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Filthy Haiku posted:I've gotten in pretty late on this gen but both VGC and singles look pretty weird. I'm pleased tera didn't get banned though. I got my monkey paw wish of buffs for Galade and Murkrow at least. What's the deal with Murkrow, anyway? I've seen it mentioned a few times that it has a niche in competitive this gen but haven't looked into it further. I assume it's prankster related?
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If a type is strong against something and also resists it, I can just about remember that. If you split it up in weird ways I begin to get lost. So like I can remember that Dark resists Fighting because Fighting is strong against Dark. But Dark is weak to Bug? Really? I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the idea that there are viable bug type attacking moves, and now you're telling me dark types have to watch out for them?
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Jan 16, 2023 22:03
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Eiba posted:If a type is strong against something and also resists it, I can just about remember that. If you split it up in weird ways I begin to get lost. That’s always been the case, yes (and the reason is because of Kamen Rider, I’m not kidding)
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Jan 16, 2023 22:05
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Larryb posted:Dark is strong against (as well as immune to) Psychic and weak to Bug, that’s about all I remember Bug is strong against Dark??? Lmao
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Jan 16, 2023 22:06
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It feels like only in the past couple games have there been good Bug moves right? Like u turn and Bug buzz, I don't remember those from the older games I can remember that Fairy and Fighting beat Dark because it's kinda like "good guys beat bad guys"
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Jan 16, 2023 22:08
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they need to buff grass
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Jan 16, 2023 22:09
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Bug-types started to get something resembling respect from Game Freak in Gen 5.
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Jan 16, 2023 22:10
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precision posted:Bug is strong against Dark??? Lmao https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dark_(type) As I said above, the reason is literally because of the Kamen Rider franchise (bug themed superheroes that fight evil)
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RatHat posted:why goatse was taken Edit: This will generate a pokemon from a name/text. https://replicate.com/lambdal/text-to-pokemon Dienes fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jan 16, 2023 |
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Bug is easy to remember- just imagine gamefreak flipping off your bug typing at all times and you'll have a good idea what your matchups are like. 
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Filthy Haiku posted:Bug is easy to remember- just imagine gamefreak flipping off your bug typing at all times and you'll have a good idea what your matchups are like. To be fair Gen 7 and 9 had some decent Bugs at least (and Butterfee’s still not exactly terrible) but yeah, as far as typings go it’s one of the worst unfortunately Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jan 16, 2023 |
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Jan 16, 2023 22:16
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Game Freaks idea of buffing Bug was "let's make some Electric/Bug types"
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Jan 16, 2023 22:18
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Pouring one out for all the Butterfrees and Butterfree Types that I get early in every game and swear I'll use all game but that end up getting benched around level 20
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Jan 16, 2023 22:19
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precision posted:Game Freaks idea of buffing Bug was "let's make some Electric/Bug types" like it's still a little short of good, but I could see situations where I would ever want to have it on a mon
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Jan 16, 2023 22:25
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I'm almost done with my dex, and just need the 4 legendaries now. I caught the ice one second, and it has a 0 in its speed stat. The thing it's supposed to excel in as a legendary. I legitimately get a cursed trainer ID in every game, I swear.
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Jan 16, 2023 22:28
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precision posted:Hands up if you been playing these games for literally 25 years and you still can't ever remember type matchups other than "fire burns grass" and other obvious ones I remember all of them, with great ease.
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Jan 16, 2023 22:29
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Dienes posted:goatse was taken Great my username looks like the child Kangaskhan is embarrassed about.
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precision posted:Pouring one out for all the Butterfrees and Butterfree Types that I get early in every game and swear I'll use all game but that end up getting benched around level 20 I used Handsome Lad the Ribombee in Gen 7 and then Turbolover the Vivillon in Gen 6 last year beating Ultra Sun and X in full. it was a blast! also idk about anybody else but personally I found that Gen 6 holds up way more than I had expected, esp in the writing dept
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Jan 16, 2023 22:33
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Oh yeah I think I took a Ribombee all the way to the end also. That guy was a real murder machine
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Cattail Prophet posted:What's the deal with Murkrow, anyway? I've seen it mentioned a few times that it has a niche in competitive this gen but haven't looked into it further. I assume it's prankster related? Yeah, Murkrow is currently the best prankster tailwind user- talonflame has gale wings but Murkrow gets priority Haze, which is great right now
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Jan 16, 2023 22:36
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precision posted:It feels like only in the past couple games have there been good Bug moves right? Like u turn and Bug buzz, I don't remember those from the older games Bug Buzz and U-turn have been around since gen 4, so 5 generations ago.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Hey, Leech Life is a legitimate move now that it's 80 BP instead of 20 (and still heals half damage dealt) Leech Life receiving a massive upgrade is one of my favorite developments in terms of Pokemon movesets. I've run my Buzzwole before with both Leech Life and Drain Punch. It's good on Lokix, too. Larryb posted:https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dark_(type) Ironically, the Bug/Dark Lokix is probably the most Kamen Rider-looking Pokemon. I named mine Ishinomori, after the creator of Kamen Rider (and Cyborg 009, and Super Sentai aka that show Power Rangers is adapted from). Hexmage-SA fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jan 16, 2023 |
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Dark is easier to remember when you think of it as the "evil" type that is weak to the "noble" types, like fighting, fairy, and bug. A lot of the non elemental types work on a similar principle, like how psychic is weak to the common fears (dark, bug, ghost)
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Simsmagic posted:Dark is easier to remember when you think of it as the "evil" type that is weak to the "noble" types, like fighting, fairy, and bug. A lot of the non elemental types work on a similar principle, like how psychic is weak to the common fears (dark, bug, ghost) Dark is literally the "evil" type in Japanese. It loses to Fighting (martial arts protags), Bug (Kamen Rider) and Fairy (Sailor Moon).
