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Eric Cantonese posted:Would it be funny if he gave the fake diamond cufflinks to you?
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ecureuilmatrix posted:"Deported to Brasil" is still my funniest end game for this. regressive will finally open up televoting for Santos. Also only for them. oh and their televotes are weighted more than dem votes. and finally even a drunkhigh passed out regressive on a video feed has a vote thats always what Kevin wants.
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Jan 14, 2023 21:46
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Eric Cantonese posted:Would it be funny if he gave the fake diamond cufflinks to you? Yes. Eric Cantonese posted:I find conmen generally offensive, even if they victimize rich people. Sure, but how are those mutually exclusive? I can think it's funny that he's such a buffoon, and think he's offensive at the same time.
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Jan 14, 2023 21:56
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Eric Cantonese posted:Would it be funny if he gave the fake diamond cufflinks to you? I mean, anyone giving me any kind of cufflinks is inherently a joke. However this is possibly the platonic ideal of a victimless act. Like, he's handing them out as gifts. It's not even a financial con, at best it's weak social gamesmanship amongst the nouveau riche.
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Jan 14, 2023 22:15
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It's 3000% funnier since Trump, on occasion, pulls him off his own shirtsleeves So not only does Trump give the cubric zirconia and pewter cufflinks as gifts, he reguarly wears the fake diamond cufflinks just on the off chance to pass them out as gifts. The levels of this trolling is hysterical.
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Jan 14, 2023 22:41
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If the Georgia grand jury decides charges against trump are in order, how does he get behind bars? If Florida isn't willing to arrest and transport him to GA, and he doesn't go to GA does she sort of evade that?
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Jan 14, 2023 23:17
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Zotix posted:If the Georgia grand jury decides charges against trump are in order, how does he get behind bars? If Florida isn't willing to arrest and transport him to GA, and he doesn't go to GA does she sort of evade that? I mean... the secret service could just pick him up and transport him, Technically Trump can be protected perfectly well behind bars
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Jan 14, 2023 23:23
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Twincityhacker posted:It's 3000% funnier since Trump, on occasion, pulls him off his own shirtsleeves So not only does Trump give the cubric zirconia and pewter cufflinks as gifts, he reguarly wears the fake diamond cufflinks just on the off chance to pass them out as gifts. That is some Flintheart Glomgold levels of douchebaggery and I am totally here for it. Shame he was actually elected president though.
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Jan 14, 2023 23:33
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Ghost Leviathan posted:New York Democrats have been pretty recently actively letting Republicans win to keep leftist candidates out, the official body for making sure of such has only very recently faded from prominence. Santos' district is primarily Long Island and a bit of Queens right? I think it's worth remembering that this is the richest bit of the entire country. I don't think they needed a whole lot of dem failure to finally admit that they just love fascism unironically and wanted to vote for the R guy.
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Jan 14, 2023 23:48
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Twincityhacker posted:It's 3000% funnier since Trump, on occasion, pulls him off his own shirtsleeves So not only does Trump give the cubric zirconia and pewter cufflinks as gifts, he reguarly wears the fake diamond cufflinks just on the off chance to pass them out as gifts. See I don't think it is trolling. He's not doing it to make that person the fool. I genuinely believe he's doing to make himself look better but he's too cheap to do real diamonds.
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Jan 14, 2023 23:51
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Twincityhacker posted:It's 3000% funnier since Trump, on occasion, pulls him off his own shirtsleeves So not only does Trump give the cubric zirconia and pewter cufflinks as gifts, he reguarly wears the fake diamond cufflinks just on the off chance to pass them out as gifts. Additionally, it's like 50/50 between him intentionally buying cheap knock offs or someone in Trump Org embezzling the difference between lovely real diamond cufflinks and the cost of the cubic zirconia ones.
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Jan 14, 2023 23:52
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I'm sure I can think of ethical situations I'd care less about than the authenticity of cufflinks traded between rich shitheads, but I'd have to be at it for awhile.
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Jan 15, 2023 00:07
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It could be worse, Trump could be giving them conflict diamonds. Though if anyone could find a way to buy conflict zirconia it would be Trump.
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Jan 15, 2023 01:54
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Trump breaking people's faith in our system was good, from here anyway. Liberals (in the literal sense) obsessing over him in the face of actually responsibly guiding our own way of life was so important and good too. I 've had discussions with wealthy educated people, who totally handwaved away points of actual civic responsibility, because "what about trump".
