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Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Escape From Noise posted:

Yeah. That's why I ordered two hydrometers.

What was the cost per hydrometer?

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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

This looks like it may be of interest?

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

carrionman posted:

Dumb poo poo from work:

I'm in tertiary education, so polytech, university, that group. Currently there are about 12 different institutions renewing their union contracts and we all share the same union.

This time the big push is an 8% raise to help cover inflation and the fact that we had very small increases over covid, despite record student numbers. The first 8 institutions followed the same pattern:
1. Receive request for 8% raise
2. Reject and offer incredibly lowball response
3. Campus goes on strike
4. Release a statement to the press about now you can't believe the staff would do this to the students
5. Receive signed petition of support for the strike by 60-70% of the student body
6. Crumble and accept 8% payrise request.

So the institute I work for received the 8% request in December. They came back yesterday..... 3%.
Split over 2 years, so 1.5% a year.


Here we go again

Lol dang. A buddy is a university professor & is not a fan of his institution’s policies, especially the honor code. A student can get caught plagiarizing the second time in a semester and the professor knows the most he can do is give them a zero for the assignment but pointless to try to get them kicked out of the graduate program if they’re paying full tuition. And even in egregious cases the student would be allowed to write a teacher evaluation that weighs heavily on the professor’s chances of getting tenure, with no note attached mentioning a reason the student was disciplined.

For salary chat we have a useful team member trying to get a deserved promotion to the next rung of the pay scale, and has been having a rough time getting management to take it seriously. We’d be in a rough spot if this person left, and it’s frustrating to know my company has spent more than twice this person’s salary for a week of consulting from a low level TED talk figure.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Escape From Noise posted:

drat it. Lol. Of course I'm writing it wrong!

Yeah. I read a tiny bit about it. I find that stuff really neat! I'd really like to try and find information on more traditional recipes made with the yeast. I'm sure they're varied like Wallonian saisons, but it'd be interesting to see common threads. Americans mostly just made IPA with it and I couldn't find much info through Google. I also want to get that book on Lithuanian farmhouse ales.

Wait is that this book? In that case I see the relation. :)

I don't even brew beer, and Lars' blog is fascinating ... and I kind of want to go buy some kveik now. I see my local wine monopoly actually has some truly weird raw ales with juniper and high fermentation temperatures and the lot. Hmm.

Computer viking fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jan 13, 2023

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Computer viking posted:

time the brewers also designed more specialised tools for yeast retention - stirrers with more nooks, and eventually "beer wreaths"; complicated wooden chains with a lot of surface area and nooks for yeast residue to stick to. (Which sounds like the antithesis of modern brewing equipment...)

The kveik yeasts come from both surviving farm beer traditions and enthusiasts going around to little countryside museums and farms and sampling their old brewing equipment for yeast remains. Which was surprisingly successful, the equipment was apparently rather good at keeping yeast around for the future.
This is so drat cool. Thank you.

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

Jack-Off Lantern posted:

Get him tea and packs of sugar. Maybe Diabetes can solve this

Sweet Tea is not tea with sugar in it, it is sugar with tea flavoring.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Machai posted:

Sweet Tea is not tea with sugar in it, it is sugar with tea flavoring.

Truly you are wise in the way of the southerner.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Outrail posted:

What was the cost per hydrometer?

Like ¥2000.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Computer viking posted:

Wait is that this book? In that case I see the relation. :)

I don't even brew beer, and Lars' blog is fascinating ... and I kind of want to go buy some kveik now. I see my local wine monopoly actually has some truly weird raw ales with juniper and high fermentation temperatures and the lot. Hmm.

Oh yeah! That's the one.

TaurusTorus
Mar 27, 2010

Grab the bullshit by the horns

I just love when the previous shift doesn’t leave passdowns.

Why is this plugged here? Why is the turbo pump running? Why is the toxic gas box routed backwards? Is any of this intentional? :iiam:

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Called our supplier for German malt and European hops. They're cleaned out until March and are taking preorders. I'm probably going to try and hoarde Saaz like a nutcase. But just no Golding this year. At all.

