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in my first year of uni, back under labour but during the beginnings of the financial crisis my flatmate turned to pick up a laundry basket and dislocated his knee, the ambulance took 2-3 hours to arrive personally I was fine with it as he was a racist oval office who let people into my room when I was out one night, so I just played jack be nimble over his leg while waiting
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Why the gently caress would you get an ambulance for a dislocated knee?
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Jan 10, 2023 22:05
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I was a computer scientist and the only other person there was a business studies student. What were meant to do? Apply the pareto ratio to his shin? Also he was a bit of a heavy lad so I think it did some damage during the fall.
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Jan 10, 2023 22:07
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Rub some dirt on it and make him walk it off like they would have in the blitz
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Jan 10, 2023 22:10
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Ironically I had actually ignored him for the first hour or so of his injury because his shouts of pain genuinely sounded like he was mooing and I figured he was doing Weird poo poo I Didn't Want to Know About and so I just went back to what I was doing.
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Jan 10, 2023 22:15
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Tesseraction posted:I was a computer scientist and the only other person there was a business studies student. What were meant to do? Apply the pareto ratio to his shin? I was just kinda raised with the understanding that ambulances are for life-threatening emergencies. If you gently caress up your knee you can just get a lift to the A&E or a taxi or whatever. British people: soft as pillows
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Jan 10, 2023 22:16
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I think you’re wildly underestimating how bad a dislocated knee can be there guy
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Jan 10, 2023 22:18
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I mean, I don't know how to get someone with a dislocated leg into a car without potentially loving up their leg a bunch more. Like if the bones are not attached together you could rip arteries, nerves, lose the function of the leg or something.
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Jan 10, 2023 22:18
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I mean if he'd dislocated his shoulder sure, but he was a big guy on the sixth floor with a buggered leg. This is likely why it took three hours as triage was basically like "lmao what a pansy"
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Jan 10, 2023 22:19
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I've torn my patellar tendon before. It wasn't enjoyable, but I didn't need an ambulance E: yeah I'm hard
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Jan 10, 2023 22:19
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He was also adamant that we Do Not Touch Him, hence me playing jack be nimble to scare him, as a very supportive flatmate.
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Jan 10, 2023 22:19
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OwlFancier posted:I mean, I don't know how to get someone with a dislocated leg into a car without potentially loving up their leg a bunch more. Poor racist friend, touched a laundry basket and died
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Jan 10, 2023 22:21
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Failed Imagineer posted:E: yeah I'm hard horny on main again Failed Imagineer posted:friend watch your tongue fenian
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Jan 10, 2023 22:24
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I make no value judgement as to the merit of permanently loving up any given person's leg, merely pointing out that it seems like a reasonable possibility if you try to just shove them into a car by yourself. It is an exercise for the reader as to whether this is a desired outcome.
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Jan 10, 2023 22:25
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yeah also neither of us present had a car nor could drive it was also the end of term so basically no-one was around otherwise we'd have gotten the medical student downstairs up
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Jan 10, 2023 22:26
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OwlFancier posted:I make no value judgement as to the merit of permanently loving up any given person's leg, merely pointing out that it seems like a reasonable possibility if you try to just shove them into a car by yourself. It is an exercise for the reader as to whether this is a desired outcome. I imagine they can shove themselves into the car though? You shouldn't really be doing any shoving in these circumstances. If they're unconscious then yeah, call that ambulance. When you think about, the whole process of triage is just deciding that a bunch of people are wimps/lying.
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Jan 10, 2023 22:26
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Friend broke her ankle falling down stairs. Ambulance said 2 hour wait just get a taxi. When the taxi arrived we tried to move her and she screamed her head off and the taxi driver baulked at it and pissed off leaving us to wait for the ambulance anyway. They gassed her up and strapped her down on a trolley like hannibal lector.
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Jan 10, 2023 22:27
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remember tho that he was specifically sitting very still on the floor because every time he tried to move his leg at all the mooing happened again I know I've already said I wasn't very sympathetic but I really do have to reiterate how funny the mooing was
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Jan 10, 2023 22:29
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Failed Imagineer posted:I imagine they can shove themselves into the car though? You shouldn't really be doing any shoving in these circumstances. If they're unconscious then yeah, call that ambulance. I would also suggest that trying to hop your way to the car with a dislocated leg is probably liable to gently caress it up and/or make you keel over in the process. Tesseraction posted:it was also the end of term so basically no-one was around otherwise we'd have gotten the medical student downstairs up Presumably in order to escalate from jack be nimble to saber dancing.