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Jan 15, 2023 02:02
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Santos' district is primarily Long Island and a bit of Queens right? I don't know if it's the richest district in the country, but it is the richest district in New York state. I think economic conditions were pretty ideal for this kind of "socially liberal, economically conservative" place to flip Red, especially with Lee Zeldin running a gubenatorial campaign built to goose GOP turnout in Long Island. The main "hook" of the race before Santos' lies finally became a big story was that it was a race between 2 openly gay candidates. (Who knows if that sadly caused some Democratic attrition too.) That being said, there was a lot of Democratic complacency here too, as detailed in the Atlantic piece below. I do wonder how good (or bad) of a candidate Zimmerman was. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/12/george-santos-fraud-long-island/672587/
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Jan 15, 2023 02:35
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Fourth highest median income, after two Silicon Valley ones and a Virginia one near DC. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2022/10/21/the-wealthiest-congressional-districts-of-2022/?sh=3635ee436f76
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Jan 15, 2023 04:10
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BRJurgis posted:I 've had discussions with wealthy educated people, who totally handwaved away points of actual civic responsibility, because "what about trump". Can you be more specific?
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Jan 15, 2023 04:53
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:Can you be more specific? Well, sure. Wealthy older people, some in highly educated/specialized professions. I developed a rapport with some complaining about trump during trump. During the primaries and after biden won, though? I had to stop talking to them politically for fear of endangering my job. No, I don't remember what specific complaint or demand I directed at the leaders I voted for, but I'm sure you saw it come up here. Fact is though, I've been told in several different ways that we just can't afford to criticize democrats when TRUMP is waiting in the wings. Hell, not even just by rich clients, back in the primary when I criticized biden (preferring bernie) some aunts absolutely guffawed at the fact I was supporting Trump (?!?!?!?!?) by criticizing Biden. The fact Trump was president is damning of our system and the electorate. Americans' relationship with power is insane and tortured, and Trump's presidency highlighted that.
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Jan 15, 2023 06:23
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Hochul nominated a chud judge and the factional dick measuring contest over it has gotten so intense Lin Manuel Miranda’s dad was brought in to argue for this fucker, and now Hakeem Jeffries https://twitter.com/zackfinknews/status/1614381984599490561?s=46&t=hSJdR5JLiRGj9ay3XNP5Eg NY Dems lol
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Jan 15, 2023 18:20
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Have they provided any reasons for him other than than "Come on guys, please" and "But he's Latino"?
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Jan 15, 2023 18:33
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Gyges posted:Additionally, it's like 50/50 between him intentionally buying cheap knock offs or someone in Trump Org embezzling the difference between lovely real diamond cufflinks and the cost of the cubic zirconia ones. This.
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Jan 15, 2023 18:33
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Thought I remembered a controversy like that a few months back, something about there being a designated short list that was shared with the local GOP and the judge the Dems went with was the least worst option or something. Anyone recall? At this point there really isn't much dirt that Conservatives haven't done so maybe Dems should just stop stanning them already.
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Jan 15, 2023 21:54
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Gyges posted:Have they provided any reasons for him other than than "Come on guys, please" and "But he's Latino"?
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Jan 15, 2023 22:11
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Kavros posted:So is santos ... actually a crazy person? Legitimately mentally ill in some way that we find out about soon? I used to know someone who almost literally lied about everything. The lies were outrageous. They usually were usually about things that were either completely unimportant or obvious and easily disproved. I always assumed some kind of mental issue
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Jan 15, 2023 22:57
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Honest question but does the VP usually have top secret clearance and access to classified documents? And, either way, what the gently caress is going with motherfuckers just stashing them in their storage closets and garages like 15 year old tax returns and unused ping pong tables? Jesus Christ, man, maybe exercise a little bit of care with this poo poo, no? It's not like there's anything violent or unstable going on in the loving world right now or people in other countries who might wish us harm. I know people that have safes in their closets with $500 and a passport in there.
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Jan 15, 2023 23:50
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BiggerBoat posted:Honest question but does the VP usually have top secret clearance and access to classified documents? BiggerBoat posted:And, either way, what the gently caress is going with motherfuckers just stashing them in their storage closets and garages like 15 year old tax returns and unused ping pong tables?
