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Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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Mysticblade posted:

E - The MC does debt trap a guy into slavery pretty early on which is real lovely and probably means it should go here but it happens pretty early on so I'd almost forgotten. Not great but well, this isn't a great genre.

Though to be fair that guy had been defrauding his family for years, and the other option was "take you to the legal system where you get executed for ripping of the nobility" since there was no way he could return all the ill-gotten gains.

While it's not great, I mostly just took it as the author trying to make a black joke because there has been no other mention of slavery at all, and that seems like a very obvious thing to include in a series about labor-intensive construction projects.

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khy
Aug 15, 2005

How the hell did 'Handyman Saitou in Another World' get turned into an anime?

I'm not complaining, it's fun as poo poo, but like 80% of the 'chapters' are 5 pages or less.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty


don't bother looking it up, it's obviously garbage

but the title is funny

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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Captain Invictus posted:



don't bother looking it up, it's obviously garbage

but the title is funny

Oh I saw it the other day, but the description of the light novel was so vile I wasn’t even willing to do my usual “I wonder if it’s bad enough to be funny” test read.

Edit(context):

MC is reincarnated so he’s physically 20 but mentally 40, so he wants some MILF action. People on this poo poo world live to about 60, so they’ll sell their wives into slavery once they’re “used up” at 40.

MC thus goes around buying up women in their 40s because they’re totally in his strike zone.

Nemo2342 fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Jan 10, 2023

Swilo
Jun 2, 2004
ANIME SUCKS HARD
:dukedog:
...and by "partied" it means "bought as a slave" because of course, and has been pegged as the #1 popular new title on mangadex since it was added with only one chapter :thumbsup:

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

khy posted:

How the hell did 'Handyman Saitou in Another World' get turned into an anime?

I'm not complaining, it's fun as poo poo, but like 80% of the 'chapters' are 5 pages or less.

The first episode was mostly a collection of mini stories, without anything to connect them. So...exactly like the manga

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
So is there a reason people die at 60 or is this a case of the author assuming life expectancy in ye olden days was super low because he didn't account for how infant mortality rates screw with figures?

FrozenPhoenix71
Jan 9, 2019

Arc Hammer posted:

So is there a reason people die at 60 or is this a case of the author assuming life expectancy in ye olden days was super low because he didn't account for how infant mortality rates screw with figures?
Presumably so there's an "in universe justification" for 40 something year old women to be randomly sold into slavery because lovely author and story is gonna be lovely

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

Arc Hammer posted:

So is there a reason people die at 60 or is this a case of the author assuming life expectancy in ye olden days was super low because he didn't account for how infant mortality rates screw with figures?

Can't sell stale cake.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

Nemo2342 posted:

Oh I saw it the other day, but the description of the light novel was so vile I wasn’t even willing to do my usual “I wonder if it’s bad enough to be funny” test read.

Edit(context):

MC is reincarnated so he’s physically 20 but mentally 40, so he wants some MILF action. People on this poo poo world live to about 60, so they’ll sell their wives into slavery once they’re “used up” at 40.

MC thus goes around buying up women in their 40s because they’re totally in his strike zone.



Admittedly, this image also applies to a lot of series appropriate to this thread.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Arc Hammer posted:

So is there a reason people die at 60 or is this a case of the author assuming life expectancy in ye olden days was super low because he didn't account for how infant mortality rates screw with figures?

Seems like the latter

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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Arc Hammer posted:

So is there a reason people die at 60 or is this a case of the author assuming life expectancy in ye olden days was super low because he didn't account for how infant mortality rates screw with figures?

No idea, that’s just what I got from reading the comments on the web novel. I found the whole concept too off putting to read it myself.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
if you're so curious, just read it yourself. but please, don't feel obligated to post all the details here.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


gently caress that, give us the lowdown it's why we're here

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
I read it after reading this thread. In the translation on mangadex, all the numbers are 10 years lower, ie: people in this world don't expect to live past 50, and women are considered past their prime at 30. Selling them into slavery isn't considered normal, ie: the guy who did it was a particularly big rear end in a top hat who was already cheating on her and spending all their money gambling and stuff, and it blindsided her when it happened, but the main dude does just casually stroll into a slave market the first thing after getting kicked out of his party, so my verdict is Not Wholesome.

