Zodium posted:

Frosted Flake posted:

Did DALLE get much worse since a few months ago? It looks like DALLE mini now, particularly since Midjourney got good.









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfgs9FRD25M






Some of these require knowing who Al-Saqr is I suppose.

petit choux posted:

Wow thanks. Yeah, did he do those? Is he active ITF?

Relevant Tangent posted:

are there examples of code being successfully banned? seems like it'd just become samizdat

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

There was a time when RSA encryption was illegal code, as until 1996 encryption software was classified as munitions under us export control laws
anyways people figured out you could implement it in 5 lines of (very ugly) perl code, so nerds on mailing lists started setting this "illegal program" as their signature etc

Perl code:

#!/usr/local/bin/perl -- export-a-crypto-system sig, RSA in 5 lines of PERL:
($s,$k,$n)=@ARGV;$w=length$n;$k="0$k"if length($k)&1;$n="0$n",$w++if$w&1;die
"$0 -d|-e key mod <in >out\n"if$s!~/^-[de]$/||$#ARGV<2;$v=$w;$s=~/d/?$v-=2:
$w-=2;$_=unpack('B*',pack('H*',$k));s/^0*//g;s/0/d*ln%/g;s/1/d*ln%lm*ln%/g;
$c="1${_}p";while(read(STDIN,$m,$w/2)){$m=unpack("H$w",$m);chop($a=
`echo 16o16i\U$m\Esm\U$n\Esn$c|dc`);print pack('H*','0'x($v-length$a).$a);}

pretty cool!

there were shorter/improved versions later too, and some people even got it tattoed on their bodies

(no higher res, those pictures are from the 90s internet!)

webcams for christ posted:

pretty sure normal people are banned from having/writing Intelligence Agency-grade malware

what would a successful ban look like anyway? cocaine is banned just about everywhere, but it's still ubiquitous

like since crypto is officially banned in china, I'd assume that goes for the code as well, but people still mine & trade crypto from inside china

Relevant Tangent posted:

people elsewhere were talking about banning "AI" and it just seems manifestly impossible to me, once the code is written there's going to be copies floating around

webcams for christ posted:

it's much, much simpler to ban the sale of specific AI-related services than the technology/code itself. trivial, really

petit choux posted:

I have yet to see a computer that produces synthetic porn. That's not gonna be happening for a while. But imagine the argument I've been seeing here as applied to synthetic porn. I think people might launch a Butlerian jihad if we had that nowadays.

mawarannahr posted:

let’s just say everything can be art. concentration camp design, murder, the extraction of surplus value, an oil well, the Exxon Valdez leak — all these are inarguably art. the ideal of art is immaterial.

if the creation of art requires a great amount of resources with considerable environmental externalities, and if it was designed by capitalists with the purpose of eking out surplus value like so much human blood from a silicon stone, should it be done just cause it allows some goon to express themselves artistically? I don’t think so, buster!

turn off the TV posted:

it was actually designed by researchers with the purpose of detecting tumors and then people found out that they can make it draw boob

post COVID posted:

most applications of AI don't use data generated by human labor. most of the time its like data from a physics experiment, or data from big banks, or data from RELX. some of those applications are benign or even awesome (AlphaFold2) while some are beyond horrible (predicting who will default on a loan).

mawarannahr posted:

you cannot separate the data from the human labor, which is the only thing that makes it valuable. the data is unequivocally the product of human labor.

Rutibex posted:

The Elder Gods have awoken!

post COVID posted:

i guess that's fair. i would generally be in favor of requiring that an individual who produced the data consent to its release before its use in AI.

in the case of AlphaFold2, the data that went into the algorithm was the result of decades of labor from tens of thousands of scientists. but, it was deposited publicly knowing it would been mined for insights, and everyone is mostly happy about it.

quote:

Major venture capital firms Horizons Ventures and Founders Fund invested in the company,[23] as well as entrepreneurs Scott Banister,[24] Peter Thiel,[25] and Elon Musk.[26] Jaan Tallinn was an early investor and an adviser to the company.[27] On 26 January 2014, Google announced the company had acquired DeepMind for $500 million,[28][29][30][31][32][33] and that it had agreed to take over DeepMind Technologies. The sale to Google took place after Facebook reportedly ended negotiations with DeepMind Technologies in 2013.[34] The company was afterwards renamed Google DeepMind and kept that name for about two years.[35]

