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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


bull3964 posted:

So you're done at 2 right?

actually yes
sometimes earlier

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KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


I have a my first meeting and thing I have to do today in 2 minutes. I plan on ending my day in 32 minutes.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


KillHour posted:

I have a my first meeting and thing I have to do today in 2 minutes. I plan on ending my day in 32 minutes.

Name/post combo

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Potato Salad posted:

Name/post combo

I've gotten faster at my job with experience but KillHalfHour isn't as pithy.

Edit: KillQuarterHour now, apparently. Peace out.

KillHour fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Jan 9, 2023

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
In a zoom meeting where they had the idea of putting a condenser mic in the middle of the room so the whole room could be heard but the mic is so sensitive that it spikes everytime anyone in the room talks lol. This is terrible.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Rick posted:

In a zoom meeting where they had the idea of putting a condenser mic in the middle of the room so the whole room could be heard but the mic is so sensitive that it spikes everytime anyone in the room talks lol. This is terrible.

This sounds like some exec tried to cheap their conference room with standard desktop mics, got pissed at the sound quality, and instead of doing the right thing and hiring a sound designer sent the intern to guitar center.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


You need all sorts of beam forming tricks and processing to make conference room audio work. I have a very small amount of past AV experience, mainly in live stuff, and commissioned a Yamaha Adecia system the other day. Everything is PoE and uses Dante for the audio routing, it's pretty much plug-and-play, is Teams certified, and when you have it all configured it plays a load of sounds through the speakers to EQ the room, like Sonos speakers and your home AV receiver does. 10/10 would buy again.

Also the C-level like having audio hardware with a Yamaha logo on, it makes it feel like whatever happens your choice of equipment wasn't the problem.

Fragrag
Aug 3, 2007
The Worst Admin Ever bashes You in the head with his banhammer. It is smashed into the body, an unrecognizable mass! You have been struck down.

Rick posted:

In a zoom meeting where they had the idea of putting a condenser mic in the middle of the room so the whole room could be heard but the mic is so sensitive that it spikes everytime anyone in the room talks lol. This is terrible.

How did that not end up in horrible feedback? Or did they have some poor sap muting and unmuting the microphone

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Currently trying to explain to someone in sales that if a prospective client doesn't know what they want, doesn't know what they have, and aren't prepared to pay for the time needed to first find out what they have and then spend time with them to figure out what they want, that it's not actually possible to provide a quote.

:waycool:

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Thanks Ants posted:

Currently trying to explain to someone in sales that if a prospective client doesn't know what they want, doesn't know what they have, and aren't prepared to pay for the time needed to first find out what they have and then spend time with them to figure out what they want, that it's not actually possible to provide a quote.

:waycool:

Having worked for a software company that dealt heavily with federal contracts and bids, you can absolutely close 7 figure deals where the customer has no idea what they want or why.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Provide a quote for loving around and finding out and tell them that the final product will be another quote for the actual work they need done?

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Arquinsiel posted:

Provide a quote for loving around and finding out and tell them that the final product will be another quote for the actual work they need done?

There is an entire industry around doing exactly that, it's called consulting. "Business process audit" "Workplace realignment initiative".

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
That's why I think it's the right play here.

Raymond T. Racing
Jun 11, 2019

Thanks Ants posted:

You need all sorts of beam forming tricks and processing to make conference room audio work. I have a very small amount of past AV experience, mainly in live stuff, and commissioned a Yamaha Adecia system the other day. Everything is PoE and uses Dante for the audio routing, it's pretty much plug-and-play, is Teams certified, and when you have it all configured it plays a load of sounds through the speakers to EQ the room, like Sonos speakers and your home AV receiver does. 10/10 would buy again.

Also the C-level like having audio hardware with a Yamaha logo on, it makes it feel like whatever happens your choice of equipment wasn't the problem.

https://owllabs.com/products/meeting-owl-3

My old company used this in a conference room, and it was great

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!
I've used an Owl too, they're pretty great.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
My ISP is doing a very helpful "network upgrade" in my area so of course my service has gone to poo poo. Been offline for a few hours already today and trying to stall telework long enough to avoid having to drive somewhere with wifi.

Combine that with a lovely cell signal in my house and you have the recipe for Utter Boredom.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.
I've been entertaining myself by applying to jobs, in a not-really-interested-just-looking-thanks kind of way and I am completely gobsmacked by how many job application portals want my home addres and social security number.

Seriously?