Edit: Also they have sex at the end of the first chapter, so this isn't even pretending not to be porn.

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠

Bremen posted:



Admittedly, this image also applies to a lot of series appropriate to this thread.

the other series don't disguise it.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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Props to Greatest Estate Developer for putting some actual muscles on the "only uses archery" elves.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Nemo2342 posted:



Props to Greatest Estate Developer for putting some actual muscles on the "only uses archery" elves.

Props for Javier just being able to Annihilate the MC's soul at will

dipwood
Feb 22, 2004

rouge means red in french
Been reading Isekai Feudal Japan Farming Manga lately and it's quite good. Reminds me of Jin in the same 'bringing modern knowledge to a simpler time' theme, without the fantasy magic.

dipwood fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jan 16, 2023

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012
Just wanted to echo that this story is good and I'm enjoying the Lloyd being a scumbag MC any chance he gets. Not super far into it but I love the village of orcs obsessed with sick gains. And this isn't a complaint because I think the story integrates this element very well and it's central to resolving some of the drama; but I would have liked to not see a status screen and level up mechanic. Just feels like the main character is already well off with his book knowledge, engineering degree, Military training, and the fact that magic is real.

On the polar opposite side of quality I found a manga description that embodies truly bad isekai.

Reincarnation Coliseum posted:

Average high school student Mikagami​ Kouji is a hardcore gamer. One day he gets isekai'd and he only gets the skill "copy" which is apparently useless but we all know it's secretly OP or something. He's enslaved to be a gladiator by his summoner, the big booba, head priestess Zayd. He has to fight in the Colosseum and if he loses he gets raped.

dipwood
Feb 22, 2004

rouge means red in french
For Real Estate Manga, it's nice that the way to level up is be friends with people, and not farming slimes in a dungeon, or stealing/copying skills from other people. And that all of his skills have to be an extension of things he actually knows or has physically trained in, even if the escalation of those abilities gets kinda silly.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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dipwood posted:

For Real Estate Manga, it's nice that the way to level up is be friends with people, and not farming slimes in a dungeon, or stealing/copying skills from other people. And that all of his skills have to be an extension of things he actually knows or has physically trained in, even if the escalation of those abilities gets kinda silly.

I'm definitely more tolerant of it since he doesn't instantly get knowledge of unrelated skills, and they generally don't effortlessly solve problems for him. Even though it's a cheat, it's so much more satisfying to me that he's got a skill that is "simulate different construction projects" and not just "magic internet that tells him the answers".

Plus it's funny whenever he gets a new badass combat ability and his only thought is that it will let him be better at construction.

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Oct 31, 2012

dipwood posted:

For Real Estate Manga, it's nice that the way to level up is be friends with people, and not farming slimes in a dungeon, or stealing/copying skills from other people. And that all of his skills have to be an extension of things he actually knows or has physically trained in, even if the escalation of those abilities gets kinda silly.
Having the status screen be an actual character was a novel approach as well. Delivering more than just updates on experience points, but also serving as a vehicle for jokes, exposition, and some banter. Like a less annoying Navi. As for his powers, exporting some abilities to separate entities also gives him some things to work around at least the one time their own health mattered up to where I'm at. Also those little gachamon are cute.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

I loved in the recent chapter where he gets all smug over his new Ruler of the Dead skill, and starts triumphantly walking over the previous threat because now his new skill has saved the day and then the skill text at the very bottom says it only works while he's actively keeping them in his sight, and so he nearly dies anyways.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
What is the consensus on How a Realist Hero Saved the Kingdom? Hulu sent me to it after Bofuri s2e1, and I was like "okay, sounds novel" and watched it, and 26 episodes later, I genuinely can not tell if I liked it or not.