Escape From Noise fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jan 13, 2023

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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But how much exactly? It's very important

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Outrail posted:

But how much exactly? It's very important

Uh...UHHHHHHHHHH...

DreadUnknown
Nov 4, 2020

Bird is the word.

TaurusTorus posted:

I just love when the previous shift doesn’t leave passdowns.

Why is this plugged here? Why is the turbo pump running? Why is the toxic gas box routed backwards? Is any of this intentional? :iiam:
Holy poo poo is the previous shift literally Muppets or something?

BastardAus
Jun 3, 2003
Chunder from Down Under
Working for a subsidiary of a major global news outfit we were greeted by a message from The Office Of the big kahuna's bitch on the ground admonishing us all (in a continent far far away) how much better we perform when we observe 'visual cues' and 'body language' in the office irl that simply can't be replicated in our 'awkward screen-based' workspaces, therefore insinuating that not coming back to the (very expensive, now worthless real estate) office is somehow letting the team down.

The fact that we who remain after a 50% chop in people in 2020 are more efficient and deliver better content (a lot of dead wood got cut), and less of the costly rubbish that was commonplace would suggest that the only reason you want to get your geriatric rear end bumping into young interns is indicative of how little you have learned and have paid attention to the post-pandemic world of work, and the world in general.

Edit: Its a real estate scam. Overcomitted pre-pandemic, and now need bums on seats to justify the costs. Grandad getting to bully the upcoming douchebags in person is pure luck.

BastardAus fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Jan 13, 2023

djk
Apr 7, 2003

Disappointment comes in £20 packages

Tomn posted:

I feel like every graphic designer in the world just sighed in sympathy.

"I dunno, I think that font isn't really quite slick enough. And can you make the interface "pop" more?"

It's basically what happens when people have a vague idea what they want but don't have the terminology or technical experience necessary to describe what they want and end up falling back on using emotions as definitions which is as fuzzy and vague as it sounds when you need to create an actual physical product.

One of my good friends is a designer and was once asked to make something "20% more urban".

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

BastardAus posted:

Working for a subsidiary of a major global news outfit we were greeted by a message from The Office Of the big kahuna's bitch on the ground admonishing us all (in a continent far far away) how much better we perform when we observe 'visual cues' and 'body language' in the office irl that simply can't be replicated in our 'awkward screen-based' workspaces, therefore insinuating that not coming back to the (very expensive, now worthless real estate) office is somehow letting the team down.

The fact that we who remain after a 50% chop in people in 2020 are more efficient and deliver better content (a lot of dead wood got cut), and less of the costly rubbish that was commonplace would suggest that the only reason you want to get your geriatric rear end bumping into young interns is indicative of how little you have learned and have paid attention to the post-pandemic world of work, and the world in general.

Edit: Its a real estate scam. Overcomitted pre-pandemic, and now need bums on seats to justify the costs. Grandad getting to bully the upcoming douchebags in person is pure luck.

I'm glad the company I work for just ate the cost of breaking the lease of the second office down the road they'd opened in November of 2019 instead of trying to just force people to use it.

Not just because of the pandemic, but because I hated the days I had to be over there in the little IT closet... Was fun to just ignore the people knocking on the door though...

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

djk posted:

One of my good friends is a designer and was once asked to make something "20% more urban".

Between this and the "dirty pots found in employee shower room" from the health department report in the restaurant thread I think I'm having a stroke.

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Escape From Noise posted:

Between this and the "dirty pots found in employee shower room" from the health department report in the restaurant thread I think I'm having a stroke.

Nah, you're just blissfully unaware of how bad most people are at anything, and especially at doing their job.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

satanic splash-back posted:

Nah, you're just blissfully unaware of how bad most people are at anything, and especially at doing their job.

I think it's just more the employee shower room coupled with dirty cookware.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Tomn posted:

I feel like every graphic designer in the world just sighed in sympathy.

"I dunno, I think that font isn't really quite slick enough. And can you make the interface "pop" more?"