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Larryb posted:To be fair Gen 7 and 9 had some decent Bugs at least (and Butterfee’s still not exactly terrible) but yeah, as far as typings go it’s one of the worst unfortunately Gens 5+ all have actually good bugs
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Hope I get to see my good friend Venipede again in the DLC.
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Bug types (tied for my favorite) constantly getting hosed over with miserable stat totals is a thing I'm consistently bitter about.
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I miss orbeetle. Stored power iron defense recover body press was so good and funny. Work set up You can drop recover for calm mind to just be a little tank bug
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Cattail Prophet posted:What's the deal with Murkrow, anyway? I've seen it mentioned a few times that it has a niche in competitive this gen but haven't looked into it further. I assume it's prankster related? Prankster Tailwind + Haze. The first part was because Whimsicott was excluded from the dex. However, even if all Pokémon were allowed in, it's the only Prankster Haze user out there, which can easily shut down Dondozo cores. Not only that, it lets Gholdengo spam Make It Rain by getting rid of the stat debuff and other such uses.
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Cattail Prophet posted:What's the deal with Murkrow, anyway? I've seen it mentioned a few times that it has a niche in competitive this gen but haven't looked into it further. I assume it's prankster related? Yeah: Prankster on a Dark/Flying (immunity to ground & psychic is a plus) type means you can get Top Priority Tailwind, Haze, and Taunt off, among others, and Honchkrow loses its H.A. Prankster when it evolves from Murkrow
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Bug types are a casualty of the fact most Pokemon games are designed to be linear RPGs with something resembling linear progression, that just happen to also have a competitive element. Most of them suck because they're designed to suck, they're meant to be early-game power players that fall off. Same reason Dragon is strong, they're supposed to be the late game threats. Now Poison types, they don't have an excuse.
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Cleretic posted:Bug types are a casualty of the fact most Pokemon games are designed to be linear RPGs with something resembling linear progression, that just happen to also have a competitive element. Most of them suck because they're designed to suck, they're meant to be early-game power players that fall off. Same reason Dragon is strong, they're supposed to be the late game threats. This hasn't been true for bug types for over a decade
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precision posted:Hands up if you been playing these games for literally 25 years and you still can't ever remember type matchups other than "fire burns grass" and other obvious ones I can’t figure out Dark-Ghost-Rock generally but I have a pretty good grip of the rest—yes, Fighting is strong against Ice (it’s brittle and fairly easy to punch through), as is Fire (obvious) and Ground
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ice shouldn't resist water, if anything water should resist ice. what happens when you put an ice cube in a glass of room temp water. in a minute you just have a glass of water. WEAK
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:I can’t figure out Dark-Ghost-Rock generally but I have a pretty good grip of the rest—yes, Fighting is strong against Ice (it’s brittle and fairly easy to punch through), as is Fire (obvious) and Ground ground is neutral attacking ice
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HopperUK posted:Great my username looks like the child Kangaskhan is embarrassed about. Lmao: Move over Bronzor, Cryogonal, and Aegislash, here comes Lux Animus!     neat(?) breakaway design:  ^^^ gently caress u unown
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indigi posted:ground is neutral attacking ice oh wait Ground is weak to Ice instead, because it pushes through or whatever. my bad
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Water should be weak to Ice, thanks for coming to my sermon.
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Funky Valentine posted:Water should be weak to Ice, thanks for coming to my sermon. And Freeze Dry should instantly kill Water Types. 
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The one I have to constantly remind myself of consciously is fire resists fairy. Fairy should be weak to fire, too, incidentally. 
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