I mostly liked the way the show stayed away from typical power fantasy and adventuring stuff and foregrounded logistics and politics, even if everything seemed to come a bit easily -- yes, I know Roroa and the Queen/King/Georg coalition were helping him without his knowledge, and I know the characters themselves voice "this is all a bit too smooth" a few times, but still, having not all Souya's ideas immediately work perfectly would have been nice. The characters were all believably smart, which is important in a show like that. Although Souya develops a completely unexplained blind spot mid-season 2, where he somehow apparently doesn't realize that giving Van a ton of personal freedom and then handing them back off to tyranical crackdowns is going to lead to a pro-him revolt? That's the sort of Machiavellian move that's been well established as right in his wheelhouse, and like one line about "we can hold the city and take a bunch of foreign policy hits or we can hand it back, look benevolent, get paid for it, and I guarantee you we'll have the city anyway inside of a year" would have fixed it.

The harem was... mostly okay. Him and Liscia was an actually well executed romance, Aisha's been throwing herself at him (really, both of them, and a braver show would have made it explicit) since Day One and she's clearly the equivalent of a princess herself, so I get that, and Roroa's a no-brainer political marriage. But then there's Juna, who doesn't have much chemistry with Souya, hasn't shown any explicit interest, isn't politically necessary, and then just suddenly literally goes "oh hey I'm in this harem too" and Souya's like "yes that makes sense actually I'm very into you, despite how my eyes have never moved off Liscia for a second and also I've repeatedly expressed out loud my discomfort with the concept of polygamy being expected of me". It's pretty obvious that she's in there because the writers made a pretty blue haired girl with a big chest and therefore the main character must possess her. Again, a braver show would have paired her with Poncho -- with whom she showed actual chemistry -- or even, gasp, no one at all! It is maybe actually okay if a pretty girl exists in the secondary cast and the mc doesn't bone her?

Mega bonus points for an isekai with slavery where the narration immediately calls it the vilest institution ever devised by mankind, and the mc's reaction is "okay, this needs to go obviously, but ideally without the bloody civil war so let's work on baby steps", though.

CapnAndy fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jan 18, 2023

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

I liked the first light novel okay but the talent show part was kind of tedious. I don't remember much of the second but I do remember being bored enough that I fell asleep reading it.

Maybe a quicker paced anime or manga would be better.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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CapnAndy posted:

What is the consensus on How a Realist Hero Saved the Kingdom? Hulu sent me to it after Bofuri s2e1, and I was like "okay, sounds novel" and watched it, and 26 episodes later, I genuinely can not tell if I liked it or not.

I dropped it after the MC effectively enslaved a subordinate so that they could “keep him in check” in the event he became too tyrannical.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Nemo2342 posted:

I dropped it after the MC effectively enslaved a subordinate so that they could “keep him in check” in the event he became too tyrannical.
Oh yeah, that was also a not great moment. Guess what, in all her future appearances she wears a maid outfit and is treated as help for menial labor, despite being a proven battle commander and tactician whose role is supposedly to be a living Sword of Damocles!

I've also remembered that Souya react's to Roroa's introduction of "I came here for you to marry me, duh" with stereotypical harem MC shock, instead of "well yeah, that is the extremely obvious move", which would have been way more in character for him. Honestly, the writing gets a lot stupider as the second season goes on, now that I think about it.

CapnAndy fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Jan 18, 2023

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


CapnAndy posted:

What is the consensus on How a Realist Hero Saved the Kingdom?

I seem to be the only person who really likes this series. I really like the manga, the LN is pretty alright and the anime was (imo) just awful.

While I like it overall, the series really zigzags in quality. The post-Amedonia arcs are really the low point of the entire story so far. IMO it recovers when they start going to other nations and figuring out what's up there. From the sounds of it you're kind of in the middle of the series' nadir so good news, it's pretty uphill from that point. They also go after a kaiju at one point, so that's pretty rad.

The latest novels become weirdly serious, with some actually extreme stakes and some GoT-rear end events shaking up the continent. I...don't know if I like or hate the shift, I think the author realized that Souma basically had no real adversary so he had to write one in. It sorta works but it also stops being the comfortable and safe story you're used to. I gotta read the latest novels to see the payout.