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Jan 10, 2023 22:31
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it'd be like those slavic slap battles but instead we take it in turns to try and penalty kick the leg back into the socket
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Jan 10, 2023 22:40
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That sounds more accurately like the indigenous british sport of shin kicking.
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Jan 10, 2023 22:42
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no no no, the noble art of penalty kicking a foot to ram the leg back into the socket is nothing like the sport of football
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Jan 10, 2023 22:48
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I dislocated my knee once but it popped back in by itself shortly afterwards. the end, no moral
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Jan 11, 2023 00:10
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kecske posted:I dislocated my knee once but it popped back in by itself shortly afterwards. the end, no moral Are you sure it popped back in, or did the pain just fade into the background of life in the UK?
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Jan 11, 2023 00:32
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As someone who has dislocated their knee 4 times and needed an ambulance for it twice I can tell you from experience it really depends on exactly how much it hurts at the time whether you need an ambo or not.
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Jan 11, 2023 00:45
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I used to be volunteer ambuance crew for a medical charity. Dislocated knees get ambulances, to manage pain and reduce the risk of further damage by not stabalizing the injury. In worst case scenarios, the circulation can be cut off to the lower leg or the tendons around the knee ruptured. It's the type of injury that may need surgery. If your criteria for calling an ambulance is 'unconscious' or 'unable to move', then many mild heart attacks wouldn't qualify (they absolutely do, please call an ambulance for a suspected heart attack).
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Jan 11, 2023 01:07
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Usually it depends on if the bone slips out of the socket and onto a nerve. Then you know about it prety quick.
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Lady Demelza posted:I used to be volunteer ambuance crew for a medical charity. Dislocated knees get ambulances, to manage pain and reduce the risk of further damage by not stabalizing the injury. In worst case scenarios, the circulation can be cut off to the lower leg or the tendons around the knee ruptured. It's the type of injury that may need surgery. yeah to my understanding the decision process for severe joint injuries is "it depends" and "will it cause lasting damage if hosed up? I dunno over the phone, I'd have to be there in the ambulance!" my brother had a really awful ankle injury some years ago that I'm very glad was handled for transport purposes by medical professionals rather than whichever randos had a car
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Jan 11, 2023 01:29
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franco posted:Oh please no. Govinda gently caress off. Seem to recall Franco being quite a fan of the swastika himself back in the day. Restricting the swastika to Nazis only means they win, gently caress them hard, there are Back in the 70s I was a student for about 6 months in a junior high school on a reservation in southern California. Kids were mostly Luiseño (Payómkawichum) or Hispanic. One morning our old white male teacher had a screaming fit at some of the native kids who'd come in with "swastikas" drawn on them - "That stands for hate! Don't you know what it means!! How dare you!!!" Rage rage. One of the lads stood up looked him straight in the eye and replied, "You don't know what it means, this has nothing to do with that, four rivers meeting at the centre of the world. This is ours." Pretty sure that they were successfully trolling the gently caress out of him but he was being at best culturally ignorant and at worst racist by trying to force a (historically recent) white Western only reading of the sign on people who still used it as their ancestors had. Many years later in the late 80s I ended up in a chat about symbols and the like with an elderly Hindu shop owner in Edinburgh who'd spotted a tattoo of mine that comes from Tibetan iconography. Great chat. We got on to the appropriation of symbols and, after checking no one else was in, he quickly sketched a "swastika" on his pad explaining that he tried to do this before shaking on any business decision to ask Ganesha to help it succeed (mini puja I guess) "but over here I have to hide it with my hand." gently caress Nazis they don't own poo poo.
