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Brawnfire posted:Nothing in yo cranium The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > Star Trek: You put the "durr" in duranium
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Lemniscate Blue posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > Star Trek: You put the "durr" in duranium
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Jan 13, 2023 18:43
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Lemniscate Blue posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > TV IV > Star Trek: You put the "durr" in duranium lol
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Jan 13, 2023 19:30
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nine-gear crow posted:more actual scientastic sounding names like tritanium and transparent aluminum rather than like durasteel and plastisteel and whatever cartoony poo poo Conversely, tritanium sounds like made up "I don't know how metals are named" name and plastisteel sounds like something that I can go buy today Probably because there's a company called Plasteel. They make underground storage tanks, which are steel coated with a fiberglass/plastic composite.
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Jan 13, 2023 20:05
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How big is the Nebula class? Since it's a kitbash of Galaxy parts, I imagine it's about the same volume, but sometimes I see them smaller. The 90s shows often made mistakes with scale when depicting fleets of ships.
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Jan 13, 2023 21:09
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Revved my Star Trek marathon back up and checked out "Lessons" and "The Chase" from TNG and "Battle Lines". "Lessons" was pretty good and it's been a revelation to see how often the show calls back to the events of previous episodes with the episode calling back to "The Inner Light". With it being so planet-of-the-week in nature, going into TNG, I wasn't expecting much continuity, even with characters and their history, but I'm glad that's not the case. "The Chase" explaining why so many alien species are humanoid– I wasn't expecting that either. In fact, I came up with my own theory that the reason why so many species in the galaxy have that same two leg, two arm look is because of recurring aspects of evolution based on the inherent physics of life-supporting planets.
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Jan 13, 2023 21:10
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Kurzon posted:How big is the Nebula class? Since it's a kitbash of Galaxy parts, I imagine it's about the same volume, but sometimes I see them smaller. The 90s shows often made mistakes with scale when depicting fleets of ships. I think the original intent was for it to be smaller, and I feel like the shot of the Sutherland in drydock makes the saucer seem smaller than a Galaxy's, but like you said the fact that it's basically just a kitbash does suggest the volume is roughly similar.
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Jan 13, 2023 21:13
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Yeah. With Star Trek ships, you can extrapolate how many decks they have by counting the rows of windows. The Nebula saucer has the same arrangement of windows as the Galaxy's, so it's logical that they would be of the same size.
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Jan 13, 2023 21:24
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I think the original intent was for it to be smaller, and I feel like the shot of the Sutherland in drydock makes the saucer seem smaller than a Galaxy's, but like you said the fact that it's basically just a kitbash does suggest the volume is roughly similar. Yeah, the Nebula is just the Galaxy without the neck connecting the saucer and stardrive. So yeah, you lose like 10 decks, but the smallest 10 decks aside from like Deck 1 in terms of square footage.
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Jan 13, 2023 21:25
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DoubleCakes posted:"The Chase" explaining why so many alien species are humanoid– I wasn't expecting that either. In fact, I came up with my own theory that the reason why so many species in the galaxy have that same two leg, two arm look is because of recurring aspects of evolution based on the inherent physics of life-supporting planets. nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, the Nebula is just the Galaxy without the neck connecting the saucer and stardrive. So yeah, you lose like 10 decks, but the smallest 10 decks aside from like Deck 1 in terms of square footage. Don't forget the rear section of the Nebula, with that triangle jutting over the saucer. There's quite a bit of volume to that part. I wouldn't be shocked if the Nebula class actually has more volume than the Galaxy. Like how the Miranda class is actually slightly bigger than the Constitution. Kurzon fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 13, 2023 |
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Jan 13, 2023 21:27
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DoubleCakes posted:Revved my Star Trek marathon back up and checked out "Lessons" and "The Chase" from TNG and "Battle Lines". "Lessons" was pretty good and it's been a revelation to see how often the show calls back to the events of previous episodes with the episode calling back to "The Inner Light". With it being so planet-of-the-week in nature, going into TNG, I wasn't expecting much continuity, even with characters and their history, but I'm glad that's not the case. I was thinking something similar recently when watching early TNG. It really is a different style of television than practiced today. The episode that introduced the Borg - Q Who? - was complete in and of itself, leaving nothing unresolved. Yet it also spent a lot of time setting up background - not just for the Borg, but for characters - that would pay off dramatically *over a season later* in Best of Both Worlds. More modern television would typically do a Borg arc or a Borg season, i.e. the Xindi arc in ENT. Also symbolic of the different style of television is that the introduction of an ominous new nemesis was a random episode mid-season, and the season finale was a turgid medical drama about Riker contracting space death.