In 2014, DeepMind received the "Company of the Year" award from Cambridge Computer Laboratory.[36]

In September 2015, DeepMind and the Royal Free NHS Trust signed their initial Information Sharing Agreement (ISA) to co-develop a clinical task management app, Streams.[37]

After Google's acquisition the company established an artificial intelligence ethics board.[38] The ethics board for AI research remains a mystery, with both Google and DeepMind declining to reveal who sits on the board.[39] DeepMind, together with Amazon, Google, Facebook, IBM and Microsoft, is a founding member of Partnership on AI, an organization devoted to the society-AI interface.[40] DeepMind has opened a new unit called DeepMind Ethics and Society and focused on the ethical and societal questions raised by artificial intelligence featuring prominent philosopher Nick Bostrom as advisor.[41] In October 2017, DeepMind launched a new research team to investigate AI ethics.[42][43]

In December 2019, co-founder Suleyman announced he would be leaving DeepMind to join Google, working in a policy role.[44]

mawarannahr posted:

nobody went to the trouble of taking all those pictures, labeling them, and training Stable Diffusion or DALL-E or whatever artistic models with this purpose.

Mr. Sharps posted:

are there still issues with diagnostic AI being basically worthless medically since the reasoning behind the diagnosis is locked in the black box of the algorithm?

turn off the TV posted:

hosed up to think that this may not have been the original purpose of these kinds of image classification and recognition networks

quote:

There is one comforting conclusion which is easy for a real mathematician. Real mathematics has no effects on war. No one has yet discovered any warlike purpose to be served by the theory of numbers or relativity, and it seems very unlikely that anyone will do so for many years. It is true that there are branches of applied mathematics, such as ballistics and aerodynamics, which have been developed deliberately for war and demand a quite elaborate technique: it is perhaps hard to call them ‘trivial’, but none of them has any claim to rank as real: They are indeed repulsively ugly and intolerably dull; even Littlewood could not make ballistics respectable, and if he could not who can? So a real mathematician has his conscience clear; there is nothing to be set against any value his work may have; mathematics is, as I said at Oxford, a “harmless and innocent” occupation.

mawarannahr posted:

the original purpose barely matters at all to these actually existing models — as the cliche goes, the purpose of a system is what it does. the very genesis of those algorithms is dependent on the military-industrial-academic complex; scientists would not get any funding without that. it’s a strange thing to focus on that reflects a widespread idealized view of the science.

in general the focus on intent reminds me of GH Hardy’s apology for pure mathematics.

obviously he was wrong. he would not have been able to do this research were it not in the British ruling class’s interest. his research was repurposed in their interests, not only in areas such as eugenics but also in cryptography and nuclear weapons. the laudable ends (or lack of ends) Hardy imagined for his work have very little connection to these. nobody I know of downplays nuclear weapons today on the basis that the scientists were good hearted, and introducing that to the discussion would be bizarre.

turn off the TV posted:

the original purpose matters because it's a lot funnier that people are using some super advanced medical image analysis techniques that nerds spent decades researching to instead make astronomical amounts of anime porn

turn off the TV posted:

the original purpose matters because it's a lot funnier that people are using some super advanced medical image analysis techniques that nerds spent decades researching to instead make astronomical amounts of anime porn

turn off the TV posted:

the original purpose matters because it's a lot funnier that people are using some super advanced medical image analysis techniques that nerds spent decades researching to instead make astronomical amounts of anime porn

mawarannahr posted:

that’s nice but it’s owned by Google, which bought it for money with the purpose of extracting the surplus value created not only by the scientists but also by the workers who made the 200 GPUs it was trained on. it’s going to be commercialized to further gently caress over people who can’t get healthcare because companies like Google don’t want them to, and it will be used to “discipline” labor.

petit choux posted:

and we're still watching the comic book movies because we are just apes.

KirbyKhan posted:

Go to 4chan if you wanna see the bleeding edge in synthetic porn. Some twitter accounts too. They're super happy jacking off to 3-boobed waifus.

Computers cannot coddle clients through the commission process. People are too wierd: the automated process helps thumbnail ideas but doesn't quite get da freaks all the way to the sublime finish. Until that hurdle is passed, extremely complicated porn is still firmly within the purview of humans.

mawarannahr posted:

DeepMind has opened a new unit called DeepMind Ethics and Society and focused on the ethical and societal questions raised by artificial intelligence featuring prominent philosopher Nick Bostrom as advisor.[41]