So yeah, overall I recommend it, but I seem to be in the minority on that.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
oh hey, the female knight who showed up at my farm updated and hell, it's about tahm

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
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Switchblade Switcharoo

Nemo2342 posted:



Props to Greatest Estate Developer for putting some actual muscles on the "only uses archery" elves.

Not an Isekai but an MMOG but bringing it up because of different ideas of elves. b

"The Strongest Florist"

Elves protect their forest but a) rather thug beat someone that offends then than negotiating and b) very xenophobic of all players and c) use their overpowered NPC status and stats to make sure any player is punished for existing or offending their new friendo.


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Oct 31, 2012

Captain Invictus posted:

oh hey, the female knight who showed up at my farm updated and hell, it's about tahm



About drat time.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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EVIL Gibson posted:

Not an Isekai but an MMOG but bringing it up because of different ideas of elves. b

"The Strongest Florist"

That's the only other series I read on Webtoon, though honestly I felt like it's grown a little stale ever since the eSports arc. Still a decent read though.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Nemo2342 posted:

That's the only other series I read on Webtoon, though honestly I felt like it's grown a little stale ever since the eSports arc. Still a decent read though.

Its not terrible, a little stale but I just munch the free chapter every week and continue on.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Captain Invictus posted:

oh hey, the female knight who showed up at my farm updated and hell, it's about tahm



I blasted through about half of this last night in one go. I've enjoyed it so far.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Seraphic Neoman posted:

I seem to be the only person who really likes this series. I really like the manga, the LN is pretty alright and the anime was (imo) just awful.
I mean, I watched the anime, so... yeah. And the manga hasn't caught up to the anime yet, and I just can't get into LNs. Between the fact that they're written to be pretty easy to read and that translating prose is exponentially harder, they come off as mediocre YA to me.

Also, Souma, right. I guess I somehow transposed the "y" from his given first name?

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

Nitrousoxide posted:

I blasted through about half of this last night in one go. I've enjoyed it so far.

Yeah same, but i had read the first half already, it just fell off my follows somehow. Definitely a lot more stuff going on, especially the most recent chapter! Thanks for posting Invictus

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I like how it dives right into "oh, there's a magical being in the real world? they can cast spells and poo poo? let's do a bunch of compensated government testing on them, with their consent of course!"

it's not world-shattering or anything, but it's a nice slice of life isekai with no problematic elements which is nice.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Nemo2342 posted:

That's the only other series I read on Webtoon, though honestly I felt like it's grown a little stale ever since the eSports arc. Still a decent read though.

:same:

I still read it but the esport tournament and even the recent gold smuggling by the goblins that the MC helped with to avoid the guilds did not come across as entertaining.

The magic user teammate showing up fully decked out with flower gear is still pretty good.

I just talked because I like twists on tropes especially very old fantasy races.

:words:
Another elf variant I love are the elves from the Dark Sun D&D campaign. The planet is super hosed because magic does not come from energy floating around; it comes from any life energy around. Be it plants, algae, microbes and if it's high enough people. You stand on soil and cast a spell, the soil becomes sterile. If you do it in front of weak mob characters, they will not run away in terror. They will all swarm you and kill you because magic ruined the whole world. Its desert now and elves no longer had their forests and naturey environments.

They run. All the time. As traders and raiders. They don't believe in riding animals and all need to catch up with the tribe.



Scouts fork off from what looks like a bird migration and come back to the "flock" to report things.

:words:

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Oct 31, 2012

Captain Invictus posted:

I like how it dives right into "oh, there's a magical being in the real world? they can cast spells and poo poo? let's do a bunch of compensated government testing on them, with their consent of course!"

it's not world-shattering or anything, but it's a nice slice of life isekai with no problematic elements which is nice.

The big hook for me reading the series was in fact when the Japanese CDC shows up in force. It is small, but getting to see a story where the idea that transmigration might carry the risk of spreading foreign pathogens is not often examined in isekai. Hell, the last time I think I saw it brought up was in GATE which similarly has people from a fantasy world come to earth but well. It's GATE which is full of other problems.

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