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Jan 13, 2023 21:35
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I always thought it was due to a writers strike or something but Wikipedia says "Shades of Gray" was a clip show to save money because they overspent on "Elementary, Dear Data" and "Q Who" and Paramount was holding them to the budget for the season.
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Jan 13, 2023 21:44
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Nullsmack posted:I always thought it was due to a writers strike or something but Wikipedia says "Shades of Gray" was a clip show to save money because they overspent on "Elementary, Dear Data" and "Q Who" and Paramount was holding them to the budget for the season. It was the style of the time, like tying an onion to a belt in the .... The networks wanted a number of bottle episodes and clipshows per season to drive down the overall costs of making the 24 episodes for a season. Bottle episodes where cheap to shoot but took time, clipshows were quick to shoot and cheap. So ~4 bottle episodes and 2 clipshows made the season only 18 "real episodes" cost-wise. With Star Trek, they were also needed because the SFX work took more than a week to do, so without such episodes they would not have been able to crank out episode per week, even with the holiday season and Summer discounted from the workload. "Measure of a Man" is a bottle episode that became one of the better TNG episodes because of writing. "The Fly" in Breaking Bad is a bottle episode that is lambasted because it is so apparent corner cutting measurement.
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Jan 13, 2023 22:00
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Nullsmack posted:I always thought it was due to a writers strike or something but Wikipedia says "Shades of Gray" was a clip show to save money because they overspent on "Elementary, Dear Data" and "Q Who" and Paramount was holding them to the budget for the season. I legitimately don't understand how this became the prevailing theory about Shades of Gray. The WGA strike ended in August 1988; Shades of Gray was written in the spring of 1989 and aired in July '89.
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Jan 13, 2023 22:46
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Timby posted:I legitimately don't understand how this became the prevailing theory about Shades of Gray. The WGA strike ended in August 1988; Shades of Gray was written in the spring of 1989 and aired in July '89. the strike's the reason the season's 4 episodes short, so I can see people conflating that with the budget crunch
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Jan 13, 2023 23:00
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Der Kyhe posted:
..."Fly" was near-universally loved unless this is a result of retrospective opinion pieces.
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Angry_Ed posted:..."Fly" was near-universally loved unless this is a result of retrospective opinion pieces. But still it is a masterclass of a bottle episode, and on a bingewatch the episode everyone tells you to skip. Like that one episode on Stranger Things, and no-one who watched that need a reminder of what that was.
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Jan 14, 2023 00:26
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Der Kyhe posted:But still it is a masterclass of a bottle episode, and on a bingewatch the episode everyone tells you to skip. Like that one episode on Stranger Things, and no-one who watched that need a reminder of what that was. Uh no dude, sorry your friends have bad taste, but its not an episode everybody tells you to skip.
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Jan 14, 2023 05:08
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Could somebody enlighten me under a spoiler tag, please and thank you?
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Jan 14, 2023 06:17
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We watched a little piece of forgotten schlock called Arena (1989) tonight, featuring a cold calculating villain with slicked-back hair played by Marc Alaimo and his right-hand man in full facial prosthetics and giant ears played by… Armin Shimmerman. https://youtu.be/WSJJPCiA6s0 Kinda funny seeing them both in a pre-DS9 movie playing broadly similar characters.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:We watched a little piece of forgotten schlock called Arena (1989) tonight, featuring a cold calculating villain with slicked-back hair played by Marc Alaimo and his right-hand man in full facial prosthetics and giant ears played by… Armin Shimmerman. Along with a pre-Babylon5 Claudia Christian.
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Jan 14, 2023 11:50
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Looks like I've got my next movie night pick, assuming it's as funny-bad as it looks from that trailer and not just bad-bad
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Jan 14, 2023 12:00
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Who the hell tells anyone to skip Fly in a Breaking Bad run
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Feldegast42 posted:Who the hell tells anyone to skip Fly in a Breaking Bad run The same sort who'd tell someone to skip Take Me Out To The Holosuite.
