map exploration for exp, kaineng meta is especially good to just stack every exp boosting item and plow through every mastery fast, dragon's end is 20g+ for each clear but takes a long time commitment and luck to get into a good commanded map, seitung is a 2g amber reward and a lot of events. Is there a guide for doing these things, other than looking up each individual thing on the wiki? The things people are describing feel enormous and impossible to sort through. I would like to do some of them but I can't even imagine where to start. When I start hitting the wiki, it's a lot of work to translate those pages into usable, actionable information. I end up alt-tabbed for 20+ minutes and end up giving up to do more hearts in beginner zones, or closing the game and opening something I can readily understand Like in this post alone I would need to look up metas, kaineing, stacking exp boosts, dragons end, what a "commanded map" is, seitung, amber, arborstone, globalization, bot core and scavenging trophies, and each one of those pages has the potential to require even more pages to understand them
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big cummers ONLY posted:Is there a guide for doing these things, other than looking up each individual thing on the wiki? The things people are describing feel enormous and impossible to sort through. I would like to do some of them but I can't even imagine where to start. When I start hitting the wiki, it's a lot of work to translate those pages into usable, actionable information. I end up alt-tabbed for 20+ minutes and end up giving up to do more hearts in beginner zones, or closing the game and opening something I can readily understand Like most things you'll learn the keywords as you play. Most of this is referring to max-level stuff in End of Dragons, like Seitung or Kaineng are just names of zones. But meta is kind of important. Metas are basically zone-wide events that build out of smaller ones and can drastically change how a map is played for a period. Some maps are designed to be basically one dynamic event, usually leading up to an expansion finale, and others have cycles drifting between two periods of different gameplay (like a day-night cycle.) If you've done any of the human zones with centaurs, you may have noticed how some waypoints shift availability depending on if the Seraph or the Centaurs hold the area as the result of passing/failing events. Metas can be like that on a map-wide scale. A lot of metas, primarily ones like Dragon's End (the final map to End of Dragons) will have players who designate themselves as Commanders. They're basically self-appointed raid leaders to organize everyone on the map and coordinate victory. Some of these feel more required than others, but generally commander tags just give marks for people to flock to and consolidate numbers. You can usually see a commander on the map with a colored symbol (that may or may not be shaped like a cat). But again these are usually only on max-level maps, so you probably don't see them all that often if you're hanging out in Queensdale or so. If you haven't already, join GOON! We're all usually bouncing around in guild chat and eager to answer questions or help guide someone.
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Thanks for that! I do ask questions in GOON but sometimes I feel like I don't want to because it will still lead to either me asking a billion more questions, or embarking on another wikiquest. Honestly I am enjoying the game just stumbling through it. But reading posts describing these efficient early things I could be knocking out first, for good rewards that will enrich play further, gives me some FOMO that feels tough to beat when I can't understand what's happening. I'm willing to admit it's a "me" problem, I had the same problem with Warframe and the only thing that saved me in that game was finding step-by-step guides for new accounts
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Yes join guilds, you get a discount on waypoint usage, a free 10% or so boost to gold, karma, exp, etc. and free daily gathering nodes for a bunch of things. Also probably the most convenient jade bot workbench. Only thing that's kind of annoying is since the guild hall is an instance it clears your jade bot battery buffs. So does Misklock Sanctuary, btw, they ever plan on addressing that?
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Another thing about commander icons, clicking on the icon on the map allows you to join the squad. No need to ask in zone chat for an invite (for the most part; there are commanders that don’t have their squads open)
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Literally everything listed there for "efficiency" is locked behind expansions and level 80, so you shouldn't stress about doing any of that while leveling.