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Jan 15, 2023 23:56
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The VP basically has the same clearance and info and the President, since their whole job is basically being the back up. However, the job of the VP is also largely up to the President, so if they decided the VP should just be sitting in their chair staring at the wall all day, they wouldn't have document access. As for how they're taking home the files, they probably get mixed in with other paperwork. It's 4-10 years of a job that has classified and unclassified documents coming at them all day. While it's crazy for them to accidentally be mixing the top secret Area 51 nuclear invasion plans with their other documents, there's absolute shitloads of less "holy poo poo, keep this secret" stuff that they're touching every day. Then at the end of the 4-10 years, everything gets packed up. The whole thing with classified documents is that there are reasonable and dumbass reasonable reasons for someone to accidentally take them with other paperwork. So the system is set up to encourage people to fix gently caress ups instead of trying to hide them. I'd guess that 3 out of 4 former Presidents(and all the VPs except maybe Pence, who knows what level he was actually allowed in on) actually do have some sort of classified documents hanging out in their personal files. The difference is that that one guy seems to have intentionally taken the "cool" ones he saw, and then was using them to show off like a trophy for clout. All while we side step the issue of massive over classification that goes on in the government. Irrelevant when we're talking about Mr. Nuclear Documents to show to guests, relevant for the other guys.
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Jan 16, 2023 00:09
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A big part of crime is intent. It's what turns manslaughter into homicide.
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Gyges posted:The whole thing with classified documents is that there are reasonable and dumbass reasonable reasons for someone to accidentally take them with other paperwork. So the system is set up to encourage people to fix gently caress ups instead of trying to hide them. To expand on this a bit, even for your average Joe with security clearance it's actually pretty hard to get prosecuted for mishandling. In fact most of the time you won't even lose your clearance... "Govexec posted:For the average security clearance applicant, the question around what will happen if you mishandle classified information is much more straightforward. Handling protected information (Guideline K) is one of the 13 adjudicative guidelines used to deny clearance eligibility, and often comes down to individuals who mishandled classified information. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Jan 16, 2023 |
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"And that's just for Joe Nobody, obviously the government is going to bend over backwards to accommodate a VP and former President, so in other words, you really have to be an enormously stubborn prick about it to get the FBI to kick in your door." drat Donnie must have bought his A game during those "gently caress off and bring a warrent to my lawyers offices." phone calls.
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PhazonLink posted:"And that's just for Joe Nobody, obviously the government is going to bend over backwards to accommodate a VP and former President, so in other words, you really have to be an enormously stubborn prick about it to get the FBI to kick in your door." There is basically no way he didn't throw a screaming temper tantrum at least once during those calls.
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Gyges posted:The VP basically has the same clearance and info and the President, since their whole job is basically being the back up. They have and need no security clearance.
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Jan 16, 2023 05:11
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Reps, Senators, and the Presidents have no clearance. The election is their ”clearance”. The Cabinet has clearances, as do staffers.
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If senators can see everything, that’s how you know ufos aren’t real. Because Tuberville would spill the beans five seconds after hearing about them, or Hawley would start yelling about how the aliens must be exterminated to preserve the glory of the white race.
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I AM GRANDO posted:If senators can see everything, that’s how you know ufos aren’t real. Because Tuberville would spill the beans five seconds after hearing about them, or Hawley would start yelling about how the aliens must be exterminated to preserve the glory of the white race. Well also Trump would've blurted it out too
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Kavros posted:So is santos ... actually a crazy person? Legitimately mentally ill in some way that we find out about soon? He's a pathological liar, but that really doesn't count as mental illness for Republicans anymore as opposed to the normal operating mode of their politicians and people defending them. Hell, he's only lying about a single person!
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Jan 16, 2023 08:46
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Angry_Ed posted:Well also Trump would've blurted it out too Unless that's what THEY want us to think so we don't realize the MIB memory-erasers are real.  
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Jan 16, 2023 09:11
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Gen. Ripper posted:Unless that's what THEY want us to think so we don't realize the MIB memory-erasers are real. 
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https://twitter.com/healthbyjames/status/1614719393312694276?s=20&t=Enn-SbtI-OiWLl6COre5kg So, assuming there's anything to this, all my brain comes to is "Wow, that's going to be more vindication/ammo for the antivax crowds."
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BiggerBoat posted:Honest question but does the VP usually have top secret clearance and access to classified documents? And, either way, what the gently caress is going with motherfuckers just stashing them in their storage closets and garages like 15 year old tax returns and unused ping pong tables? It varies. The VP is usually told a lot of what the president knows so that they're not completely clueless if the president unexpectedly dies, but not necessarily everything. For example, Truman only learned of the Manhattan Project after Roosevelt's death.
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