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Jan 11, 2023 01:33
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Ganesh is cool in part because he is the God of entrepreneurship and luck (they're the same picture) so a huge proportion of Hindu shopkeepers etc have a little elephant headed idol that occasionally gets a candle or something also, the origin story of his head is very, very funny
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Jan 11, 2023 01:43
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Did his da gently caress an elephant? I saw these 2 quotes from Public Enemy #1 Harry Windsor's book via Mic Wright, the first about Rupert Murdoch & the 2nd about Rebekah Brooks. "I couldn’t think of a single human being in the 300,000-year history of the species who’d done more damage to our collective sense of reality." "Everyone who knew her was in full agreement that she was an infected pustule on the arse of humanity, plus a poo poo excuse for a journalist." As much as I wish I could stick my head in the ground until this tedious farce has hosed off out of the news, I did raise a smile. Honestly, no wonder the press hate him, the few quotes I've read suggest Harry has a full understanding of how loving awful the British press are. Mic's summary of the press reaction is a good read, funny & cogent: https://open.substack.com/pub/brokenbottleboy/p/harried-4-monsters-under-review?r=8z1zr&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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Jan 11, 2023 01:56
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Google Jeb Bush posted:Ganesh is cool in part because he is the God of entrepreneurship and luck (they're the same picture) so a huge proportion of Hindu shopkeepers etc have a little elephant headed idol that occasionally gets a candle or something The origin story of the head (or one of them) is indeed hilarious. He's also cool cos he's a fat, sweetie loving elephant who rides on a rat. What's not to like. forkboy84 posted:Did his da gently caress an elephant? No but loving was involved. Spoiling an very old story. Ganesha was the child of Shiva and Parvati. One day Parvati was bathing and Shiva seeing her nakedness got very horny indeed, like a good son Ganesha tried to prevent his father from having his way with her. Furious Shiva cut his head off. This made Parvati sad so to keep the peace Shiva went and got an elephant head to replace the one he'd removed. An alternative version is that Shiva thought Ganesha was too pretty so he replaced his head with an elephants and made him fat. Thanks Dad!
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forkboy84 posted:Honestly, no wonder the press hate him, the few quotes I've read suggest Harry has a full understanding of how loving awful the British press are. Much as this thread likes to meme about Buck House hit squads, while Brenda probably shed no tears over Diana's death she was less of a contributing factor to it than Babylon 5. It was the paparazzi who hounded Diana and Dodi Fayed into that tunnel, and they did that because they knew the scummy rags would pay for the pictures. Of course Harry knows how awful the press are.
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Jan 11, 2023 02:20
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I'll take any excuse to break out the DK Illustrated Book of Myths. 
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Jan 11, 2023 02:40
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EmptyVessel posted:Seem to recall Franco being quite a fan of the swastika himself back in the day. I didn't pick this screen name to honour the Caudillo, thanks. I was being somewhat flippant with the swastika comment and am fully aware that it was only appropriated by fascists relatively recently. Crispian Mills was on very thin ice with his flirtations with Neo-Nazi ideology in many ways and had to walk it back hard under the flag of "b...but...I'm a Buddhist! I love them Indians, me!" to avoid sinking his career. gently caress me I was only saying that Kula Shaker are shite!
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Jan 11, 2023 02:45
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I was joking dude - just thought it was an amusing post/username conjunction. Thought Mr Mills is into Hindu mysticism not Buddhist. He has more recently agreed that he was a twat about it all fwiw. Kula Shaker may be somewhat bland but not aggressively bad enough to be shite imo. Talking of pearl-clutching and religious symbolism, this story is hilarious and has succeeded in making me mildly interested in an album by someone I'd normally ignore. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64214750
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Jedit posted:Much as this thread likes to meme about Buck House hit squads, while Brenda probably shed no tears over Diana's death she was less of a contributing factor to it than Babylon 5. It was the paparazzi who hounded Diana and Dodi Fayed into that tunnel, and they did that because they knew the scummy rags would pay for the pictures. Of course Harry knows how awful the press are. Aww bollocks... my interest piqued when you mentioned Babylon 5, but then quickly died. 
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https://www.hsj.co.uk/policy-and-regulation/staff-on-high-alert-over-fake-health-secretary-/7033991.article Health Service Journal: Registration wall but apparently this is really what it says! quote:Staff on high alert over 'fake' health secretary By Julian Patterson
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://www.hsj.co.uk/policy-and-regulation/staff-on-high-alert-over-fake-health-secretary-/7033991.article Don’t go wasting doctors’ and nurses’ time, they’re under enough stress as it is
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Drinkslinger posted:”Steve” sounds like a prick I think Steve is our esteemed Secretary of State for Health & Social Care - the Right Horrible Stephen Barclay. But yes, what a time to pick a photo op.
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