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Jan 14, 2023 23:33
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Fly is the resolution of Walt/Jesse/Jane! You can't loving skip that! It'd be like skipping Granite State because it's "boring watching a sad guy in a cabin" or something. Take Me Out to the Holosuite was just delightful, and I could see people skipping it on rewatches, maybe, but for a first-time viewer, it's essential too. The comradery (particularly the ending) is a lovely reprieve from the war and it's super nice seeing Ezri with the entire crew, just accepted.
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Jan 15, 2023 01:09
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LividLiquid posted:Take Me Out to the Holosuite was just delightful, and I could see people skipping it on rewatches, maybe, but for a first-time viewer, it's essential too. The comradery (particularly the ending) is a lovely reprieve from the war and it's super nice seeing Ezri with the entire crew, just accepted. I have to admit to skipping it on most rewatches these days. I agree that it is essential to see at least once though. In addition to what you've said, it is also a great case study on vulcans.
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Jan 15, 2023 01:28
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Yeah, come on! Both of those episodes don't directly contribute to the plot, but there is a lot of important character work in both and the latter is a fun breather.
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Jan 15, 2023 03:45
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Take Me Out to the Holosuite is absolutely an essential season 7 episode, if only for a much-needed break from WARWARWAR.
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Jan 15, 2023 03:47
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FIND HIM AND KILL HIM!!!!!
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Jan 15, 2023 03:48
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Is Strange New Worlds any good? I have the TOS remastered series on Blu Ray, and a few of the films on Blu, but I don’t have any access to anything else. I was thinking about getting Paramount Plus to watch TNG/DS9, and maybe SNW too.
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Jan 15, 2023 03:58
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It's exceptional. Also, so are Prodigy and Lower Decks!
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MrMojok posted:Is Strange New Worlds any good? I have the TOS remastered series on Blu Ray, and a few of the films on Blu, but I don’t have any access to anything else. Most people here have varying degrees of positive opinions on it.
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MrMojok posted:Is Strange New Worlds any good? I have the TOS remastered series on Blu Ray, and a few of the films on Blu, but I don’t have any access to anything else. I think SNW's reputation gets a bit overblown because everyone was so desperate for live-action Trek that wasn't utterly dire, but there are some excellent episodes and I don't think any episode drops below "mediocre." There's clearly a lot of love in the writing, and the charisma of the cast makes up for some script weaknesses.
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Jan 15, 2023 04:08
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Timby posted:I think SNW's reputation gets a bit overblown because everyone was so desperate for live-action Trek that wasn't utterly dire, but there are some excellent episodes and I don't think any episode drops below "mediocre." There's clearly a lot of love in the writing, and the charisma of the cast makes up for some script weaknesses. I would rate it lower, but it's not an awful watch like Discovery/Picard, and the cast really does carry it hard. It's an amazing cast, and I just wish they had the writers room to back them up.
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I go back and forth with whether Lower Decks or Strange New Worlds is better.
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Jan 15, 2023 04:13
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Apples and oranges for me. They’re equally good in my mind, for different reasons.
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Hollismason posted:I go back and forth with whether Lower Decks or Strange New Worlds is better. I feel like they're both good in their own ways. Lower Decks is, also, clearly written with a lot of love for the lore and source material, and you see that in all the deep cuts into continuity. But occasionally the humor gets to be a little too much (though this is a problem more with the first season than the subsequent two). Strange New Worlds is pretty well-timed when it comes to humor (Time Amok is an excellent example of this), but some of those scripts ... oof, they needed to have a little more time in the oven. But the cast is incredible, and adding Carol Kane for season 2 is a brilliant move, because she's been great in just about everything in her career. Edit: It's also worth noting I did a ridiculously quick turnaround on Prodigy after a relatively boring pilot. That entire first season wound up being incredibly good.
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lower decks is fun, animation allows for diverse settings characters and peanut humper is such a fun joke.
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MrMojok posted:Is Strange New Worlds any good? I have the TOS remastered series on Blu Ray, and a few of the films on Blu, but I don’t have any access to anything else. People seem to like it. I felt it was a shameless nostalgia grab that went out of its way to emphasize that it had no interest in doing anything original or new, but I seem to be in a distinct minority.
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I've never seen TOS and I don't feel like I was missing anything in SNW not getting whatever references or nostalgia you're talking about. Lower Decks, on the other hand, I often need to Google something to get a joke even when it's referencing things I've seen twenty times over.
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