It's basically what happens when people have a vague idea what they want but don't have the terminology or technical experience necessary to describe what they want and end up falling back on using emotions as definitions which is as fuzzy and vague as it sounds when you need to create an actual physical product.

I've been in graphics for decades and it is incredibly frustrating trying to basically read somebody's mind, I agree. I took to calling what I do "visual dictation" rather than "design".

Over time, I used some workarounds like asking a customer for examples of other work that they like, color schemes they want, logos they appreciate, or link them to a font library and things like that but I'm still usually inundated with endless "minor" changes (that aren't minor at all most of the time) coupled with tight deadlines.

I got out of the field except for freelance work because, increasingly, every manager I work for has incredibly unrealistic parameters for how much time things take. My last job at a sign show allotted 15 loving MINUTES per layout as a baseline. That can work for a yard sale sign or some poo poo but, hell, that's barely even enough time to pick out some fonts, set up the template, find some clip art, clean up the lovely low res cell phone logo and generate a proof on the company proof sheet where I had to input all the specs (dimensions, job#, etc.). And again, EVERY customer makes changes to poo poo.

It's loving ridiculous. They treat the design process like a fast food joint or a Jimmy Johns.

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man

djk posted:

One of my good friends is a designer and was once asked to make something "20% more urban".

I have a singer friend who was hired for a commercial. During the recording session, the client asked him if he could do another take, but put a little more denim and cheese into it.

I'll bet session singers have lots of these types of stories, since they're not allowed to be told to sing in the style of some established performer, where they would open the client up to a copyright lawsuit. So the clients and ad directors have to use obscure hints that don't make sense to point the performer in some direction.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Yeah. One thing that always ends up driving me nuts is fruit beers. I don't have anything against fruit beers. I really like them when done well, and they can be fun to make, but a lot of times I end up in a meeting where someone mentions we should make fruit beers (for the ladies! :rolleyes:) and from that point I just have people sort of shouting out random fruits and the only beer style the person knows i.e. persimmon IPA! or whatever. I've gotten okay at explaining that fermented fruit is going to taste pretty different from just that juice, especially when mixed with wort, but I've had to explain the same thing so many times. In a way a get it but it just comes up a lot. I think it's a bit of a cultural thing, but people here always want to use white peach. I always have to explain that fermentation takes away the sugar, or at least reduces it a lot, so you have to consider the flavors the fruit has other than sweet. Sure, everyone uses cherry, raspberry, apricot, yellow peach, and to a lesser extent fruits like pomegranate and black currant, but there's a reason for that! It's pretty much the difference between fruits for baking, and those for eating. You want tarter fruits with more character because you can add sugar and all that. It's not the biggest deal but it's definitely a thing for me.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Somehow that reminds me of one of the more interesting drinks I've had on tap - a mead that had used a lean enough water/honey mix to end up not much sweeter than a lager. "Honey without the sugar" is not a common taste profile - but it was quite nice.

(Served at a metal festival with adjacent viking market, incidentally.)

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Computer viking posted:

Somehow that reminds me of one of the more interesting drinks I've had on tap - a mead that had used a lean enough water/honey mix to end up not much sweeter than a lager. "Honey without the sugar" is not a common taste profile - but it was quite nice.

(Served at a metal festival with adjacent viking market, incidentally.)

Honestly, that's a flavor I associate with a good Bohemian pilsner like Pilsner Urqell. It has a slight hint of malt sweetness, but this really amazing honey scent and flavor (minus the sweetness). I love poo poo like that. We used this experimental French hop for a Biere de Noël (French Christmas beer. Done Ina few weeks. Lol) that gave the beer these honey characteristics.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Make a Durian fruit beer plz

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Outrail posted:

Make a Durian fruit beer plz

Anthony Bourdain described eating durian as "Like making out with my dead grandmother". I can't imagine what drinking fermented durian liquid would be like.

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

Outrail posted:

Make a Durian fruit beer plz

No

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Wasabi beer?

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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coward

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

djk posted:

One of my good friends is a designer and was once asked to make something "20% more urban".