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Also, since there's no real gear progression past exotic / ascended, you shouldn't feel like you're missing out or behind the curve. Almost all the goals to be had in the game should be done at your own pace, and if you're having fun with it. I've been slowly working on getting full legendary armor + trinkets on all three armor classes but even I don't bother doing all the high efficiency farming, it'll happen when it happens.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I would just recommend taking a single character through the EoD story and work on collecting masteries and just showing up to the metas and map exploration for exp, kaineng meta is especially good to just stack every exp boosting item and plow through every mastery fast, dragon's end is 20g+ for each clear but takes a long time commitment and luck to get into a good commanded map, seitung is a 2g amber reward and a lot of events. big cummers ONLY posted:Thanks for that! I do ask questions in GOON but sometimes I feel like I don't want to because it will still lead to either me asking a billion more questions, or embarking on another wikiquest. The good thing is: game is healthy and almost all group content alive. You miss literally nothing if you discover or integrate a certain activity a few months sooner or later. As an example, I know there are chests I could open daily that are located in zones I do own, but haven't set foot in yet. Some require masteries I haven't even unlocked yet. There are vendors I haven't unlocked that sell me stuff I could resell for a profit. Or some of the meta events mentioned above. If you want to have a glimpse at the potential firehose of activities you could stress out over (but shouldn't), check out the full schedule at gw2timer.com. Then realize what madness that would be and relax. Also, when a seasonal event is on try to understand what it's about and which parts you care for. There's decent gold, skins and sometimes stat selectable exotic gear to be had without going bonkers and grinding it 24/7 like some people do.
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The game has the most extensive wiki I've ever seen for a game and on top of that there is a ingame /wiki command that I wish every large game stole you should use often on anything that you are the slightest bit curious about because the wiki will have detailed info about every aspect and possibly even a guide for whatever it is or will point you right to that last hidden collectable you are 49/50 on.
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One other thing I'll mention is that this week spirit vale is the emboldened raid wing, which means every time you fail you will get 10% more damage/defense stacking up to 5 times, more then enough to compensate for any gear problems and dps checks on fights and turns any mechanic that doesn't outright wipe the group into something ignorable and is a pretty good introduction to raiding since it's the very first one. If half of these apply to you:
Then congratulations you are better then the average player and can beat raid bosses, the only hard part is finding 9 other people through the LFG or raid lfg discords who also want to do it and fill every role.
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I have the 2nd post of the OP reserved for "what is this, how do I start, and how do I do it" instructions. Not that it ever gets read, but if anyone would like to provide some newbie-friendly instructions to an aspect of the game, let me know and I'll shove it in there. Otherwise I'll keep slowly revising and revising and redoing and revising and redoing and revising what I have in my notes.
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Could probably use a link to mukluk labs. I'm not a fan of his "humour" but found his videos very useful when getting into the game, and his get-to-the-point series on raids is invaluable: https://mukluklabs.com/gw2 And Hardstuck is a great resource for builds and written guides for all game modes: https://hardstuck.gg/ Also I didn't see a link to [fast], which is useful if you want to work out the most profitable thing to do: https://fast.farming-community.eu/
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[fast] is a goddamn treasure because the gw2 folklore kept saying you should be grinding loving RIBA in silverwastes 24/7 to make cash at a reasonable pace but then these people did actual benchmarks and it turns out the best/most fun content in the game is often also the most profitable, it's just not as consistent because the meta chains can take time
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Hyperlynx posted:You don't need to do the story again to get a jade bot on another character. GOON has a bench in the guild hall. There are multiple guild halls - each expac (well - HoT got 2 ghalls) has their own location. You can use the ghall as a short cut to that expac's zone too. You want to get to Vabbi and have GOON? Go to goon's ghall, and head north, that will take you out there. SFD has EoD's and you just go to the boat and that takes you to to EoD's map iirc. HoT has two different ghalls - one takes you out in the first map, the other one in the second map. You can buy a jade bot off the trading post for alts. Do you really need them for alts? vov To actually get to the ghall - just open your guild panel, and hit the guild hall button. To switch between guild halls if you're part of multiple guilds, just select the guild you want, guild hall. Note - they need to be in different locations for that to work. So if you're the GOON ghall and want to go to another PoF guild hall, you would need to leave the goon one, and then open up your guild panel again, select that guild, guild hall. You don't have to change your rep to harvest nodes from other guilds but you do have to change your rep to talk to npcs/guild bank/etc.