You want me to give you all this personal detail over a web portal just to apply to your stupid company? In what world do you think that it's okay to collect SSNs from potential applicants? You can have that info when I am hired and am filling out my tax information. Not one minute before.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Agrikk posted:

I've been entertaining myself by applying to jobs, in a not-really-interested-just-looking-thanks kind of way and I am completely gobsmacked by how many job application portals want my home addres and social security number.

Seriously?

You want me to give you all this personal detail over a web portal just to apply to your stupid company? In what world do you think that it's okay to collect SSNs from potential applicants? You can have that info when I am hired and am filling out my tax information. Not one minute before.

It's so they can run a background and credit check on you, as per the clause hidden on page 23 of the 50 page agreement you hit 'I accept' in order to start the application process.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.
I sure hope they enjoy looking me up by my SSN of 111-11-1111 and address of 123 4th Street.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

Thanks Ants posted:

You need all sorts of beam forming tricks and processing to make conference room audio work. I have a very small amount of past AV experience, mainly in live stuff, and commissioned a Yamaha Adecia system the other day. Everything is PoE and uses Dante for the audio routing, it's pretty much plug-and-play, is Teams certified, and when you have it all configured it plays a load of sounds through the speakers to EQ the room, like Sonos speakers and your home AV receiver does. 10/10 would buy again.

Also the C-level like having audio hardware with a Yamaha logo on, it makes it feel like whatever happens your choice of equipment wasn't the problem.

I'm working on a site that is going to be a nightmare for, well basically everything, but especially for audio in their conference room.
They want open ceilings everywhere, only limited suspended ceiling tiles. They also don't want visible cables. We can't run things in the floor as the floor slab is very thin, and the max conduit is 3/4". Can't wait for the AV company to figure this out.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
Consultant: I don't think roaming profiles are the solution to your remote desktop temp profile issues *brought up out of nowhere*
Me: Yeah you're right that would be a pretty bad idea given how people use our computers and how distributed we are and we have users that will never learn to stop storing things on their desktop.
Consultant: Glad we agree about this thing.
*Tickets that sound suspiciously like someone enabled roaming profiles*.
Consultant: . . . .

Paladine_PSoT posted:

This sounds like some exec tried to cheap their conference room with standard desktop mics, got pissed at the sound quality, and instead of doing the right thing and hiring a sound designer sent the intern to guitar center.

Funny enough, we had a meeting about how sucky the meetings they host were the other day and the CEO is like "all right I guess we need to spend the money Rick said to spend two years ago" and then the line staff member is like "actually...how about I hang a condenser mic on a cable in the middle of the room instead. Let's at least try that first" and of course that was that.

Fragrag posted:

How did that not end up in horrible feedback? Or did they have some poor sap muting and unmuting the microphone

It did. They didn't know they had me muted for the first half of the meeting and then someone was like "oh unmute the sound" before I could protest and get the headphones off.

Thanks Ants posted:

You need all sorts of beam forming tricks and processing to make conference room audio work. I have a very small amount of past AV experience, mainly in live stuff, and commissioned a Yamaha Adecia system the other day. Everything is PoE and uses Dante for the audio routing, it's pretty much plug-and-play, is Teams certified, and when you have it all configured it plays a load of sounds through the speakers to EQ the room, like Sonos speakers and your home AV receiver does. 10/10 would buy again.

Also the C-level like having audio hardware with a Yamaha logo on, it makes it feel like whatever happens your choice of equipment wasn't the problem.

This sounds cool.

Buff Hardback posted:

https://owllabs.com/products/meeting-owl-3

My old company used this in a conference room, and it was great

When we wrote a grant to try to pay for the room, this was actually on the list of stuff to get. We did not get that grant though.

Rick fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jan 12, 2023

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Agrikk posted:

I've been entertaining myself by applying to jobs, in a not-really-interested-just-looking-thanks kind of way and I am completely gobsmacked by how many job application portals want my home addres and social security number.

Seriously?

You want me to give you all this personal detail over a web portal just to apply to your stupid company? In what world do you think that it's okay to collect SSNs from potential applicants? You can have that info when I am hired and am filling out my tax information. Not one minute before.

And another thing! ~gestures sloppily with his beer from his barcalounger~

Companies that advertise on indeed that require you to "apply to our employment web site":

1. with a link to the landing page of the main web site so I have to hunt for the jobs section and the position title itself
2. whose jobs portal requires me to create a username and password before I can apply

Fuckers, no. My application process needs to be as frictionless as possible so that my application velocity matches the speed at which you can hit delete and send my application into the trash.