Just increase the density of housing and lower the proportion of people employed in agricultural jobs by 20% each, duh. :rolleyes:

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

djk posted:

One of my good friends is a designer and was once asked to make something "20% more urban".

This can mean anywhere from "uh" to :yikes:

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

DreadUnknown posted:

Holy poo poo is the previous shift literally Muppets or something?

This explains so much! Although, if I recall correctly, most muppets are competent except for the ones that aren’t.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3JNNsThK08

Yep. Checks out. Too busy making music to make sure they don’t route the toxic gas box backwards. (That sounds like a very dangerous thing to gently caress up.)

DamnCanadian
Jan 3, 2005

Perpetuating the stereotype since 1978.
I work for a federal agency. Very rarely do we take in any significant amount of cash, but the powers that be have decided that any cash we take in must be deposited at least weekly. Someone paid a dime for a one-page copy last week? That’s all we got? Deposit it!

We can’t get a courier to take the deposit, because lol couriers don’t waste their time on a once-a-week run. So they get an employee to do it. They get someone paid $50/hr to go deposit a couple of bucks. Your tax dollars at work.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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DamnCanadian posted:

I work for a federal agency. Very rarely do we take in any significant amount of cash, but the powers that be have decided that any cash we take in must be deposited at least weekly. Someone paid a dime for a one-page copy last week? That’s all we got? Deposit it!

We can’t get a courier to take the deposit, because lol couriers don’t waste their time on a once-a-week run. So they get an employee to do it. They get someone paid $50/hr to go deposit a couple of bucks. Your tax dollars at work.

You wouldn't believe how much time and money I waste telling my funders how much time and money I waste telling my funders how much time and money I waste instead of actually doing something productive with their money.

On second thought you absolutely would believe it.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Bored posted:

This explains so much! Although, if I recall correctly, most muppets are competent except for the ones that aren’t.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3JNNsThK08

Yep. Checks out. Too busy making music to make sure they don’t route the toxic gas box backwards. (That sounds like a very dangerous thing to gently caress up.)

Look man, the toxic gas WAS the product they were collecting, and it just makes sense to run the separator backwards if you wanna retain that sweet sweet H2S.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

djk posted:

One of my good friends is a designer and was once asked to make something "20% more urban".

Jesus, this is like the Poochi focus group

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌
Old boss is Finding Out - on top of all of her woes from everyone just loving leaving she's getting complaints from all of our internal teams regarding turnaround time and quality of service, had a meeting to discuss complaints with her boss and one of the Database Admin team, and has recently started fielding very serious complaints from our parent Department who has gotten the Departmental Secretary involved (something that I explicitly warned her would happen if she hosed around with providing them with service). Apparently at the latest team leader meeting she was uncharacteristically completely silent (she often monopolizes 95% of the meeting's runtime with off-agenda rambling meaning that precious little actually gets discussed) until right at the end when the person chairing the meeting asked if anyone had anything else they needed to raise, and she piped up out of nowhere with:

"gently caress all of these acting Directors in (the city where she works)."

Ostensibly it was directed at someone who sits close to her who is a bit loud and annoys her by talking all day (as if that excuses it).

It's interesting that she apparently forgot that her boss is an acting director in the city where she works.

I think the wheels are coming off.

Breetai fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jan 14, 2023

TaurusTorus
Mar 27, 2010

Grab the bullshit by the horns

Today I did get a passdown, but it failed to mention that the plasma source had the wrong cable harness installed making it nonfunctional.

I spent a solid hour pouring over last shift’s correspondence with the engineers to figure this out when they could have added a second sentence to the passdown.

Also, unrelated, day shift gets waffles, I just noticed the breakroom has two big hotel style waffle irons that I’m not allowed to use.

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Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

Breetai posted:

"gently caress all of these acting Directors in (the city where she works)."

Ostensibly it was directed at someone who sits close to her who is a bit loud and annoys her by talking all day (as if that excuses it).

Please tell me you know this because she tried to backtrack with exactly that excuse, in public.

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