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For what it's worth, about the mount-trial-running-out business: the content you're playing now was never designed for mounts anyway  They only got introduced in the second expansion. Before that, we all had to run everywhere ourselves. When they invented mounts and let us use them in the previous areas, it was (for me, at least) totally unexpected and a delightful bonus. They did go back and make some spots no-mount zones, to stop people bypassing jumping puzzles, but there's still a shitton of (essentially) minor sequence breaks in Central Tyria maps made possible by the springer. Vistas in particular are WAAAAY easier to reach. Anyway, my point is that without mounts you're actually getting the authentic experience, as it was designed for. (If that does anything for you. Not to say mounts aren't incredibly convenient, and beat the pants off having to keep casting quickness!)
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This works on my "core Tyria only" alt account, so if you are on a free account try this. When your 10h trial runs out, make a new throwaway character and level it to level 10. With an optimized route in Queensdale and going for as many Adventure Guide Vol 1 achievements as possible, that takes 15-20 minutes. Once that character dings level 10, the symbol for the mount trial will pop up (hourglass.with a circular arrow around it). Don't use it! Log back to the high level account you want to have the mount on. Like daily achievements and some other achievements, the mount trail is account bound, not character bound. Meaning you can only unlock it on characters that haven't used one, but redeem it on any character. You'll have to repeat it every 10 hours, but if you are on a free account you should do the weekly key farm anyway, which unlocking new raptors will be a byproduct of. Luggage fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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Luggage posted:This works on my "core Tyria only" alt account, so if you are on a free account try this. When your 10h trial runs out, make a new throwaway character and level it to level 10. With an optimized route in Queensdale and going for as many Adventure Guide Vol 1 achievements as possible, that takes 15-20 minutes. Once that character dings level 10, the symbol for the mount trial will pop up (hourglass.with a circular arrow around it). Don't use it! Log back to the high level account you want to have the mount on. Like daily achievements and some other achievements, the mount trail is account bound, not character bound. Meaning you can only unlock it on characters that haven't used one, but redeem it on any character. Geez, I mean sure, or you could just spring for $30 for content that cost like $150 total when it came out? Hyperlynx fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Jan 9, 2023 |
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Hyperlynx posted:Geez, I mean sure, or you could just spring for $30 for content that cost like $150 when it came out?
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Was kind of funny earlier yesterday, on the Harvest Temple strike the dragon bite attack ended up killing almost everyone because the target circle indicating it was going to happen soon didn't appear at all lol, not sure how often that happens but hope they fix that at some point in the near future.
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big cummers ONLY posted:Honestly I am enjoying the game just stumbling through it. But reading posts describing these efficient early things I could be knocking out first, for good rewards that will enrich play further, gives me some FOMO that feels tough to beat when I can't understand what's happening. With you on that, and Warframe is an extremely apt comparison. You do the 1-80 thing (or skip it with a booster) that is the equivalent of getting through War Within, then literally the entire game unlocks and every individual part of it is its own progression. Also much like Warframe a lot of those progression tracks stop at some point. Everyone who started before you is flying around on a custom-skinned dragon and yelling out acronym soup. It's a goddamn confusing mess caused by a decade of content and you're going to spend a ton of time on the wiki trying to find stuff out, but in the end you'll get it and start pushing forward towards what you want (which is always gold here) and ticking all the boxes off until you're one of the people who has done most of the things and is now in pursuit of a 0.1% power increase and silly cosmetics... just like Warframe. IIRC you're not really into grouping, but if you ever want a [GOON] who is just as lost to go do things then Maichler is down.  Things I learned this week: * I've bitched constantly about how strikes are never in LFG. I arrived in the EoD starting point, mistakenly click on the wrong NPC, and find out you can just queue for public strikes.  * I seem to have become the person explaining fractals despite having done like maybe a dozen. I don't think I've typed into a chat system in any game this much since vanilla WoW. Maybe it's just years of videogames but all the puzzles and mechanics seem pretty self-explanatory. Everyone in T1 fractals is super chill. * You can click on a commander tag on the map, which I learned just now a few posts above. This will make actually doing metas a thing instead of having to be there at the perfect time. * In big zerg swarms for a public event, ALWAYS tag the big beefy boss or the mobs that come to attack the escort or whatever quest-relevant enemies exist. Otherwise you don't get credit. Conversely, if you've already done a bunch of damage to the boss/mobs, maybe hang a bit and don't be a dick who deletes everything asap before anyone else can even react. * August anniversary is when the Living World expansions go on big sales in the gem store. I plan on collecting gems when they're cheap-ish and blowing them all then. Also everything (I think?) in the gem store goes on sale so that kind of applies everywhere. * I should be farming a free black lion key every week. Edit: * EoD has its own dailies, so I've missed out on like 20 gold just from not starting it. Also there's a waypoint automatically unlocked. I am not a smart man. Mailer fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Jan 10, 2023 |
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Mailer posted:* In big zerg swarms for a public event, ALWAYS tag the big beefy boss or the mobs that come to attack the escort or whatever quest-relevant enemies exist. Otherwise you don't get credit. Conversely, if you've already done a bunch of damage to the boss/mobs, maybe hang a bit and don't be a dick who deletes everything asap before anyone else can even react. As far as I can tell, the key to getting kill credit is to use anything besides the auto-attack. Hit them with the mount's engage or weapon skills 2-5. Autoattacking after that is fine
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Anyone else crashing after this last patch when entering Divinity's Reach or Misklock? Happening to me every time now.
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Actuarial Fables posted:I have the 2nd post of the OP reserved for "what is this, how do I start, and how do I do it" instructions. Not that it ever gets read, but if anyone would like to provide some newbie-friendly instructions to an aspect of the game, let me know and I'll shove it in there. I'd add in advice to unbind "double move to dodge" and make your dodge key something very easy like a mouse thumb button. A lot of stuff can be bound better but dodging is such a big part of combat that it seems especially egregious.
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Humerus posted:I'd add in advice to unbind "double move to dodge" and make your dodge key something very easy like a mouse thumb button.
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I got used to it after playing with double tap to dodge since beta, but yeah you have to live with rarely rolling off a platform to your death, so at least mention it as an option 
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"You will, in addition to wasd/dodge/jump movement, have 17-23 keys you need to bind and hit with perfect timing while also moving and reacting to the rest of the screen." It's not very newbie-friendly, but it's true. I had my eye on healy druid and some sort of mesmer (mainly for portals to help people, but still) but after looking at their weapon swaps and extended rotations I ran away. I think being yet another Firebrand may be the limit of my utility and even that requires managing cooldowns on two bars.  Unrelated, but LFG is really really weird. Half the time I see strikes/fractals advertised as needing healers, half the time needing dps. If anything the latter is more prominent (in my admittedly small sample size) and that's strange in an MMO. Also in the Mordremoth meta train I did last night I seemed to be one of the very few people healing others. It's expected in pubbie groups, but still seems a little off. Also had a raid pop up in training lfg last night. Leader was super cool, and we cruised through the first boss, but after that in a movement/puzzle segment I'm guessing some people fell behind and we wiped. Then three people bailed and two followed, because by god if there's anything to expect from a training-tagged raid it's professionals that clear it for you.
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You might be interested in low intensity or LI builds, I know mirage mesmer can hit respectable dps with a 1 button rotation, even as a old time player they are nice for consistency, learning new encounters without overloading my brain on rotations or just saving my hands the piano practice. Reason why you see the advertisement for dps more than healers is that you need 3.5 dps for every 1 healer, in easy open world stuff you can generally use numbers over group comps to get things done or the damage isn't so severe that it requires healing over just more dps to get it done faster. And yeah, people will flake out of groups at the drop of a hat without a word frequently at the slightest setback, even if it was close to won, it can be annoying. Once you do your first raid boss it will unlock a collection that is rather long with some hard steps, but at the end of it is a full suit of ascended armor of your choice of type and stats and then unlocks a second collection for a second full suit of ascended armor that acts as the precursor to legendary armor. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jan 10, 2023 |
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