"But we want people who are passionate about our business!" they cry. "People who want to work here will go through the effort of registering on our site!"

"I'm passionate about a paycheck. Don't delude yourself."

I'm looking at you Palmer College of Chiropractic.
I'm looking at you Cognitive Medical Systems.
I'm looking at you Cache Creek Casino.
I'm looking at you Summit Heating and Cooling.

Like, gently caress yeah I'm really passionate about the HVAC industry as an IT professional and plan on repeatedly applying to Summit Heating and Cooling opportunities until I get in there.


/rant

This is no longer entertaining.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

Agrikk posted:

And another thing! ~gestures sloppily with his beer from his barcalounger~

Companies that advertise on indeed that require you to "apply to our employment web site":

1. with a link to the landing page of the main web site so I have to hunt for the jobs section and the position title itself
2. whose jobs portal requires me to create a username and password before I can apply

Fuckers, no. My application process needs to be as frictionless as possible so that my application velocity matches the speed at which you can hit delete and send my application into the trash.

"But we want people who are passionate about our business!" they cry. "People who want to work here will go through the effort of registering on our site!"

"I'm passionate about a paycheck. Don't delude yourself."

I'm looking at you Palmer College of Chiropractic.
I'm looking at you Cognitive Medical Systems.
I'm looking at you Cache Creek Casino.
I'm looking at you Summit Heating and Cooling.

Like, gently caress yeah I'm really passionate about the HVAC industry as an IT professional and plan on repeatedly applying to Summit Heating and Cooling opportunities until I get in there.


/rant

This is no longer entertaining.


bUT nO ONe wANtS tO WoRK AnYMorE!!!

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


Super-NintendoUser posted:


bUT nO ONe wANtS tO WoRK AnYMorE!!!

Yeah all the twenty year old millennials are so lazy! Why by 20 I already owned a house and was well on my way to purchasing a vacation house, and they can't even work hard enough to make rent for a lovely apartment!

fuckin millennials

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Agrikk posted:

Fuckers, no. My application process needs to be as frictionless as possible so that my application velocity matches the speed at which you can hit delete and send my application into the trash.
This is the best goddamn way to put it.

Also, every single site scrapes my resume differently and none of them get it all correct. Sometimes they invent words that I didn't even have in there, or get dates entirely wrong, and sometimes it's "just" dropping half of the jobs and putting the other half's descriptions in the wrong place. My resume isn't even complicated! I specifically made it as easy to scrape as possible!

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Buff Hardback posted:

https://owllabs.com/products/meeting-owl-3

My old company used this in a conference room, and it was great

We have one, it's amazing.

thewizardofshoe
Feb 24, 2013

We have a few OWLs to use as a fallback for our conference room setups not working, and honestly it's just better than our AV setups lol.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

SyNack Sassimov posted:

Yeah all the twenty year old millennials are so lazy! Why by 20 I already owned a house and was well on my way to purchasing a vacation house, and they can't even work hard enough to make rent for a lovely apartment!

fuckin millennials

We had a third party trainer in this week to do some OSHA classes and in addition to the OSHA stuff we learned that:

Nobody wants to work anymore

Human traffickers are putting zip ties on the car door handles of targets for kidnapping they’ve identified

Drug dealers are wrapping up fentanyl in $1 and $5 dollar bills and leaving them on the sidewalk for children to find/ to kill policemen

I finally scoffed at that one and said nobody is giving away fentanyl and the trainer insisted it was true, they saw it on Facebook

Weedle
May 31, 2006




i keep hearing "nobody wants to work anymore" but i struggle to recall a period of time during which we all loved working

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Agrikk posted:

And another thing! ~gestures sloppily with his beer from his barcalounger~

Companies that advertise on indeed that require you to "apply to our employment web site":

1. with a link to the landing page of the main web site so I have to hunt for the jobs section and the position title itself
2. whose jobs portal requires me to create a username and password before I can apply

Fuckers, no. My application process needs to be as frictionless as possible so that my application velocity matches the speed at which you can hit delete and send my application into the trash.

"But we want people who are passionate about our business!" they cry. "People who want to work here will go through the effort of registering on our site!"

"I'm passionate about a paycheck. Don't delude yourself."

I'm looking at you Palmer College of Chiropractic.
I'm looking at you Cognitive Medical Systems.
I'm looking at you Cache Creek Casino.
I'm looking at you Summit Heating and Cooling.

Like, gently caress yeah I'm really passionate about the HVAC industry as an IT professional and plan on repeatedly applying to Summit Heating and Cooling opportunities until I get in there.


/rant

This is no longer entertaining.

Let me give you an comparison: You know those emails that are horribly mis-spelled promising money from Nigerian princes, that you can't believe anybody would fall for? This is the exact same type of filter. These companies are deliberately selecting for workers who will do arbitrary work without question and for little to no compensation. They don't want employees that think, or that are capable of reason, or anything like that. They want obedient and cheap, or at least desperate and cheap.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
I’ve loving had it with the lovely infosec engineer that all he does is fling tickets over the wall from Nessus/rapid7/etc scans.

He sent one to the desktop team to gently caress with tls and the cipher suites. Thankfully they only rolled it out to a pilot group of ~100 laptops, because it entirely hosed up the ability of the machines to communicate with azure ad for auth, intune, outlook, everything after reboot.

Two days of my life gone helping the desktop team troubleshoot and getting them sorted out to push a config back to default on the machines that hadn’t rebooted yet to get hosed.

Does this motherfucker show up to help in any way shape or form? Not at all. gently caress him.

Captain Toasted
Jan 3, 2009

thewizardofshoe posted:

We have a few OWLs to use as a fallback for our conference room setups not working, and honestly it's just better than our AV setups lol.

We are using 2 of them linked together instead of the purpose built AV system we have in our main board room. They work and the olds can run them (cause they don't have to do anything)

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
My last job search involved applying for a single job.
The previous job I didn’t apply for and I was recruited.
The job before that I got from nepotism.

Highly recommended to get jobs this way.

zokie
Feb 13, 2006

Out of many, Sweden
What pisses me if about all these infosec people is that they just say: you can’t do that!

But they never suggest a solution to the problem people have been solving using the “forbidden” thing. So when we suggest an alternative way of doing things the answer to if it will be OK or not is: implement it and we will rescan, if you can fool the scanner it’s OK

From our monitoring we can see all the weird requests the scanner sends and it seems to be the same things in the same order every time. We are so loving close to just using that to know when to run in “compliant mode” and then when the scanner stops go back to normal operations.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


zokie posted:

What pisses me if about all these infosec people is that they just say: you can’t do that!

But they never suggest a solution to the problem people have been solving using the “forbidden” thing. So when we suggest an alternative way of doing things the answer to if it will be OK or not is: implement it and we will rescan, if you can fool the scanner it’s OK

From our monitoring we can see all the weird requests the scanner sends and it seems to be the same things in the same order every time. We are so loving close to just using that to know when to run in “compliant mode” and then when the scanner stops go back to normal operations.

you work for volkswagen dont you

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

devmd01 posted:

I’ve loving had it with the lovely infosec engineer that all he does is fling tickets over the wall from Nessus/rapid7/etc scans.

He sent one to the desktop team to gently caress with tls and the cipher suites. Thankfully they only rolled it out to a pilot group of ~100 laptops, because it entirely hosed up the ability of the machines to communicate with azure ad for auth, intune, outlook, everything after reboot.

Two days of my life gone helping the desktop team troubleshoot and getting them sorted out to push a config back to default on the machines that hadn’t rebooted yet to get hosed.

Does this motherfucker show up to help in any way shape or form? Not at all. gently caress him.

What? poo poo like this has to be approved in CAB here, with a risk analysis attached.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Make your application include a header with every response named "private-key" with a randomly generated 256 bit value. Bonus points if you can prove that it's not actually related to security at all, but that your downstream stuff relies on it and you can't change it for legacy reasons.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik

Wibla posted:

What? poo poo like this has to be approved in CAB here, with a risk analysis attached.

The desktop team did put in a CR. The problem was assuming that this guy gave them the right information.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

devmd01 posted:

The desktop team did put in a CR. The problem was assuming that this guy gave them the right information.

:rip:

Assumptions make an rear end out of you and me :haw:

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

zokie posted:

What pisses me if about all these infosec people is that they just say: you can’t do that!

But they never suggest a solution to the problem people have been solving using the “forbidden” thing. So when we suggest an alternative way of doing things the answer to if it will be OK or not is: implement it and we will rescan, if you can fool the scanner it’s OK

From our monitoring we can see all the weird requests the scanner sends and it seems to be the same things in the same order every time. We are so loving close to just using that to know when to run in “compliant mode” and then when the scanner stops go back to normal operations.

As an infosec guy: This is a huge problem. Being the department of no and failing to build relationships and solve problems for your customers is how you kill security teams.

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